Here's whats going on in our state

topshelf

New Member
i would never grow for some one else inless i new them very very well.. hell all they have to do is send into the state and make some one else there grower with out telling you and the state wont tell you either.. and its the growers ass thats in trouble for over the limit.
So what if that happens ...nothing will happen to you!If you read your card you are exempt from prosecution..I AM GLAD M74 DIDNT PASS AND I LIKE THINGS JUST LIKE THEY ARE!......There are so many holes in OMMP a Lawyer could drive a truck threw it.I know of people that are starting dispensaries,home delivery,and clinic,so no one really cares any more!
 

mcpurple

Well-Known Member
So what if that happens ...nothing will happen to you!If you read your card you are exempt from prosecution..I AM GLAD M74 DIDNT PASS AND I LIKE THINGS JUST LIKE THEY ARE!......There are so many holes in OMMP a Lawyer could drive a truck threw it.I know of people that are starting dispensaries,home delivery,and clinic,so no one really cares any more!
he is right nothing will happin to the grower cuz he was not aware. i how ever wish it did pass, but it is ok it didnt cuz it is still legal for card holders, the main reason i wanted it to pass is so i could donate meds legally and buy good clones an seeds with out ordereing
 

angrygranola

Active Member
me too but this is getting out of control.. why the hell would we want to be like california. they set the steps to follow i think we should just leave well enough alone and be happy on what we got. i just wish fuck assnines would stop pushing ballot after ballot trying to get somthing more. when i think they should be lucky enough they got what we got.
we shouldn't stop fighting untill cannabis is completely legal. it should be no more concern to the state than the tomatoes in my garden.

completely legal period.
 

Li'l Bob

Member
M74 was like any other law they try to pass- they only tell you the parts of the law they want you to hear about- and then they bury a lot of other stuff in the law that most people don't read, or couldn't understand the legal jargon anyway.

M74 would have created a regulatory system that made the ability to get your meds even hard to do than it is now, but hey- each to their own opinion.

Myself, I'm glad it didn't pass! It would have made growing a lot more expensive, and then who bears the responsibility of that expense- The patient, or the grower? I like being able to do what I do for the benefit of the patient, not their expense.
 

Li'l Bob

Member
Initiative 28 would add a dispensary system to the current medical marijuana law that requires patients to produce their own pot.
I'm a little confused here; have we forgotten that a large part of the patients in this program are on fixed incomes- think of the expense for them to grow their own, and this isn't a plant you can just grow.

Medicinal quality requires more than just planting a seed; all that does is bring more pot in the system. Most patient's don't realize that there are different strains for different symptoms- not to mention the natural ability to grow.

I support the idea of legal pot, but we need to educate our people first, then carry that education to the populous. This isn't an easy fix situation here. The media started in the early 60's bent the opinion of the American people, and our current "War on Drugs" is so filled with bias from that early propaganda that we have more on our plates than most people realize.

Personally, I believe, from historic observations; anything you give to the government, at any level, to oversee, tax, and regulate, gets completely ripped and tossed into something it should never have been. And the only people who benefit are those who hold the pens and sit at those $500 a plate dinners.
 

jeffbelize

New Member
Dont try and tell any one in the OMMP that it isnt easy to grow they all think you can set up a room and grow pounds of kill top shelf bud for nothing..Some guy on OGF site says he gets 66oz from 6 plants in dirt in 3 months with one light.So thats what they are all looking for.
 

Li'l Bob

Member
LMAO- like I said, we really need to educate our people. You know, the other thing I thought of after my post is, "Let's consider the fact that these are patients; that means they are sick- most of them can't physically grow anything, much less their own meds.
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
many can't grow we all know that.. it all about the WHAT THE FUCK LOL.......and that refurs to me taking an OZ to my club donating it for 140 to 150 then them asking from other patiants 225. then every one on the streets expect to get it at 140.. bull shit i say and these clubs say they are none profit.. ya right and i have a 3ft cock too. LOL
 

Li'l Bob

Member
LOL- I can see the money to cover expenses, but to deffer the cost by the patient, that's a bit obvious. I can't say much about the street value- that comes down to grade, but medical is a whole new topic- of course, there are those that are still lacking the concept of true medical grade marijuana too.
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
LOL- I can see the money to cover expenses, but to deffer the cost by the patient, that's a bit obvious. I can't say much about the street value- that comes down to grade, but medical is a whole new topic- of course, there are those that are still lacking the concept of true medical grade marijuana too.
and THOSE i hope you are refuring to DR.'s. the person claiming there problem is one thing the doctor that is giving out percription like candy on holloween is another... and here in oregon they are giving them out for hang nail pain..
 

