Hempstar 3 Stage LED Grow

Cereall

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I do before doing trimming also, equity for me to trim close and then leaves dry and recede in more leaving only nice buds.

Tried after doing once and was hard to do with leaves all crunchy and not sticking straight out


Rasputin...why do you do after? Not trying to debate or say your wrong, just like to hear another opinion and see if that would benefit me.
Thanks
 

rasputin71

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It helps slow the drying process (I have real low humidity) and it helps to begin the fermentation/curing process sooner. The buds need whats left in those leaves to begin curing while drying. I also drown my plants for a few days under the lights, and a few days in the dark, before I cut and hang the whole plant for 6 or 7 days.

I trim the fan leaves off about the time they get crispy but the sugar leafs and buds are still sticky. The last 2 plants took about 6 days before I trimmed them and then I left them hang/lay out for another 12 - 24 hours before I began curing in jars. My first plants I cut, trimmed, and hung to dry, had crispy/brittle buds after 4 days and didnt taste as good after 2 weeks cure as my drowned plants do 7 days after chop.

Here is a thread if you want to read up on it more - https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/409622-truth-about-flushing.html
 

dunit

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Okay I keep promising to get caught up and just lots of crazy shit going on and I don't mean to leave everyone hanging but on that note...

I would like to add a personal note pertaining to security and such. Even though I have a liscense I don't grow in my own home as I have children. I spent most of the weekend trying to help a friend who is also an RX grower but had his children removed from his home friday by Child Services because he grows (legally) there and his ex complained. It has been an eye opening experience and keep it clean because the authorities play dirty.

Anyway, the weigh in is still a couple days out. Trimmed em up a few days ago and been running in to fluff them and bag and sweat them but not much time for pics. Ended up getting my Trim Reaper working and to use them properly you have to pull each individual bud off the stems so you don't see the big dry colas which is what everyone likes to see but oh well.

Anyway here's the pics. That's a standard 60 watt incandescent bulb in the pic for reference. They have had one sweat and will go into bags for their final sweat before into jars for curing.

Hope to have a weight pretty quick.

Enjoy the pics
 

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dunit

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They look delicious and the yield looks decent too
I know I didn't reach LedBudGuy s benchmarch but I feel I did decent especially in light of the nute issues. They are having their last sweat right now and then the weight should be accurate and after that I can just cure.
 

dunit

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Well I seem to be having an issue uploading pics and have tried three times today. May have to go on my old comp with a different browser and see if that works.

So as to give a sneak a peak....

I am currently at 331 grams and the RH is a touch high but I also just fluffed them and brought the dampest stuff to the top so once it all evens out I don't think it will drop much more. My actual draw from two Magnums is 360 watts.

It's taking forever to dry and probably because the resin and crystal seems to be damn near coating the fuckers :-)

So I know this is going to sound greedy but I'm wondering what I would have hit if I hadn't had the nute issue in week 7. Certainly sold on LED from here on in as basically I screwed up the grow a bit and looks like I'll still hit about .9 grams per watt which is better than the best grow I ever did under HID......and I did lots. This industry has certainly come a long way from when I first tried LED's a couple years ago. Shop carefully and I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Pics tomorrow come hell or high water
 

Cereall

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Awesome to hear... good job

I would be happy with .9 GPW any day, especially on your first LED grow with the new lights and running into a slight issue towards the end

Look forward to your next grow journal as it seems like it takes a grow on the lights to get everything tweaked in nice
 

dunit

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Hell or high water plzzzzz :)
Lol....my bad. What a brutal week. But good thinks happening :-)

So theres two zip-loc bags so subtract 24 grams for them and we are at 327 grams of dried bud just just over .9 grams per watt. Definately not bad for a first pull with LED's with some issues along the way.

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Anyone want better pics gonna steal a scale from a buddy and put the bud in the scale bowl and take some pics.
 

dunit

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would you say for yield 600w hps is still the way to go atm?.
Well I just had my first LED run and screwed up a bit and still got .9 grams per watt which eclipsed the best run I ever got under HID (which was with 600's). Other than their start up price being tought to swallow I really think that once you make the investment, as long as its a decent panel, they you'll never look back
 

rasputin71

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Well I just had my first LED run and screwed up a bit and still got .9 grams per watt which eclipsed the best run I ever got under HID (which was with 600's). Other than their start up price being tought to swallow I really think that once you make the investment, as long as its a decent panel, they you'll never look back
I ended up just adding a 400w MH horti in a batwing to my flower box (with the 600w air-cooled HPS) for now, but I am definitely considering LED (if I can afford the extra cost) if/when I get a patient to have me as their caregiver. Then I can double my plant count, order a tent and some LEDs, and maybe run a comparison of 1kw mixed spectrum vs LED. :hump:
 

dunit

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I ended up just adding a 400w MH horti in a batwing to my flower box (with the 600w air-cooled HPS) for now, but I am definitely considering LED (if I can afford the extra cost) if/when I get a patient to have me as their caregiver. Then I can double my plant count, order a tent and some LEDs, and maybe run a comparison of 1kw mixed spectrum vs LED. :hump:
You wont be dissapointed with the MH HPS combo and I think you'll find the plants stay healthier longer. I know in my HPS days there was always lots of yellowing towards the end which a very tech minded grower friend told me was not just the plants sucking out but degredation of the clorophyll due to the spectrum shortfall of HPS in the blue peaks. He ran MH HPS combo and never saw the same yellowing I did.

I really think that's where good LED's nail it because they really tailor the light to maximize the par absorbtion.

Looks like I might end up being caregiver also in the near future and then I will really have the plant numbers to do a few comparisons of my own
 

rasputin71

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You wont be dissapointed with the MH HPS combo and I think you'll find the plants stay healthier longer. I know in my HPS days there was always lots of yellowing towards the end which a very tech minded grower friend told me was not just the plants sucking out but degredation of the clorophyll due to the spectrum shortfall of HPS in the blue peaks. He ran MH HPS combo and never saw the same yellowing I did. ....
I am trying to keep 5 in flower, spaced 2 weeks apart. They spend the first 4 weeks on the 400w MH dominant side to reduce stretch, the next 4 weeks under the HPS side, and the final 2 weeks in the center (hopefully) getting both spectrums. :hump:
 
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