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sashimigrade

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I really don't mean to troll, flame, or start any cliche arguments but I've been noticing something while lurking on this site for about a year or so. So many of the pictures I see here (and I love looking at pot porn), are indoor soil grows. I'm on my second grow in about 15 years so I'm a total rookie, but both times I've decided to go soilless. I've read that soil gives slightly better results but soilless is a little quicker and easier, I don't know. I know everyone's mileage differs on everything.

I guess I'm wondering, is soilless going out of style so to speak. In no way do I mean to offend the soilless guys here. I'm one of them. It just seems like I see indoor soil grow pics about 80% of the time on this site. Maybe it's just me or a coincidence or something. I thought it would be closer to 50/50 or even slightly more soilless. Again, I'm not trying to start an argument about which is better, I'm just curious why I see so much dirt indoors on this site. Maybe it's an unanswerable question. Any thoughts?
 
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fisk

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dirt is easier then soilless for most I think thats the main reason that and some people like it more I for one don't care for soil I'm currently doing my first hempy grow and love it and I have done dwc in the past as well
 
Serapis

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homebrewer said:
I use sunshine mix #4 and it's 'soilless'. Do you mean dirt vs hydro?
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I'm sure he does. I grow both. My Mom plant is in soil, everything else from clones to adults are aero or hydro. I think that most people start off growing in soil, or a soil like medium, because of it's perceived ease over hydroponics. There are several different types of hydroponic methods that can be utilized, and that may intimidate some newer growers. Hydroponic growing also has a bit of a steeper learning curve; convincing many to grow in soil.

I love my Waterfarms. I'm new to aero, but I like it as well. It has given me my first 100% success rate with rooting cuttings. Next on my list is DWC, so I can go from rooting, to growing clones quickly.
 
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sashimigrade

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homebrewer said:
I use sunshine mix #4 and it's 'soilless'. Do you mean dirt vs hydro?
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I guess my terminology was wrong. I always thought you could do hydroponics with dirt or with soilless mediums. To me "hydro" always meant indoors with a certain type of irrigation regardless of the growing medium, but I see now that I was mistaken.
 
Carne Seca

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sashimigrade said:
I really don't mean to troll, flame, or start any cliche arguments but I've been noticing something while lurking on this site for about a year or so. So many of the pictures I see here (and I love looking at pot porn), are indoor soil grows. I'm on my second grow in about 15 years so I'm a total rookie, but both times I've decided to go soilless. I've read that soil gives slightly better results but soilless is a little quicker and easier, I don't know. I know everyone's mileage differs on everything.

I guess I'm wondering, is soilless going out of style so to speak. In no way do I mean to offend the soilless guys here. I'm one of them. It just seems like I see indoor soil grow pics about 80% of the time on this site. Maybe it's just me or a coincidence or something. I thought it would be closer to 50/50 or even slightly more soilless. Again, I'm not trying to start an argument about which is better, I'm just curious why I see so much dirt indoors on this site. Maybe it's an unanswerable question. Any thoughts?
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We're lazy. ;)
 
jesus of Cannabis

jesus of Cannabis

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sashimigrade said:
I I always thought you could do hydroponics with dirt or with soilless mediums. To me "hydro" always meant indoors with a certain type of irrigation
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apples and oranges and there are all kinds of hydro and hybrid hydro/dirt with drip systems on the soil with the plant, thats still hydro because you are forcing the water to move.
 
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sashimigrade

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Serapis said:
I'm sure he does. I grow both. My Mom plant is in soil, everything else from clones to adults are aero or hydro. I think that most people start off growing in soil, or a soil like medium, because of it's perceived ease over hydroponics. There are several different types of hydroponic methods that can be utilized, and that may intimidate some newer growers. Hydroponic growing also has a bit of a steeper learning curve; convincing many to grow in soil.

