Have been sucessfully cloneing for 5 years now. Something i observed.

Whenever I grow a new mother plant from seed, the first generation of clones never does good.
I have grown NL, AK47 and WW with the same results. My last seed plant (the WW) only gave me one grade AA clone, a handful of crap and a couple dozen of non rooters.

The second generation does MUCH better and by the time I get to the third generation, everything is golden. I get 90% of my clones to take root with no other problems.
I had my AK47 going and started the WW. I had both going at the same time. AK clones were great and Gen1 WW clones were all wilted.

This problem is now long past (I am on Gen4),but when I start another strain, I would like to bypass this problem.

Is this a typical problem to have?

I haven't really noticed much of a difference other than taking a clone off of an immature plant. I know many people here take clones early to sex them but I have noticed not only with my girls but most garden type plants root better from mature plants.
Guess I really didn't help with much of an answer other than to ask you if you might be taking too many clones off of partially immature plant? May I suggest a test run? Take the time you usually take your first generation and add 1 week to it and see if a week makes any difference. If does you just adjust your initial cutting and go one as planned before.
Merry Christmas

canefan said:

I haven't really noticed much of a difference other than taking a clone off of an immature plant. I know many people here take clones early to sex them but I have noticed not only with my girls but most garden type plants root better from mature plants.
Guess I really didn't help with much of an answer other than to ask you if you might be taking too many clones off of partially immature plant? May I suggest a test run? Take the time you usually take your first generation and add 1 week to it and see if a week makes any difference. If does you just adjust your initial cutting and go one as planned before.
Merry Christmas

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Thank you and let me clarify as my post may have been misleading.
When I take clones from a seed plant, I call those clones Gen1. When I have Gen1 plants fully grown and mature, I take clones and call them Gen2.

Also my clones always look and grow better than my seed plants. Perhaps this is related? My WW grown from seed grew fast, but had some undesirable traits that disappeared by the second generation of clones.
Thanks again and Merry Christmas

I have not experienced this at all, now what I have seen anecdotally is my later gen clones finish faster than the seed mothers (I guess since they were technically vegging the whole time).

It could be strain related or something else. How are you cloning and how old is mother at first cutting.








*Edit - I don't think you have to know how to spell it to do it, so you should be OK

I start taking clones when the plant is two months old and trash it when it is three months old. I clone with RW cubes. I started following ABF's method and modified it slightly for what works for me.
Again, no problems at the moment. I will be working with my WW for a while longer, but will again be planting seeds of a new strain in the future and would like to get good clones from the seed plant. My history has shown that I need a mother plant that is a clone of a clone to have a good success rate.