If you ignore RADIATION it will go away.

sunni

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okay good its good , i live Destination truth, i cant watch it thats why i asked it tell sme not available in my country but its okay cause i have the seasons on dvd
 

Fungus Gnat

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I wonder why they cant cycle the water in the tanks back into the reactors after it cools instead of producing more contaminated water.
 

joe macclennan

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I wonder why they cant cycle the water in the tanks back into the reactors after it cools instead of producing more contaminated water.
they are doing exactly that I believe. The problem as I understand it is that the earthquake cracked some of the concrete containment structure of the reactor and groundwater is leaking in and also out at a rate to great to contain entirely
 

Flaming Pie

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Ok couldn't leave computer lol.

Most people are "out of sight out of mind" folks. Even more intelligent/compassionate people will forget if it is not brought up occasionally.

When you put the statistics into tangible objects in front of the person, they get it.

I have often said "If people could see the carcasses of cats/dogs that are put down yearly in their state at shelters, piled up at a busy intersection or something, they would get their animals spayed."

People don't care until it affects them physically, emotionally, or monetarily.
 

Flaming Pie

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they are doing exactly that I believe. The problem as I understand it is that the earthquake cracked some of the concrete containment structure of the reactor and groundwater is leaking in and also out at a rate to great to contain entirely
To me it sounded like they were having to pump fresh water in and store the contaminated water.
 

sunni

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Ok couldn't leave computer lol.

Most people are "out of sight out of mind" folks. Even more intelligent/compassionate people will forget if it is not brought up occasionally.

When you put the statistics into tangible objects in front of the person, they get it.

I have often said "If people could see the carcasses of cats/dogs that are put down yearly in their state at shelters, piled up at a busy intersection or something, they would get their animals spayed."

People don't care until it affects them physically, emotionally, or monetarily.
you could say the same for slaughter animals as well?
bet you would say NO i love my meat!

lol
 

Fungus Gnat

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they are doing exactly that I believe. The problem as I understand it is that the earthquake cracked some of the concrete containment structure of the reactor and groundwater is leaking in and also out at a rate to great to contain entirely
Guess I should cut back on the seafood linguine.
 

joe macclennan

Well-Known Member
Ok couldn't leave computer lol.

Most people are "out of sight out of mind" folks. Even more intelligent/compassionate people will forget if it is not brought up occasionally.

When you put the statistics into tangible objects in front of the person, they get it.

I have often said "If people could see the carcasses of cats/dogs that are put down yearly in their state at shelters, piled up at a busy intersection or something, they would get their animals spayed."

People don't care until it affects them physically, emotionally, or monetarily.
all of our animals are spayed or neutered.
 

Fungus Gnat

Well-Known Member
Ok couldn't leave computer lol.

Most people are "out of sight out of mind" folks. Even more intelligent/compassionate people will forget if it is not brought up occasionally.

When you put the statistics into tangible objects in front of the person, they get it.

I have often said "If people could see the carcasses of cats/dogs that are put down yearly in their state at shelters, piled up at a busy intersection or something, they would get their animals spayed."

People don't care until it affects them physically, emotionally, or monetarily.
dont worry they will be able to tell that your child was born after the meltdown just by the isotopes in their teeth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_Tooth_Survey
 

joe macclennan

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you could say the same for slaughter animals as well?
bet you would say NO i love my meat!

lol
I've been in the cooler of my butcher. Doesn't bother me a bit. I have skinned and cleaned many animals. Tasty creatures really.

My beef normally is castrated anyway.

I love my steer! lol
 

Dr Kynes

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All the more reason the world should be researching and helping them come up with possible solutions.

BUT OH WAIT...

It's ok guys, the majority of the radiation is just gonna chill in the middle of the pacific ocean for a while. Resume normal activity.
what do you propose we do?

tell ya what, you go out to the ocean with a Silly Straw and start sucking out the poison, ill be there in a minute... i cannot find my Flip Flops
 

Flaming Pie

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what do you propose we do?

tell ya what, you go out to the ocean with a Silly Straw and start sucking out the poison, ill be there in a minute... i cannot find my Flip Flops
I understand once it is in the ocean it is damn near impossible to fix.

I am concerned about the stuff STILL LEAKING from the tanks. That should be something that a top scientists and engineers should be able to work out and fix.

Have a meeting with top minds and think on it for a week. Throw some money out for a solution.

Fuck if Obama can get a nobel peace prize for being the first black pres, why can't we throw money and medels at who ever solves this debaucle?
 

Flaming Pie

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I had just read some news articles that were basically saying "oh its ok, no need to panic. It will be two years before it hits our shores."

The articles talking about TEMPCO trying to clean up their mess (and doing a horrible job) has no mention of foreign aid.

We send millions of dollars in weapons to countries all over the globe, yet we have noone sending help to contain radioactive waste leaking into the ocean?

WTF?
 

echelon1k1

New Member
You have the same plants in the US and they're almost identical to the Fukushima Plants, all a GE Design. People have expressed concerns about the Mark 1 design and have done so for decades and the response from stakeholders and regulators was always somewhat blasé until the Fukushima disaster - which has proven the plants cannot stand up to any type of natural disaster etc.. Majority of US reactors are over 30 years old and were operational during the period when the AEC replaced the NRC. It was in late '70s/early '80s when regulators realised there were major problems with the design especially in regards to venting and it would seem nothing has been done since...

Former Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) Chairman Gregory Jaczko says that the current fleet of operating plants in the US should be phased out because regulators can't guarantee against an accident causing widespread land contamination. In two key decisions last week Jaczko said the agency "damaged significantly" its international reputation for upholding safety and he accused the five commissioners of "just rolling the dice" in dealing with severe accidents.
 

echelon1k1

New Member
^

All the more reason to figure out how to stop leakages in event of a catastrophe.
That may be hard considering the NRC operates in more of a political rather than regulatory manner. Industry has too much say and influence on how the commission operates and how it elects its commissioners - this is concerning when they are supposed to regulate said industry.

Plant Vogtle nuclear expansion approved 4-1

By Kristi E. Swartz

It’s official: Georgia will be the site of the nation’s first new nuclear reactors in more than 30 years.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission’s on Thursday approved Southern Co.’s plan to build two reactors at Plant Vogtle, south of Augusta -- though the decision was not without dissent.

Gregory Jaczko, chairman of the five-member NRC, cast a lone vote against issuing a license for the project. He said he wanted but had not gotten a binding commitment from Southern that it would incorporate changes stemming from last year’s nuclear disaster in Japan.

“Significant safety enhancements have already been recommended as a result of learning the lessons from Fukushima,” Jaczko said, referring to the plant on Japan’s coast that was devastated by an earthquake and tidal wave, “and there is still more work ahead of us. Knowing this, I cannot support issuing these licenses as if Fukushima never happened.”
There's also a report entitled "Regulatory Meltdown: How Four Nuclear Regulatory Commissioners Conspired to Delay and Weaken Nuclear Reactor Safety in the Wake of Fukushima" by congressman markey's (D-MA) office.

Major findings of the report were;

◾Four NRC Commissioners attempted to delay and otherwise impede the creation of the NRC Near-Term Task Force on Fukushima;
◾Four NRC Commissioners conspired, with each other and with senior NRC staff, to delay the release of and alter the NRC Near-Term Task Force report on Fukushima;
◾The other NRC Commissioners attempted to slow down or otherwise impede the adoption of the safety recommendations made by the NRC Near-Term Task Force on Fukushima ….
◾The consideration of the Fukushima safety upgrades is not the only safety-related issue that the other NRC Commissioners have opposed.
 
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