Homemade Stealth Cabinet- Lots of pics!

EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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SensiStan said:
I cant wait to see what springs up :D theres loads of really good stuff out there. heres something i think you'll thank me for go to http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Cannabis-Grand-Video-Pack/39520da7bc9977c7a3f50311aac6db6cc4c1892cff99
Download this torrent, it has all the information you could ever want on cannabis cultivation in very very good detail.
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Thanks SS,
Will do!....but download torrent? Sounds highly technical for a simple farm boy!
I'll give it a try.
I got my Cervantes "grow bible" yesterday too. Can't wait to go through it.
 
SensiStan

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EvlMunkee said:
Thanks SS,
Will do!....but download torrent? Sounds highly technical for a simple farm boy!
I'll give it a try.
I got my Cervantes "grow bible" yesterday too. Can't wait to go through it.
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Iv sent u some instructions :D and there are 3 cervantes videos in that pack as well as everything you will ever need to know ever ever :joint::-?

AND YES i am stoned :shock:
 
smokedupnburnedout

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EvlMunkee said:
Hey Berg, Thanks for the input.
I try not to think about how much it has cost. Just try to think of the results so I haven't really kept records, but I'll try to answer your question as best I can.
The cabinet came in somewhere between $250 and $300.
The sheathing or underlayment was about $30 for 2 -4x8 sheets.
The fans were around $90 for the Silenx kit which includes 2 exhaust fans, the controller, the mounting flanges for a 3/4" cabinet. Also in the $90 was 1 extra exhaust fan, and 2 intake fans.
I also bought a small 6" portable for around 20.
The IR Block was 60 plus I think $10 shipping. The polyfoam was something like $7 for a 50' x 8" roll.
It pains me to think of it but I would think that all together I have put well over $1000 into it including the electrical, containers.....everything except the lights. That's about as much as I care to think about it. I'm just happier not thinking about it.
The general opinion out there seems to be that the exhaust / filter/ cooling system will not work well. You may be right. I do know that it is very quiet with the doors closed and so far the filters do not impede air flow too much. I used a double wrap of the Honeywell filter cloth instead of the granulated charcoal and 2 pencil cups because the granulated carbon slowed down the fans too much. If I have to redo it I will bite the bullet and get it done. I have not heard an inline fan so I don't know the db/cfm ratio. It would surely be an option though. All together I have a little over 300cfm for exhaust and the filters do not seem to affect it too much. There is a noticable slowing when I close the doors and I believe that is due to the low intake for a negative pressure. Intake is only about 70cfm.
I could increase the airflow by adding bigger or more intake fans.
Thanks for your thoughts on it. It may be one of the biggest challenges I have.
Hope I answered your questions and thanks for the suggestions.
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homedepot has a cabinet very similar in white for 108.
 
EvlMunkee

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Hello ppl,
One more thing and it is ready to start. That doesn’t mean I’m finished…far from it. I will always be tinkering with it and I have some changes to make in ventilation. The suggestions and comments have focused on heat and ventilation so I will try to be proactive in order to avert problems before they occur. Thanks for your help.

Due to your comments, I have already begun to take steps to deal with a possible upcoming heat problem. I raised the 400w Cooltube up from 14” to 20” from the tops of the seedlings. That moved the temp sensor from 10” up to 14” from the light. This made for a 3 degree drop in temps. We will see if that is enough light.
I dropped the house temp by 3 degrees from 73F to 70F. I hope this will be temporary. Next week I will look into adding a booster fan in the duct for this room to increase air supply.
These 2 things dropped the temps by 5 degrees F. Right now daytime temps are running about 75F in the cab. It is a coolish day outside though so we will see if it holds. My goal is to have a few degrees margin of safety in case I need it.

I plan to add 1 intake and 1 exhaust fan dedicated to the Cooltube. Maybe this will give me a few more degrees.
I have not noticed any heat stress yet in the plants but I am watching them very closely.
Anyway, here is the latest installation:

I read about something made by Autopot called an Airdome. It is designed to add oxygen to the root system. I looked at it on the internet and decided I could make some myself. It is basically just a basket with bubble tube air diffusers that is put on the bottom of the Autopot. If you want to see them, here are the links.
http://www.autopot.tv/home/3d-animations/airdome-step-by-step
http://autopot.co.uk/products/download-area/autopot-airdome/13-autopot-airdome-setup-instructions-english

I went to the hydro store and bought four 3.75 inch baskets, two double outlet air pumps with adjustable control and four 2ft diffusers to make four units.

