bgmike8
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Idk. I will post pics tonight my friend. Hopefully I can chop tomorrow.
I think it's time
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good ol boy
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Best of luck my friend as well
bgmike8
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UPDATE.
Here are some pics from tonight.
When I checked them a lot had fallen over. Some were laying against tent flattening out.
I'll would love to hear your opinions however Im worried about mold with them always falling into each other.
All the leaves are yellow and dry. Pretty sure I'm light burning them.
There is nowhere to go with them. I'm overgrown.
I really think it's the right time for me to chop before I kill the fuckers.....
Hold on for some bud pics
Here are some pics from tonight.
When I checked them a lot had fallen over. Some were laying against tent flattening out.
I'll would love to hear your opinions however Im worried about mold with them always falling into each other.
All the leaves are yellow and dry. Pretty sure I'm light burning them.
There is nowhere to go with them. I'm overgrown.
I really think it's the right time for me to chop before I kill the fuckers.....
Hold on for some bud pics
racerboy71
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i personally still don't think they're quite ready, but pretty close.. they look great though..
bgmike8
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good ol boy
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Enjoy my friend
rob333
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man i have left one plant unflushed just to try it out i will let u no after a cure to let u no what i think ill post some pics shortley
rob333
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so ill leave the darker green one the gdp un flushed and will pull in 2 more weeks the other 2 my strain mango kushXgdp i will flush as normal and see what we think
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Douglas.Curtis
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Same here, wait till at least 5% amber, otherwise it will reduce how long the effects of it last.
Very nice looking plants.
Keep the airflow up.Douglas
Douglas.Curtis
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FWIW, if you mess up plants with how you feed them, flushing won't seem to make a difference. At no time in flower should chopped and dried bud sparkle or burn to a black ash. You get either of those and it's a clear sign your nutrient mix is off or too rich.
When plants are fed a balanced feed and never overfed, reducing the strength of the solution in the root zone will pull excess nutrients from the sap of the plant. Look up Osmosis. Easy to do in hydro, I simply dump the res for the first time since I mixed it up for flower and change it out for clean r/o, 5 days before harvest.
My fresh dried cannabis is smooth and tasty, the cure just makes things more complex and fabulous.
Douglas
When plants are fed a balanced feed and never overfed, reducing the strength of the solution in the root zone will pull excess nutrients from the sap of the plant. Look up Osmosis.
Easy to do in hydro, I simply dump the res for the first time since I mixed it up for flower and change it out for clean r/o, 5 days before harvest. My fresh dried cannabis is smooth and tasty, the cure just makes things more complex and fabulous.
Douglas
Dr. Who
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This is absolute nonsense!FWIW, if you mess up plants with how you feed them, flushing won't seem to make a difference. At no time in flower should chopped and dried bud sparkle or burn to a black ash. You get either of those and it's a clear sign your nutrient mix is off or too rich.
When plants are fed a balanced feed and never overfed, reducing the strength of the solution in the root zone will pull excess nutrients from the sap of the plant. Look up Osmosis.
My fresh dried cannabis is smooth and tasty, the cure just makes things more complex and fabulous.
Douglas
The nutrients you're trying to reduce by "osmosis" are immobile nutrients for one thing. The main thing is that NO nutrients move from the plant BACK OUT the roots to what ever media your in. That includes HYDRO!
Scientific FACT!
https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/
@rob333
Be sure you do a full term, and proper cure!
Douglas.Curtis
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No nutrients move from 'locked in areas' of the plant CORRECT. I've actually spent quite some time trying to hammer this in to people's heads. Significant, when you're wanting to grow "CLEAN" cannabis.
However, nutrients definitely come back out of the moving sap in the plant.
You can believe what you like, I'm familiar with osmosis and when I put plain r/o in my res, the ppm is backup to around 400 within 5 days. Those nutes are not coming from thin air or my hydro system, they're coming from the plants themselves.
I'm also SIGNIFICANTLY more sensitive to taste, feel and smell than most people, there is indeed a difference between flushed and unflushed cannabis. Not soil drowned, flushed as in the way I explained in hydro.
I've learned not to listen to what people with low sensitivity say about flushed/unflushed cannabis. 25% of you have very few taste buds, 50% of you have an average number of taste buds, 25% of you have significant taste buds, I'm in the top 2% of the upper 25% of people with heightened senses. Life is extremely irritating, I assure you.
