Grape Stomper x OG and a Blue Himalaya 600w Tent Grow

lorax101 · May 9, 2011

THESkunkMunkie said:
I'd use a lower rate of the flower booster additives your using in your feeds as they contain more potassium & phosphorous which will cause leaves to yellow in high doses. Flush 'em through with water and tomorrow feed again on lower additive more base nute ratio. Nitrogen diff' wont fix overnight it'll take a few more days so be paitent and don't overdose on the nitrogen in flower either mate it can be a grave mistake at this stage. You don't want them reverting back to veg. My OG#18Skunk's from my last run went yellow early due to me overfeeding and letting the ph drop ~ That is another thing that could be causing the yellowing too mate, check your ph both in the res and the run off.

Do you think doing a 50/50 with grow/bloom at about 3/4ths strength will be enough N, the ratios of the Grow are 7-9-5 and the bloom is 3-12-6. I'm thinking I should be able to keep the grow that high because of the ratios being like that without over doing it.

THESkunkMunkie · May 9, 2011

I'm not familiar enough with the nutes your using tbh, after looking at your first post again to see what your using again. I didn't want you to overuse a seperate nitrogen additive in as well as what you've already got is all.are you running any extra flowering boosters along with the base nutrients ~ like a PK additive?? If so then use less for now and then carry on using the base bloom nutes at a lower strength. you don't want to be packing too much PK in too early on into flower. Less is more on the nutes bro I always feed mine on a lighter schedule to what those charts say, they're more of a guideline to follow anyways so you don't overdose your plants really. Nitrogen is not needed by the plants as much in flower either, whats the ph?? That could be the main issue that is causing all this imo.

lorax101 · May 9, 2011

PH is 6.0, haven't been able to check runoff cause lights are off at the moment. I'm only using The grow nutes, bloom nutes, and magpro. No boosters or other additives. I'm thinking the PH on that one might be off so I'm going to flush it wit a few gallons of water. After that I think I'm going to water them with a simple ratio of 4ml grow to 8ml bloom and hopefully that will even stuff out a bit. I'm guessing you're right when you say it is ph issues as the other two plants have mostly green leaves and I've watered them all the same. I'm hoping everything turns out fine.

THESkunkMunkie · May 9, 2011

6.0 is a bit high for your medium tbh mate....drop it down and try to keep between 5.5 - 5.8. I found ph-5.8 to be the sweet spot with R/w cubes. Vermiculite & perlite are a hydro medium after all and will do better at this rate ;-)

. And they'll be fine once adjusted too.

lorax101 · May 10, 2011

Thanks Skunk. Hopefully the flush I did will help. I'll try to get some more pics up in the next few days.

lorax101 · May 11, 2011

Day 26ish
Some pictures.
Think they are doing a little better since I watered them. Will water them some more in the morning. Still, the leaves are quite a bit lighter than they should be. Half the places I read say this is normal, others say that it is some type of defic or a nute lockout. I'm somewhat assuming this happened due to the fact that I didn't flush between veg and flower. I'm also considering that it may because I only did a half feeding during the feeding with molasses. I may start adding the teaspoon to every watering and do 3/4ths strength nutes the rest of the grow. From what I'm reading this should work well as the molasses will help with the uptake of nutes and since this is hempy it would make sense to have molasses in every watering.

lorax101 · May 15, 2011

Got my oder neutralizer set up today and I will be letting it run in the room the tent is in. I took off the carbon filter since it wasn't really doing it's job, it was some cheap one off of amazon. When the lights turn on tomorrow and I get home from work I will be able to judge how well this system works. I'll get some pictures of it and the plants then.
The plants are looking good. Not much change but I've seen less leaves falling off in the past 3 days. I know they wont get greener but the color of some of the leaves is confusing me. You can see it in this picture here and it's the decoloration around the tips of the leaves. Is this an N defic or is it just naturally turning colors. The other two plants do not have any of this. I'm thinking this is P defic caused by lockout.

lorax101 · May 16, 2011

Day 32 -Half way done?
I almost squeel like a little girl everytime I go in the grow room. This is honestly some of the most fun I've ever had in my life. I can't say if marijuana is addicting but growing it sure is.

Today I did a lot more branch management to try and get some of the side branches up, they are getting pretty weighted down. The oder neutralizer has not been 100% successful but I'm trying something else with it and if that does not work I will be going back to get a new carbon filter, or perhaps make my own. They are starting to get their first orange hairs. The smell is very piney, my chick says she could almost smell a hint of tomatoes as well. A lot less leaves have been dying off, not sure if that is because a lot already died or if the flush really did help.

A lot of pictures cause I like taking them and it's fun to look at them.

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peaceloveandpaws · May 17, 2011

Lookin good lorax! Gunna be some fat nugs!

Jerry Garcia · May 18, 2011

What cfm fan are/were you using with the carbon filter? And what size is the filter? Are you pushing or pulling air through the filter?