I drilled a small hole (about 1/8”) near the top of the basket for the air tube connection to enter, coiled the bubble pipe inside the basket and connected the air tube to the outside where the bubble pipe connector comes through. I placed the basket upside down in the bottom of the Autopot. There is a circle in the middle that is just the right size to fit the basket and will not interfere with the wicking action of the coco mix. When I filled the pots with coco I put an extra handful of chunky perlite on top of the basket to keep some of the coco mix from coming through. After the pots were filled I realized I should have filled the entire basket with perlite , put a sheet of wax paper or something on the top , flipped it upside down, put it in the Autopot and then pulled the wax paper out. Hindsight is 20/20 right?
These DIY Airdomes may not make a difference but I don’t think they will hurt anything either. The manufacturer claims a 130% difference in growth…. (Yeah, sure!) They also say not to run them when the temps are too hot or too cold so you will not damage the roots so I will put them on a timer with the lights and make sure that the temps don’t get above 86F.


From the manufacturer:
“Using heavy soils or peat will not enhance the effectiveness of the AirDome, as they will become wet, heavy and compressed. The AirDome should only be switched on during the daylight periods. Always ensure that warm air is blown in and around the root zone. Temperatures between 18 and 22 degrees are ideal. Temperature below and above 5 degrees and 30 degrees will potentially damage the roots.”

If they don’t work, I can always use the parts later in a hydro system so nothing will be lost.


Pic 1
Drilling a small hole in the netpot for the bubble pipe.


Pic 2
Bubble pipe coiled inside netpot with connector through hole.


Pic 3
All 4 netpots ready.


Pic 4
Netpot in Autopot upside down with air hose attached.

Pics 5 &6
2 dual outlet adjustable air pumps All connections made.
 

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Smokey Truth

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Wow, good job on the pic's and commentary you put into the captions. dig it bro. Great setup too. Ya look set though. Pic's of the cannabis when they start to grow in the Cabinet i hope??
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stonesour

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Awsome cabinet!! Im definatly going to use some of your ideas on my next cabinet for sure. Subbed +rep!!
 
EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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Smokey Truth said:
Wow, good job on the pic's and commentary you put into the captions. dig it bro. Great setup too. Ya look set though. Pic's of the cannabis when they start to grow in the Cabinet i hope??
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Hey Smokey,
Thanks a lot. I appreciate it, man!
Yeah, I filled the pots yesterday and I will post it soon. Right now I'm workin on trying to get this room a little cooler. As the cab cools it heats up the room so I'm backing up and trying to supply more air. Today it is a warm spell and the room is much warmer than the house. I figure if I can lower the temps the intake will be that much cooler. I'm installing a ceiling fan and tried to find an inline duct fan locally but I will probably have to order it. Hell, I'll add another duct if I have to. I didn't realize the room would warm up that much but it makes sense. Nice in the winter but not so good in the summer.
I will post the plant pics soon but eventually I may start a grow journal for them.
Thanks for comin by dude!
 
EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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stonesour said:
Awsome cabinet!! Im definatly going to use some of your ideas on my next cabinet for sure. Subbed +rep!!
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What's up stonesour!
I'm glad you like it. If you read some of the replies you may figure out how to save a bunch of money. No real need to wear out the checkbook like I did! I'm just a little bit peculiar about some things and sometimes can't help myself.....but hey...it's for me so why not.
Good luck to ya on your cab and thanks for the rep. I'll try to post a little every day so come on back!
 
imLIFTED

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Real good info man.. buddy called me today asking if i wanted to pick up a 4 foot high cabinet someone was getting rid of. Can't wait to get it now after looking through this thread. Lots of good ideas and I like the nice clean look it has. Might use a few of your ideas. Thanks!
 
EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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imLIFTED said:
Real good info man.. buddy called me today asking if i wanted to pick up a 4 foot high cabinet someone was getting rid of. Can't wait to get it now after looking through this thread. Lots of good ideas and I like the nice clean look it has. Might use a few of your ideas. Thanks!
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Hey..How ya doin imLIFTED.
Thanks for the compliments.
Hell yes!! Get the cab! I am working on a small cab now which I will post soon but I have been sidetracked by household chores I've neglected. It is actually pieces left over from the wardrobe and will be a great match sitting beside it. It will be done in a similar fashion but not as complicated as the big one. I will use cooler lights and use it for a veg cab I think. That way I can have another grow on deck. I figure I can knock a month off each grow that way. Now i need to learn how to grow like some of these people on Rollitup! I know I will make mistakes but it's part of the learning process, right?
Good luck on your cab and stop by again. I should post some more pics soon.....maybe tomorrow.:peace:
 
SensiStan

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EvlMunkee said:
Hey..How ya doin imLIFTED.
Thanks for the compliments.
Hell yes!! Get the cab! I am working on a small cab now which I will post soon but I have been sidetracked by household chores I've neglected. It is actually pieces left over from the wardrobe and will be a great match sitting beside it. It will be done in a similar fashion but not as complicated as the big one. I will use cooler lights and use it for a veg cab I think. That way I can have another grow on deck. I figure I can knock a month off each grow that way. Now i need to learn how to grow like some of these people on Rollitup! I know I will make mistakes but it's part of the learning process, right?
Good luck on your cab and stop by again. I should post some more pics soon.....maybe tomorrow.:peace:
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You can learn all you can from books and vids, but trial and error is the best way in my opinion. Just try make it more trial and less error :bigjoint:
 
EvlMunkee

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SensiStan said:
You can learn all you can from books and vids, but trial and error is the best way in my opinion. Just try make it more trial and less error :bigjoint:
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So true SS! I am learning as fast as I can and I have so many things I want to try that it will probably take years. But regrettably, I WILL make mistakes. You can bank on it.
Cya later bud
 
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hello I'm new to growing indoor I'm currently growing in a shied it's 6 by 8.I got a fan that circulatingthe air but I'm growing with a 1000 watt h p s,it gets 2 hot and I keep the door shout cuz of bugs. Any info if I can change 4rm 1000 2a 400 asap jus started my 1st week
 
EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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Blaze4209 said:
hello I'm new to growing indoor I'm currently growing in a shied it's 6 by 8.I got a fan that circulatingthe air but I'm growing with a 1000 watt h p s,it gets 2 hot and I keep the door shout cuz of bugs. Any info if I can change 4rm 1000 2a 400 asap jus started my 1st week
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There are a lot of guys here that could answer that better than me but the first thing that comes to mind is adding some exhaust to your shed. Use a passive intake and add a good size exhaust fan. Maybe an inline duct fan that is 400cfm or so. You've got to look at the free air rating.... not the boosted air rating. Shouldn't cost too much to get one. Now if you've got the bucks to spend, a small AC unit would surely do the job. Or if you are in a dry climate, a swamp cooler may do it. I am not convinced that 2 400w would be much better than a 1000w as far as heat.
You may be better off asking at a thread in Newbie Central or Indoor Growing.
Sorry I can't be more specific but you're probably not in the best place to get the info you need. Good luck :rolleyes:
 
EvlMunkee

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Some of you have commented about seeing pics of the plants that I am starting. I have taken a few shots, but be warned, they are not the greatest. It seems I need to take a photography class or something.
I started germinating 5 fem auto ak47 seeds on 12 Mar. The success rate was not good so after 8 days I also started 5 fem auto Blue Himalayas. Turns out 2 of the AK47 came up within 3 days and one more came up after 10 days. All 5 of the BH seeds worked. So I guess the AKs are about 14 days and the BH are about 7 days...something like that. I only have room for 4 so I will have to finish the smaller cab for the others. I decided to put the best 2 of each strain in the large cab. Now I need to finish the small cab so they will have a home. I have started working on it and it is about 50% complete now but I have been distracted. I will try to post a couple pics of it tomorrow.
I have ordered 4 three foot HO T5s for the small cab but they are taking forever to get here. If they don’t make it I may try some UFOs.
The 6 bagseeds I was testing with are about 6 – 10 inches tall now. I had to evict them and put them in a closet. They are not bad looking plants so I hate to just kill them. I will use the 150w HPS to keep them going but if they don’t, I haven’t lost a lot.
They are not growing as fast as I think they should and I think maybe it is because I have been a litttle stingy with the nutes. I started with 15- 20% ( about 200ppm) and gradually increased it up to 50%.( about 600ppm) PH is holding steady at 6 - 6.5. I should probably increase nutes to at least 75% now. but I worry about going higher than 8ooppm. What do you guys think?
Anyway, here are my crappy photos.