Douglas
Dr. Who
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Mmmm, Sorry about what you consider as a problem. Many with that, turn it into a positive by turning it into a job or a college research carrier. I know several personally that make VERY SERIOUS money as tasters for Food and beverage companies development programs. Not to mention others that make sure the Lot to Lot consistency of ingredients are with in spec.
BUT
In the case of your ppm change - that's NOT nutrients coming back OUT of the plant....It's waste material, some of which is root material shed off as it age's - kinda like your skin. The rest is best explained as materials that work with living bacteria and fungus that are present in the soil and on the roots that serve as feed for those living bio's and components that are used to convert things into being able to BE utilized by the plant FOR growth. Other amounts are actual things needed BY the bio's TO convert other materials to become usable by the plant!
It would seem that you do not understand plant physiology in a botanical sense. Plants take things in and put other things back out! Those things on the way out - No matter WHAT you do - are NOT nutrients usable by the plant. SCIENCE AND NATURE FACT! Same with your misconception that you can "pull" nutrients back out of a plant through the roots by your method.
With all due respect for your condition. It does not change science!
Science also has found that the mind plays all sorts of tricks on you! If you believe something to be a "truth or a rule". Then things are found to BE that way by the mind. Even when they are not!
If you are given several things to taste and asked to record what you think of the difference between them. You will find one and record those down,,,,,,EVEN when each of the things tested, are exactly the same thing!
I believe your preconceived notion has effect too!
I have to ask. How do YOU dry and cure?
This has FAR more influence over ANY taste and burn then ANY form of "flush".
Doc
thewanderingjack
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Not having read all the things... here's my Opinion:
I'm in a similar situation: overgrown, lots of crowding. With my humidity... I already got a tiny bit of mold on spots that were against the wall (unnoticed) or a day or two... I've been pushing mine (6 weeks veg, at end of 5 of flower). Mine are not so big or mature as you, but lacking other buds, I've been grazing on them and been happily surprised with the potency and quality of even these immature, quick dried no cure buds.... I know it will only get better if I wait... but I am impatient, need buds, and have that problem...
So my plan, and suggestion:
Chop down as few of your plants as will make enough room for the rest.
I just moved two of mine out of the cab to a crawl space, and plan to chop them soon... thus letting the others develop better to completion.
I'm in a similar situation: overgrown, lots of crowding. With my humidity... I already got a tiny bit of mold on spots that were against the wall (unnoticed) or a day or two... I've been pushing mine (6 weeks veg, at end of 5 of flower). Mine are not so big or mature as you, but lacking other buds, I've been grazing on them and been happily surprised with the potency and quality of even these immature, quick dried no cure buds.... I know it will only get better if I wait... but I am impatient, need buds, and have that problem...
So my plan, and suggestion:
Chop down as few of your plants as will make enough room for the rest.
I just moved two of mine out of the cab to a crawl space, and plan to chop them soon... thus letting the others develop better to completion
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Douglas.Curtis
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Thought about that a few times, willing to consider it if the position is away from population.
BUT
I'm going to stop you right there, I've heard this bs before and it's garbage for hydro. Were this the case, I would be unable to run a hydro res for 4 months without dumping or some kind of 'waste' buildup. It just doesn't happen, at least not in my reservoirs.
There's a lot of b.s. in the cannabis world and the "your plants are shedding toxins and *whatever* into the water" is pretty old bs.
I find the dry and cure to be significantly more important, to growers who aren't fully aware of the delicacies of cannabis yet. When cannabis is grown cleanly, this process is much less touchy. First of all, my cannabis burns soft, cool, deliciously and with amazing aroma, zero harsh, when it's simply dried.
Putting it in a jar at 55% and tucking it away for a few months adds additional layers of complexity.
Purely a delight.
Why? What's your freshly dried cannabis smoke like?
Douglas.Curtis
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Excellent question, I too would like to know.
I have a bunch of photos to take the next few months.
bgmike8
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I bought a cheap microscope from ebay. About twenty bucks. It hooks into a laptop or pc and you take the pics from there. I think video too.Excellent question, I too would like to know.
Just look up digital microscope on ebay.
Mine has 5 led lights on the end. Comes with little stand.
Douglas.Curtis
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Awesome
Appreciate the info.