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How to let the athiest know our God is real

Discussion in 'Spirituality & Sexuality & Philosophy' started by weedhead24, Aug 7, 2017.


    bizarrojohnson Well-Known Member

    I agree with ya dude it's hard to explain to people. I don't bother mostly, people are so brainwashed nowadays they can barely see their hand in front of their face.
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    bizarrojohnson Well-Known Member

    Except maybe the whole this is paradise thing.......one of those things that's hard to reason. Like how can this be paradise? Bc of its potential? Yes we have the potential to be in paradise. But we ruin it by letting ourselves be controlled and used. I also kind of agree about nothing being important. At the end of the day nothing is really more or less important than anything else. It's all fleeting, everything is just moment, a simple effect of the Big Bang. Still unwinding and expanding, I pretty much just envision the universe as a chemical reaction. Something that happened and will eventually end and even tho it seems like an eternity to us it's really just a blink of eye.

    So pretty much either perfection does not exist or everything is perfect. There is no in between, how can something have "flaws" if it's exactly as it was meant to be? I wish we a people would stop throwing rocks and trying to trying to take all the sand in the sandbox for ourselves and realize that all the things we stress ourselves out over on a daily basis don't mean shit. We suffer for nothing.

    I'm guilty of stressing over things that I shouldn't. But I'm trying to transcend this madness.

    Ps: it's difficult trying to explain things with this point of view. Bc either everything matters or nothing matters. Bc everything is connected, we all have the same origin. We just choose what to care about.
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    bizarrojohnson Well-Known Member

    Just my opinion......

    bizarrojohnson Well-Known Member

    I agree with this. I don't believe in Christianity or any other religions view of god but I do believe in a "higher" power. Something that is so far out of our scope of reality that we can't comprehend it. I don't believe in some petty tyrant in the clouds. The god is described in the Bible does not sound like a "god" to me or a..... Since my definition of a god is different than most peoples I will use a different placeholder for my definition which will be "demi-god" so this will be less confusing. I will be using everyone else's definition for the rest of this post.

    So the god in the Bible and most other religions sound like the pettiness of man to me. No god would care for such pettiness as being worshipped. Sounds like they are trying to make us worship a demon to me.

    In my own opinion religion is nothing but a tool for control the masses.

    Heaven or Hell.......this is heaven and hell you can't exist in only one. Shadows are created from light and there is always a light on the darkness. There is no yin without yang.

    I also don't really believe in death, just transformation. We humans are made up of a bunch of things. A bunch of things that are found on this planet. A bunch of things that we can write down on paper and say this is what you are made of. Except for what's in the mind.....that which controls our bodies..... pretty much everything that existed when the Big Bang happened is stil here. There is no more of less matter in the universe.

    I think the same applies to our souls. Which I simply refer to as "life energy". And energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
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    New Age United Well-Known Member

    And by Paradise I am referring to the beauty and serenity of the earth and the heavens. I realize that is subjective. If you want to transcend suffering I would highly recommend the book " A New Earth " by Eckhart Tolle. Very wise man well worth the $ 15.

    Heisenberg Well-Known Member

    A.K.A. Overgrowem

    A.K.A. Overgrowem Well-Known Member

    The first evidence of a "BELIEF" The Bird Man Cult, seems to track on a sorta, kinda, parallel path to your thinking on a basic level, I do not know what big brains have written/researched it, Dr.Joseph Campbell mentions it in his original lecture series. Could be enough info around to be interesting. You might check it out.
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