Pic 1
Overall shot- AKs on the outside, BH on the inside.

Pic 2
AK #1

Pic 3
BH #1

Pic 4
BH #2

Pic 5
AK #2 This one has always had that leaf curl thing goin.

Pic 6
4 Extras- 3 BH & 1 runt AK. The AK is the one with the X on the side of the pot.

Pic 7
These are the bagseed plants that have suffered so much for my education!
 

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SensiStan

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EvlMunkee said:
Some of you have commented about seeing pics of the plants that I am starting. I have taken a few shots, but be warned, they are not the greatest. It seems I need to take a photography class or something.
I started germinating 5 fem auto ak47 seeds on 12 Mar. The success rate was not good so after 8 days I also started 5 fem auto Blue Himalayas. Turns out 2 of the AK47 came up within 3 days and one more came up after 10 days. All 5 of the BH seeds worked. So I guess the AKs are about 14 days and the BH are about 7 days...something like that. I only have room for 4 so I will have to finish the smaller cab for the others. I decided to put the best 2 of each strain in the large cab. Now I need to finish the small cab so they will have a home. I have started working on it and it is about 50% complete now but I have been distracted. I will try to post a couple pics of it tomorrow.
I have ordered 4 three foot HO T5s for the small cab but they are taking forever to get here. If they don’t make it I may try some UFOs.
The 6 bagseeds I was testing with are about 6 – 10 inches tall now. I had to evict them and put them in a closet. They are not bad looking plants so I hate to just kill them. I will use the 150w HPS to keep them going but if they don’t, I haven’t lost a lot.
They are not growing as fast as I think they should and I think maybe it is because I have been a litttle stingy with the nutes. I started with 15- 20% ( about 200ppm) and gradually increased it up to 50%.( about 600ppm) PH is holding steady at 6 - 6.5. I should probably increase nutes to at least 75% now. but I worry about going higher than 8ooppm. What do you guys think?
Anyway, here are my crappy photos.

Pic 1
Overall shot- AKs on the outside, BH on the inside.

Pic 2
AK #1

Pic 3
BH #1

Pic 4
BH #2

Pic 5
AK #2 This one has always had that leaf curl thing goin.

Pic 6
4 Extras- 3 BH & 1 runt AK. The AK is the one with the X on the side of the pot.

Pic 7
These are the bagseed plants that have suffered so much for my education!
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I usually incrementally increase my nutes until i reach full dosage, remember young plants can handle full dosage within about 3 weeks of germination so dont be shy :) bagseeds look awesome nurture them, u might get some girls and hence EXTRA NUGS :D
 
Favre2Harvin

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This is very well thought out and planned and looks like will provide a good amount of space for whatever your gonna do!
 
EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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SensiStan said:
I usually incrementally increase my nutes until i reach full dosage, remember young plants can handle full dosage within about 3 weeks of germination so dont be shy :) bagseeds look awesome nurture them, u might get some girls and hence EXTRA NUGS :D
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Maybe I am just being a little too cautious. I do need to get their growth rates up though. Their color is also a little bit pale so it is possibly just what they need.
I have first looked at their ph to make sure that it is not that. I water them with ph in the range of 5.8 - 6.o, but the runoff is usually around 6.5. I will handwater them until I see that they are established enough to get the water from the bottom. Should be any day now. When that happens, there will be no runoff.
Yeah, I have become attached to the Bagseed plants. I got the seeds from an old friend who recently passed away so I don't think I could let them go anyway.
 
EvlMunkee

EvlMunkee

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Favre2Harvin said:
This is very well thought out and planned and looks like will provide a good amount of space for whatever your gonna do!
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Thank you F2H and welcome,
Already I am wanting more room. Right now I have 3 sets of plants and wish it was twice the size. When I get things flowing it, I think it will be enough room for my modest needs, so I should be satisfied. The small cab will help out when I get it running.
 
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