shinedog55
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This is by far the best thread I've read on the board to this point. I grew for a few years but circumstances caused me to have to put it aside for several. I believe I stopped around the time this thread was started from the looks of the dates. Anyway, I've made it through about the first 200 pages so far and to that point it seems fairly redundant in the questions. I really don't want to be the guy to ask the same questions already posed after years and years of a continued thread. I'm really looking for some thoughts on my next setup. So let's get started.
1) Being 200 pages into the thread and not wanting to take another week to finish it out, I'm curious if there have been any significant changes or improvements to the flowering, fence post system that instructions were created for originally? If there have been I don't mind going to look for those changes, but if it's still fundamentally the same I've got the information I need then.
I'm beginning to plan and build out my space for veg and flower. I've grown in soil in the past and had pretty good luck with it. However, keeping multiple plants in veg for mothers and then allowing roots space to grow, etc. really took up a great deal of floor space. It looks like with the system I can allocate more space to square footage in the flowering area and not so much in veg. In my space I have a few limitations to consider and that's why I need opinions in my planning. 1. Temps and 2. Power and both actually relate to one another. I don't know how much power I will have to work with at this point and with that I don't know what environmental controls I will have the ability to run. Anyway let's get started with the other questions I would like opinions on.
I guess I'm trying to pack as much punch as possible while keeping heat down in order to avoid additional power requirements of a cooling unit.
2) LIGHT - I have a space of around 12' x 8' to 10' x 8' to work with in my flower room. I'd like to run three of the fence post units. As stated above power and heat will be a potential issue. I've considered running 3 600w HPS lamps (one for each unit). I've had 1000w lamps before and they just put off too much heat in my opinion for my current situation. However, if money were no object would 3 LED lamps work better? I don't know much about LED's and I've read a little on the CREE DIY stuff but honestly I'm not much of a DIY guy. Building the units will be about as much DIY as I need in this situation. So what are your thoughts on flowering under LED opposed to HPS in terms of power vs. output and does anyone have any recommendations on lights? Brands? Models? Etc.
2) CO2 - It looks like CO2 is a critical component of a successful grow. I don't know how difficult it's going to be to get a tank filled around where I live. I'm curious about the burners using propane, but will they generate too much heat?
3) CONTROLS - I tried the DWC bubble buckets at one time. I saw success in plants growing quickly and large, but I just couldn't control water temp enough to avoid root rot setting in. That being said I've been looking at controls for PH, PPM, Temp etc. for the reservoirs of each unit. I've seen systems that basically just report stats, to systems that actually control the variables by lower and increasing ph. I guess automation is the term I'm looking for. Anyone have an opinion on these systems? Again money not being an object are they worth it? What brands would you recommend?
4) My last question relates to clones. I will most likely have to start from seeds due to my lack of a connection for a clone in my area. I get the idea behind popping the seed and adding it to a neoprene sleeve once the tap root sets, etc. No problems there. What I am concerned about is the plants maturity in the veg system before taking clones. Having started from a seed before I know it can take a while for a plant to really mature to a point clones can be taken. Or at least mature clones. Also, extended time in the veg unit could lead to some root issues it seems based on the roots extending beyond the depth of the unit. Thoughts? Also, once clones have been taken from the grown up seedlings, rooted, vegged and placed in flower that initial process is going to require sexing if you want to maintain a lesbian colony. How difficult is it to remove male plants from the flowering system without disrupting the other plants or at least the roots. If they are tangled I don't imagine you're going to want to cut the roots and risk the potential of leaving dying rotting roots in the misting tube. Again thoughts on this?
I know it's a long post, but any and all hope is greatly appreciated.
1) Being 200 pages into the thread and not wanting to take another week to finish it out, I'm curious if there have been any significant changes or improvements to the flowering, fence post system that instructions were created for originally? If there have been I don't mind going to look for those changes, but if it's still fundamentally the same I've got the information I need then.
I'm beginning to plan and build out my space for veg and flower. I've grown in soil in the past and had pretty good luck with it. However, keeping multiple plants in veg for mothers and then allowing roots space to grow, etc. really took up a great deal of floor space. It looks like with the system I can allocate more space to square footage in the flowering area and not so much in veg. In my space I have a few limitations to consider and that's why I need opinions in my planning. 1. Temps and 2. Power and both actually relate to one another. I don't know how much power I will have to work with at this point and with that I don't know what environmental controls I will have the ability to run. Anyway let's get started with the other questions I would like opinions on.
I guess I'm trying to pack as much punch as possible while keeping heat down in order to avoid additional power requirements of a cooling unit.
2) LIGHT - I have a space of around 12' x 8' to 10' x 8' to work with in my flower room. I'd like to run three of the fence post units. As stated above power and heat will be a potential issue. I've considered running 3 600w HPS lamps (one for each unit). I've had 1000w lamps before and they just put off too much heat in my opinion for my current situation. However, if money were no object would 3 LED lamps work better? I don't know much about LED's and I've read a little on the CREE DIY stuff but honestly I'm not much of a DIY guy. Building the units will be about as much DIY as I need in this situation. So what are your thoughts on flowering under LED opposed to HPS in terms of power vs. output and does anyone have any recommendations on lights? Brands? Models? Etc.
2) CO2 - It looks like CO2 is a critical component of a successful grow. I don't know how difficult it's going to be to get a tank filled around where I live. I'm curious about the burners using propane, but will they generate too much heat?
3) CONTROLS - I tried the DWC bubble buckets at one time. I saw success in plants growing quickly and large, but I just couldn't control water temp enough to avoid root rot setting in. That being said I've been looking at controls for PH, PPM, Temp etc. for the reservoirs of each unit. I've seen systems that basically just report stats, to systems that actually control the variables by lower and increasing ph. I guess automation is the term I'm looking for. Anyone have an opinion on these systems? Again money not being an object are they worth it? What brands would you recommend?
4) My last question relates to clones. I will most likely have to start from seeds due to my lack of a connection for a clone in my area. I get the idea behind popping the seed and adding it to a neoprene sleeve once the tap root sets, etc. No problems there. What I am concerned about is the plants maturity in the veg system before taking clones. Having started from a seed before I know it can take a while for a plant to really mature to a point clones can be taken. Or at least mature clones. Also, extended time in the veg unit could lead to some root issues it seems based on the roots extending beyond the depth of the unit. Thoughts? Also, once clones have been taken from the grown up seedlings, rooted, vegged and placed in flower that initial process is going to require sexing if you want to maintain a lesbian colony. How difficult is it to remove male plants from the flowering system without disrupting the other plants or at least the roots. If they are tangled I don't imagine you're going to want to cut the roots and risk the potential of leaving dying rotting roots in the misting tube. Again thoughts on this?
I know it's a long post, but any and all hope is greatly appreciated.
