help regarding shroom spores, and shroom growing

shroomer7

Active Member
Can some one help me with some info on how to extract shroom spores i got 3
questions.
1: when extracting does it matter if they are dryed or fresh?
2: can you grow (clone) mushrooms with the spore print?
3: in genaral how do you extrace the spores frm the mushroom?
 

Sgt. Floyd

Well-Known Member
1. They need to be fresh for the best results. The caps drop spores as they dry.
2. I don't think growing from spores is cloning. I've read teks in a few different places for scraping spores off prints into the jars and for making spore syringes from prints.
3. Take a fresh, mature cap and put it gill side down on a piece of heavy note card or aluminum foil. Put a bowl over it like a dome to protect it and leave it over night. The cap will drop the spores and they will stick to whatever you've put the cap on.

Disclaimer: I've taken a couple of spore prints but I've never used them for anything because you're supposed to sterilize whatever material you make the print on. I made them more for identification purposes. And they look really cool.
 

mycology101

Member
Cloning is when you take a inner tissue piece of an actual mushroom stem, and then use that isolated Heterokaryotic cluster as your mycelium source. You will experience much MUCH more substantial yields this way. Heterokaryotic simply means that two germinated spores come together or "mate" to become one organism that is able to produce spores. You can also do true isolations by grabbing up single germinated spores and mating one isolate to another on purpose. This is true "cross breading" although it doesn't always result in a perfect 50/50 split of traits, it simply means that they Heterokaryotic form is now sharing traits from two separate substrains.

To start spores into action to get mycelium, you can just order a spore syringe from a trusted place and then use it to innoculate some brown rice flower jars. Check out the instructions in my signature below for a very simple method. I HIGH recommend using www.spores101.com or www.mushbox.com for your mycology needs as they have always treated me very well. I hope this helps.

Also, if you have trouble finding good help about shrooms you can check out shroomtalk.com and just browse their posts. It is a great resource for new growers since people there are nicer to noob growers than most other big shroom forums. Good luck!
 

goodolboy

Active Member
I always used HD tin foil, whiped down with alcolhol pads, then stored in small jewelery zip locks, the bags can be sterilized by putting them in the microwave for a minute or two.

Always use alive, fresly picked shrooms for your prints. After you pull the shroom from the ground or cake, cut the stem off as close to the cap as possible. drop the cap gill down on your tin foil and cover it with a bowl or cup for about 18 hours then youll have a really dark, thick, almost 3d spore print.
 

polygonmind

Member
1. stick to fresh mushrooms for prints.
2. cloning cannot be done through a spore print. you can take samples of the stalk tissue and inject it into a liquid culture or to agar
3. cut off a fresh cap and lay it on a sterilized piece of tinfoil for 24 hours. remove cap and let it air dry for another 24 hours then seal away for future use
 

swishatwista

Well-Known Member
Would anybody help idenify a couple nice big mushrooms sets i have. Several different kinds, all promising. I'm taking prints right now. ill have pics in a second.
 

someone else

Active Member
Cloning is when you take a inner tissue piece of an actual mushroom stem, and then use that isolated Heterokaryotic cluster as your mycelium source. You will experience much MUCH more substantial yields this way. Heterokaryotic simply means that two germinated spores come together or "mate" to become one organism that is able to produce spores. You can also do true isolations by grabbing up single germinated spores and mating one isolate to another on purpose. This is true "cross breading" although it doesn't always result in a perfect 50/50 split of traits, it simply means that they Heterokaryotic form is now sharing traits from two separate substrains.

To start spores into action to get mycelium, you can just order a spore syringe from a trusted place and then use it to innoculate some brown rice flower jars. Check out the instructions in my signature below for a very simple method. I HIGH recommend using www.spores101.com or www.mushbox.com for your mycology needs as they have always treated me very well. I hope this helps.

Also, if you have trouble finding good help about shrooms you can check out shroomtalk.com and just browse their posts. It is a great resource for new growers since people there are nicer to noob growers than most other big shroom forums. Good luck!
The key with cloning is consistency.

You get consistent mushrooms, that all look the same and have the same growth characteristics.

With both cloning and spore printing, it's useful and more viable if you use fresh mushrooms. You can clone from dried mushrooms too, but it's a helluva lot easier with fresh boomers.

This is a great website for starters, but I'd strongly recommend taking a look over at: http://www.mycotopia.net/

You'll find detailed info on how to make spore prints, or how to clone fresh or dry mushroom tissue.
 

swishatwista

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Here's what i found, theyre all about the same strain/kind.
 

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