hay smell. help

Help. Im on my 4rth grow. How do I avoidhhaving my harvested buds from smelling like hay? Mylast grow was White Rhino, and it smelled like pineapple baby shit on the plant, but I harvested and now it smelled like hay. What can I do to fix this?

mellow j said:

Help. Im on my 4rth grow. How do I avoidhhaving my harvested buds from smelling like hay? Mylast grow was White Rhino, and it smelled like pineapple baby shit on the plant, but I harvested and now it smelled like hay. What can I do to fix this?

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Let it cure properly. Check the pinned post, great info.

Agree^^. Ive done this and I bet most have. You are jarring them up before they are completely dry. Its better to let a plant dry too much than not enough. Hay sucks

let it dry out more in open air. It will go away. Also, some strains are just like that. Avoid them imo. The strains that smell dank all the way through are the best, far and few.

Dont cut it early!!!!!!! Usually a hay smell means its not ready to be cut. Also for better smell hang the whole plant. I find that helps too. Keeping track of your flower time and making sure the tricombes are mature will help. Oh ya, a fast dry time and over drying will also kill smell but not make it smell like hay. Good luck on the next attempt.

If anything its probably too dry to have the hay smell, and zero cure

Great info guys. Thank y'all. I really super duper appreciate it... I was wondering this as well. Imrrunning afghani, og 18, strawberry blue, and white rhino. Can I transplant from solo cup, to 5 gal bucket? Last run I went from, cup, to 1 gal during entire veg, then transplanted to 5 gal buckets 1 week before flowering. At harvest I noticed that the root ball never really took off into the new medium. During transplant I loosened up the root balls by gently massaging it and everything. Can cup to 5 gal bucket be done with good results? What are the tricks? Im using Happy frog, and the ff trio.... Can I go from cup to 5 gal buckets and how? Thanks in advance guys. I really need the best medicine that I can grow....

I would go solo to 2 gal as soon as the roots start wrapping the solo then same thing from 2 gal to 4 or 5gal
Solo straight to a 5 gal then to flower a week later isn't much time to utilize that much real estate you'd be better off going from solo to 3 gal veg for a week then flower but others opinions may vary

mellow j said:

What can I do to fix this?

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Grow white rhino

lay, post: 11453674, member: 834488"]I would go solo to 2 gal as soon as the roots start wrapping the solo then same thing from 2 gal to 4 or 5gal
Solo straight to a 5 gal then to flower a week later isn't much time to utilize that much real estate you'd be better off going from solo to 3 gal veg for a week then flower but others opinions may vary[/QUOTE]
Good advice s

Ok, I see what your saying.... What I was wondering if I went strait to 5 gal buckets after my seedling roots well in the cups, so that I can fill the medium during veg, while root growth is thriving... what do ya think about that idea?

I get the hay smell everytime. But once i put it in jars to cure that smell goes away...everytime. Nothing to worry about...

Gquebed said:

I get the hay smell everytime. But once i put it in jars to cure that smell goes away...everytime. Nothing to worry about...

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Ya, what this guy said

Smells like that UNTIL you cure it.

There is some good info here but....The hay smell is lack of oxygen, doesnt matter when you chop or what strain. It should never smell like that. Ever. My plants smell like dank all the way through. the "hay" smell is from nitrogen sugars cellulose, starch, etc breaking down anaerobically with the high moisture content. It begins to ferment. This releases ammonia and acids giving the foul odor.
Up rh (instead of jarring and burping) lower temps, and increase airflow is the general prescription.

Yes you can go directly to 5 gal buckets, my preferred pots.. just dont wait too long and get a mass of roots in the solo cups, and roots do still grow in flower. Depending on strain, being a little root bound can be a good thing, all my landrace sativas are. not to be that guy but its evident a true understanding of how the plant works is missing. Why do you need more soil? To water less often? You can hold stomatas open increase temps at the canopy and increase airflow to speed transpiration and have lower ec/ppm in the soil. Im not saying dont transplant by the way, just that most people spout info without knowing why

qwizoking said:

There is some good info here but....The hay smell is lack of oxygen, doesnt matter when you chop or what strain. It should never smell like that. the "hay" smell it from nitrogen sugars cellulose, starch, etc breaking down anaerobically with the high moisture content. It begins to ferment. This releases ammonia and acids giving the foul odor.
Up rh (instead of jarring and burping) lower temps, and increase airflow is the general prescription.

Yes you can go directly to 5 gal buckets, my preferred pots.. just dont wait too long and get a mass of roots in the solo cups, and roots do still grow in flower. Depending on strain, being a little root bound can be a good thing, all my landrace sativas are. not to be that guy but its evident a true understanding of how the plant works is missing. Why do you need more soil? To water less often? You can hold stomatas open increase temps at the canopy and increase airflow to speed transpiration and have lower ec/ppm in the soil. Im not saying dont transplant by the way, just that most people spout info without knowing why

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I disagree with a lot of this. Google 'green leaf volatiles'. Its very common and to be expected. It's remedied with proper curing.

Yes i know what they are.. there is a difference between esters and aldeyhdes that give a green planty smell and that of the decomposing "hay" smell. The reason we think of a hay smell and not cut grass should make that obvious. Its the various acids and ammonia that make up the smell of improper drying

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Yes i know what they are.. there is a difference between esters and aldeyhdes that give a green planty smell and that of the decomposing "hay" smell. The reason we think of a hay smell and not cut grass should make that obvious. Its the various acids and ammonia that make up the smell of improper drying

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Maybe I've never had the hay smell then. I haven't been around actual hay in probably 15 years, so I don't have anything to compare the smell to. But Id bet people use the term 'hay smell' to cover everything, from fresh cut to fermenting buds.

Thank you guys that took the time to give me advice. As I stated, I only have 3 grows to my name, and I'm a newbie. I don't know what you guy's know. That is why I ask questions in the first place. I have a closet grow space of 5' by 3' with a high velocity intake at the floor level and another exhausting at the very top. Im doing all that I can at the moment about the rh with a humidifier. Its falling in between 50 and 70 percent during veg, and I keep it as close to 50 percent as I can during flower. My temps run a bit high at around 70 to 80 degrees, but I'm working on that. I really need to grow the best medicine I can, for my injuries and anxiety/depression, for mywifes ddepression, my moms glaucoma, and my uncles cancer. It was to my understanding that growers of this medicine are compassionate people down to help newbies like myself, to grow the best medicine I can, and in turn when I get good at it, I pay it forward to the other newbies. If this is a pro's only group, I will move on.

Sounds like your doing pretty good, those are good ranges

Thank you sir. I'm researching every night. Strains, grow methods,