how to make full dense buds?

Sativa G

Sativa G

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the shooting powder is good stuff and it works..but if ganics is your game, use that healthy micro-herd to your advantage and go with a natural booster. :-)
 
dnkfrmthasoilz7

dnkfrmthasoilz7

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I have to respectfully disagree with black thumb if you treat a naturally dense strain with poor lighting it won't be very dense, if you give a fluffy strain the optimal lighting conditions it will do better than it would without.
 
Spanishfly

Spanishfly

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dnkfrmthasoilz7 said:
I have to respectfully disagree with black thumb if you treat a naturally dense strain with poor lighting it won't be very dense, if you give a fluffy strain the optimal lighting conditions it will do better than it would without.
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Yes, put them under the sun for dense buds.
 
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Dankster12

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lots of light and Co2. If you run co2 at 1500 ppm, and blast the light to em' your going to have some pretty bulging rock solid tomatoes. However if your nutes, strain, and room conditions are not on point, adding Co2 and more light is just going to cause you more problems. co2 also increases your plants ability to deal with heat stress, letting you get up to around 90 at most, without having to panic too much.
 
Heads Up

Heads Up

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Light is the plants food, everything else is supplemental. I'm not saying don't use nutes, I use them myself. Are you using 15-30-15 for vegging? If you are using them for flowering that's fine, you don't really need 10-52-10 for flowering, your plants will never use that much phosphorous. All those bud snake oil blossom boosters, really aren't needed. I use gravity, that's it. For flowering nutes I use 10-30-20, for vegging, 9-3-6. As far as molasses, it's good for your soil and the microbes, anything more is questionable at best.

Super2200 is right on the money as far as I'm concerned.
 
Bosejammin

Bosejammin

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super2200 said:
Currently HID lighting is the best to use for biggest yields, nothing is going to help more than vegging for longer periods so you have a bigger mature plant going into the flower cycle. If you are not vegging for at least 5 weeks and doing more than one transplant then you will not get much yield no matter what the strain is because the plant was not mature in less than 4 weeks and if your transplanting from a cup right into a 5 gallon bucket your plants rootball is weak and non existant. There is a major difference between someone who lets a plant get almost rootbound (shape of a rootball) and then transplants into a bit larger allowing the plant to again get almost rootbound (mine take 2 weeks per pot to rootbound aprox) if you just stick a plant from a cup to a huge container the roots go directly down and directly sideways like branches yes there is nothing at all inside this 5 gallon bucket like there would be if there was a softball sized rootball that was put into a bigger to become a bigger rootball and so and and so forth. Veg for longer periods and get the bigger lighting 600w I believe puts out 90,000 lumens anything less is toying around and why ask how to do it if your sitting there with some CFL bulbs and light leaks. Good luck and go with the flow, only you will know what works best in your enviornment by trial and errror and these are just some tips. Smoke on ......
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I'm appeciating that response. I'm growing first time and bottom line if you talk to the guys that are in this deep, you need the hid's....others aren't there yet...hey, I have a MH HPS switchable 400 w air cooled so if im vent it out with a 435 cc inline fan, I can get the light literally 10 inches over the plants...plenty for my size...I'm in a 3x3x6 tent with a bubbleponics 6 planter, total size on that is around 27"....do you agree thew 400 is enough for 6 fairly mature longer vegging plants to yield big and dense? Considering distance and other optimal environment controls in place?
 
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kimber45acp

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Bosejammin said:
I'm appeciating that response. I'm growing first time and bottom line if you talk to the guys that are in this deep, you need the hid's....others aren't there yet...hey, I have a MH HPS switchable 400 w air cooled so if im vent it out with a 435 cc inline fan, I can get the light literally 10 inches over the plants...plenty for my size...I'm in a 3x3x6 tent with a bubbleponics 6 planter, total size on that is around 27"....do you agree thew 400 is enough for 6 fairly mature longer vegging plants to yield big and dense? Considering distance and other optimal environment controls in place?
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You'd be surprised what 400 watts can do. I'm currently doing 11 plants under 430 watts. Two of my plants were vegged for 4 weeks but I topped and pruned it since it bushy as hell. The other 9 plants were clones which only vegged for about a week. I'm not sure how much I will yield yet but it's looking pretty good so far. So, yes I do think 400 watts is enough as long as everything else is in place.
I supercropped all my plants at one point or another and I pruned all the plants to increase cola production. Almost all the plants were also topped as well to get additional bud sites. I will add that I do use CO2 as well. I also have two shop lights for supplemental lighting with 42 watt cfl's to light up any dark areas.
 
icecold 40

icecold 40

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i used gravity on my last grow & it didnt work,my buds were as light as hell,gonna try it a week or 2 more then they call for & add molasses to& btw tnx for the molasses tip!
 
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