I love my Waterfarms. I'm new to aero, but I like it as well. It has given me my first 100% success rate with rooting cuttings. Next on my list is DWC, so I can go from rooting, to growing clones quickly.
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I started with a top drip hydro years ago and failed. I'm trying it again and may try an ebb and flow for my flowering room but we'll see. A lot of cool options out there.
 
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sashimigrade

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jesus of Cannabis said:
apples and oranges and there are all kinds of hydro and hybrid hydro/dirt with drip systems on the soil with the plant, thats still hydro because you are forcing the water to move.
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Yea, this is what I was confused on. If you're forcing water it's hydro to me. You could have soil pots with a top drip or rockwool in an ebb and flow. To me their both "hydro", one is soil and one is soilless.
 
Serapis

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I'm not so sure I buy that definition.... lol.... you'll have a lot of DWC peeps agreeing with me too. technically, the water is just sitting there.... I think hydro is any technique that involves using water instead of soil, or has water and nutrients run through it's medium in cycles. That should cover everyone. :)
 
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I personnaly prefer Hydroponics over soil any day. I have always had problems with soil. with hydro i feel like it is much easier to control exactly what my plants roots are getting. to me its much easier to test, mix, setup and maintain. If my plants develope some sort of nutrient problem I flush my res and fill with new and the problem has always gone away.... never had that luck in dirt.
 
homebrewer

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sashimigrade said:
I guess my terminology was wrong. I always thought you could do hydroponics with dirt or with soilless mediums. To me "hydro" always meant indoors with a certain type of irrigation regardless of the growing medium, but I see now that I was mistaken.
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Personally, I think there are 3 types of growing methods per se; dirt (soil and peat based mediums included), coco, and hydro (usually defined by a combination of pumps, trays or gutters, and a reservoir). Each have their merits but to me it seems like coco is more popular these days than years ago. To each their own :).
 
hughesresearch

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to me you have soil or you dont. simple. i use dwc but have been trying to make a aero setup where my sprayer stops getting clogged.
 
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sashimigrade

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absolute0 said:
I personnaly prefer Hydroponics over soil any day. I have always had problems with soil. with hydro i feel like it is much easier to control exactly what my plants roots are getting. to me its much easier to test, mix, setup and maintain. If my plants develope some sort of nutrient problem I flush my res and fill with new and the problem has always gone away.... never had that luck in dirt.
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I've never tried dirt but I agree with this. It seems to hard to know what's in the dirt at any given point in time. I guess there are meters but the hydro is more of a direct control and easier to me. Maybe I'll change my mind in the future, I don't know. It also seems popular convention that soil grows have better flavor and smoke better. I'm sure people are 50/50 on this though.
 
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sashimigrade

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Serapis said:
I'm not so sure I buy that definition.... lol.... you'll have a lot of DWC peeps agreeing with me too. technically, the water is just sitting there.... I think hydro is any technique that involves using water instead of soil, or has water and nutrients run through it's medium in cycles. That should cover everyone. :)
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I agree with this. It's the definition.
 
DrFever

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I like soil find it more forgiving but once you got a nutes dialed in and schedule and knowing the amounts its simple an sweet IMO you need alot of room for hydro and the yields not sure if they will compare where as a bigger plant should in definition in soil produce a bigger yield where as in hydro the plants are alot smaller i would think thus giving you a lower yield dont Quote me on that
 
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DrFever said:
I like soil find it more forgiving but once you got a nutes dialed in and schedule and knowing the amounts its simple an sweet IMO you need alot of room for hydro and the yields not sure if they will compare where as a bigger plant should in definition in soil produce a bigger yield where as in hydro the plants are alot smaller i would think thus giving you a lower yield dont Quote me on that
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Im actually doing a side by side of DWC "against" soil. I CAN say that the bubble bucket IS kicking ass in the vigorous growth area. But I will always be a dirt grower.... its so simple the only draw back is getting rid of the soil.... i live in an apartment so its a bitch to pitch the soil.
 
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