how to use molasses? ??

OGbctonez said:

I'd rather Juice an organic granny smith apple and dilute it in a gallon of water.

marijuana is a complex plant, apple is a complex sugar.

molasses is a simple sugar.

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I'm sorry, but I don't think your analogy is very relevant (and your facts are wrong to begin with). Human beings are pretty damn complex and basically run on glucose, a (the) simple(st) sugar. And apples, they contain mostly fructose, which is also a simple sugar. Plants aren't my area, but I am a biochemist, and I would bet they have a mechanism similar to pretty much every other organism for breaking down complex sugars into simpler ones to be used for energy (or taking advantage of symbiotic organisms in the soil that can).

Molasses isn't just used as a carbon source. It's a chelating agent, it takes up minerals and either delivers them to the plant as it's taken up through the roots or takes them with it as it's flushed from the soil, reducing buildup in the soil.

All that said, I've never used it, but I'm giving it serious consideration as I've recently relocated to a region with very soft water and I think I'm running into Ca &/or Mg deficiencies in my grow.

Cheers,

SL

for the past two years of my growing i have using grandmas blackstrap molasses from week one to week 7 feeding 1 tbsp with every food feeing never had a problem with funi,bacteria,or stinky soil its all how you feed your plants

so its ok to use molasses in veg stage? or just flower stage since thats when sugars are used the most

use .5 tablespoons vegging and 1-2 tbsp flowering

alright that works for me. I figured since its a chelate it would be ok to use. just wanted to make sure so I dont mess up the ladies

mrshym84 said:

can you use molasses all the way till you cut her down or should you stop using it 2 weeks before like the nutrients?

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why yes you can.....i am currently in my 1st week of flowering in which from the day i began 18/6 i fed with molasses ....works fine, just have to know how much to apply

I"m beginning to think that molasses doesn't make that big of a difference, maybe in small doses but definitely not in large...

too much sugar inbalances the soil's eco-system. it's not like your buds are built up of sugar, they're built up of NUTRIENTS.

sure the bacteria eat sugar, but they also eat organic matter as well, sugar is not their primary diet. so if you do choose to use molasses I think it would be wise to use sparingly.

Ice been using catalyst by earth juice for a few grows now and it's amazing.
It had some goodies such as oat bran, sea kelp, Wheat malt
And molasses of course.

Could you use Molasses during the Veg cycle? Will it benefit as much, or more?

mwine87 said:

Could you use Molasses during the Veg cycle? Will it benefit as much, or more?

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5 posts above yours...you have the answer

"use .5 tablespoons vegging and 1-2 tbsp flowering "

poplars said:

I"m beginning to think that molasses doesn't make that big of a difference, maybe in small doses but definitely not in large...

too much sugar inbalances the soil's eco-system. it's not like your buds are built up of sugar, they're built up of NUTRIENTS.

sure the bacteria eat sugar, but they also eat organic matter as well, sugar is not their primary diet. so if you do choose to use molasses I think it would be wise to use sparingly.

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I keep trying to tell you all that sugar is not the main reason for using molasses. It has much needed micro-nutrients and is a wonderful chelating agent. No one said sugar was the primary diet of cannabis. Molasses boosts your soil and breaks down nutrients for your plant to utilize or is flushed out of the soil so you don't have build up issues. The enzymes and bacteria love molasses which in turn your plant loves. You will notice bigger tighter buds and much healthier plants.

I use molasses throughout my grow.

I have only used molasses when I brew worm casting tea. I brew 5 gall at a time using 1 tblspn per gallon it gives the micorbes in the brew food to eat until you use it. Make sure to use within 48 hours and bubble the water to oxegenate otherwise the tea will go anaerobic.

Oh when using molasses be sure it is the sulphur free brand. Check the bottle it usually states it on the label

Can True natural HONEY (from bees handmade no additives) be used? is it like a molasses or is that diffirent again? I have homboldt honey es that i use occasionally but was wondering if i were to use honey if i would get the same effects as using that or molasses?

LostintheWoods said:

Can True natural HONEY (from bees handmade no additives) be used? is it like a molasses or is that diffirent again? I have homboldt honey es that i use occasionally but was wondering if i were to use honey if i would get the same effects as using that or molasses?

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I would stick to molasses rather than honey.

Carne Seca said:

I keep trying to tell you all that sugar is not the main reason for using molasses. It has much needed micro-nutrients and is a wonderful chelating agent. No one said sugar was the primary diet of cannabis. Molasses boosts your soil and breaks down nutrients for your plant to utilize or is flushed out of the soil so you don't have build up issues. The enzymes and bacteria love molasses which in turn your plant loves. You will notice bigger tighter buds and much healthier plants.

I use molasses throughout my grow.

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no offense but those plants don't look very balanced nutrient wise... so I'm not really likely to take your opinion seriously over someone like FDD who doesn't use molasses at all and gets massive dank ass buds that look to have no deficiencies whatsoever.

and the main reason I'm against using molasses a LOT is because I've literally noticed it burn up the nitrogen supplies and cause my plants to take back from their fan leaves far more than they needed to. this is not balanced.

poplars said:

no offense but those plants don't look very balanced nutrient wise... so I'm not really likely to take your opinion seriously over someone like FDD who doesn't use molasses at all and gets massive dank ass buds that look to have no deficiencies whatsoever.

and the main reason I'm against using molasses a LOT is because I've literally noticed it burn up the nitrogen supplies and cause my plants to take back from their fan leaves far more than they needed to. this is not balanced.

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it helps them use the nutrients, if thats what you mean by burn them up. They dont just disapear into thin air.... so add more veg nutes with high N to replenish the soil. I think using more nutrients is always a good thing as long as the plant soaks them up, and they are organic or organic based (I use FF)

rocknratm said:

it helps them use the nutrients, if thats what you mean by burn them up. They dont just disapear into thin air.... so add more veg nutes with high N to replenish the soil. I think using more nutrients is always a good thing as long as the plant soaks them up, and they are organic or organic based (I use FF)

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well shit I guess I should have bought more veg nutes. oh well.


next year I'm planning on using age old nutrients and their bloom is 5-10-5, pretty sure that has enough N to be used with a little molasses.

Nullis said:

Ironically your apple has mostly fructose and glucose... two monosaccharides, the simplest of sugars. Sucrose is a disaccharide and that is what blackstrap molasses contains. But also significant amounts of minerals and potassium.

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Good shout and good post. Respect bro !