Li'l Bob

Member
I am referring to all those (including those DR.'s) that either prescribe it, or use it and have no real concept of the different grades of marijuana- let's face it, there are a large number of patients out here that are given the remnants of brick weed and think that is medical grade; give them real top shelf, medical grade marijuana and it blows their head off. That's why I referred to the idea of "a patient that opens an interview with [" I need four zips a month . . ."] tends to make me wonder about what is going on here- either they are selling, or they have no clue what real medicinal cannabis is." And chances are, they may not know what the best treatment method is for their symptoms- That is our job as a grower for a patient, and it is also the Dr's job as the writer of the prescription.
 

mcpurple

Well-Known Member
I am referring to all those (including those DR.'s) that either prescribe it, or use it and have no real concept of the different grades of marijuana- let's face it, there are a large number of patients out here that are given the remnants of brick weed and think that is medical grade; give them real top shelf, medical grade marijuana and it blows their head off. That's why I referred to the idea of "a patient that opens an interview with [" I need four zips a month . . ."] tends to make me wonder about what is going on here- either they are selling, or they have no clue what real medicinal cannabis is." And chances are, they may not know what the best treatment method is for their symptoms- That is our job as a grower for a patient, and it is also the Dr's job as the writer of the prescription.
i got 4 zips a month for 4 months and it is very high grade meds, i know they are not the best of the best but it is very very good meds, ive only smoked a few others growers stuff that compared. and i am in pain all day, every day and the strain i have is a great pain killer.
i dont sell at all, i would usally take about an O and make some hash then the rest i smoked, im a heavy smoker cuz i have real pain all the time. im sure theri is better meds then what i got around some where but i am fine with mine for now, new strains would be nice
 

Li'l Bob

Member
Then you don't smoke 4 zips a month- I have a patient I provide with more than that, but like you they make other medibles and oils that we use for other patients as well. My statement was generalized, and I meant what I said. When a patient starts an interview off with that statement, it raises red flags. I didn't say everyone who can only have a certain amount.

I have just found that the majority of patients in the program are lacking a bit in the education of what medical quality marijuana is. And my statement was intended to make it apparent that most of us growers need to start educating our patients; in some cases, educate ourselves so that we can educate our patients. If we took the time to do that, the knot-heads out here growing trash and pawning it off on our patients would slowly come to an end-

More simply put, the responsibility lies with the growers and the caretakers to formally educate our patients. If we don't police our own, the government will do it, and that will bring about regulatory stuff that will defeat the purpose of the program and benefit only the government. They will make it like any other pharmaceutical drug- and who can afford those.
 

mcpurple

Well-Known Member
More simply put, the responsibility lies with the growers and the caretakers to formally educate our patients. If we don't police our own, the government will do it, and that will bring about regulatory stuff that will defeat the purpose of the program and benefit only the government. They will make it like any other pharmaceutical drug- and who can afford those.
agreed, but alot of care takers and growers are the ones who are supplying the shit meds and keeping the good shit for them selfs and then i can only guess what happins next but i dont care cuz it is not my buissness. alot of the growers are in it for money and nothing else, ive met many,many growers who are like this, ive seen first hand the shit meds they give and then once the patient leaves they pull the good shit back out. i dont take part or hang out with any of these people any more cuz i dont like the way they work. i dont think to many growers out theri would like to educate theri patients over making some money. but some do, you seem like a compassionate grower and person. i know not all growers are like this but ive met over 50-60 different growers plus more patients and all the growers are pretty much doing th same thing as each other
 

mcpurple

Well-Known Member
im good mygirls, i read you had to tear a few plants up but had a few survivors.:-(
im still dealing with bullshit probation though, still cheifin like a champ though:bigjoint:.
you got your grow posted up on RIU
 

mygirls

Medical Marijuana (MOD)
im good mygirls, i read you had to tear a few plants up but had a few survivors.:-(
im still dealing with bullshit probation though, still cheifin like a champ though:bigjoint:.
you got your grow posted up on RIU
i have a new computer and can't down load pics to my computer.. i guess i need a program and not sure what it is.. im getting ready to flower one of them girls that suvived.
 
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