DIY is really the way to go with filters...the commercially available ones are way overpriced. You can make your own for about $30 in materials and another $30 for aquarium filter carbon. Mine last just over 2 months before needing to be changed, so after the initial investment in materials you only need duct tape and carbon every couple months.

Can you change the carbon in your purchased filter? And how long has yours been running? Seems like you should be able to use the shell but just replace the carbon.

My GSxOG are only a couple weeks into flower now but they have stunk to high heaven throughout most of veg. Even after handling my Sour Diesels I can only smell the GSxOG. Both females and the male are like that, so I'm not surprised you're having odor control issues...this shit stanks!

lorax101 · May 18, 2011

Jerry Garcia said:
What cfm fan are/were you using with the carbon filter? And what size is the filter? Are you pushing or pulling air through the filter?

DIY is really the way to go with filters...the commercially available ones are way overpriced. You can make your own for about $30 in materials and another $30 for aquarium filter carbon. Mine last just over 2 months before needing to be changed, so after the initial investment in materials you only need duct tape and carbon every couple months.

Can you change the carbon in your purchased filter? And how long has yours been running? Seems like you should be able to use the shell but just replace the carbon.

My GSxOG are only a couple weeks into flower now but they have stunk to high heaven throughout most of veg. Even after handling my Sour Diesels I can only smell the GSxOG. Both females and the male are like that, so I'm not surprised you're having odor control issues...this shit stanks!

I am using a 310cfm fan and since they sent me the wrong carbon filter (I bought 470cfm 20 inch carbon filter) it was 30 inches and has a cfm rating of 650cfm. It is from LED wholesellers. This oder neutralizer I made blows out fresh smelling air but it doesn't seem to get it 100% neutralized. I don't mind the smell so much but always having to go to other peoples houses instead of having them over kind of sucks.
I don't know about changing the carbon in the filter. I was also pulling air through the filter.

lorax101 · May 20, 2011

Day 35- week 5
Watered 36 hours ago, full strength. Somewhat confused though because the purple color on the leaves have really been coming out on one plant and im not sure it's genetics. It could be cold temps as it's been quite cold the past few nights. Other than that, the buds are still developing fine. For some reason the colors are off again, couldn't figure out how to get it back. All the discolored leaves are a dark purple. Some nute burn as well.

lorax101 · May 21, 2011

Anyone here have any ideas about all the odd colors? Should I flush again?

peaceloveandpaws · May 21, 2011

Dude - sounds exactly like my garden. Don't have any ideas either. Somethin with overfeeding? But I've got some leaves that are like....straight purple. Plan on doing a big flush tonight..

Jerry Garcia · May 22, 2011

Color = low temps. Personally I love when that happens. Makes for visually appealing plants.

Don't flush or anything, it's normal and fine. In most cases the plant has secondary pigments that expose themselves with low temps and decreased nutrients (they have to lose the green first before they really turn purple).

lorax101 · May 23, 2011

Jerry Garcia said:
Color = low temps. Personally I love when that happens. Makes for visually appealing plants.

Don't flush or anything, it's normal and fine. In most cases the plant has secondary pigments that expose themselves with low temps and decreased nutrients (they have to lose the green first before they really turn purple).

I think you're right. I've been working odd shifts and forgot to set the heat in the house higher causing the room the plants are in to get to around 60 degrees F (15.55C) during lights out. The only thing that confuses me is that only two of the plants turned purple. Visually you can see a few different variations from the two plants that did and the two that didn't. I think this could be caused by it being a different pheno.

genuity · May 23, 2011

different phenos is what id say.
looking good too. :joint:

lorax101 · May 23, 2011

Day 38
Two of them are beginning to pack on some weight. They are looking very good and am expecting a good yield from these two girls. They are the ones that are getting some purple color to the leaves. The other plant has stayed completely green with some slight yellowing.

Not sure why my camera has been switching between color settings. I think it happens when I switch to the micro mode on it.

Plant 1: Purple leaves, buds starting to swell

Plant 2:No purple, slight nuteburn, slight yellowing leaves, little swelling

Plant 3:very purple leaves, buds swelling, smells the best of the three, very sour grapey smell

All three

lorax101 · May 23, 2011

genuity said:
different phenos is what id say.
looking good too.

Although, I just thought of this, this plant is close to a vent hole that may have a very small amount of light that leaks in through the tent. I'm wondering if maybe that was the cause of this plants differentness. I still think it's phenos, but just a thought.

Jerry Garcia · May 23, 2011

The purpling in plant #3 could be a Phosphorous deficiency in conjunction with the cooler temps which triggered the color change.

Also the very last shot looks to indicate a general Nitrogen deficiency across the board. I know you recently flushed because of over fertilizing so you probably need to incorporate something with added Nitrogen in the next feeding. Not too much, but a little in conjunction with the rest of your nutes might help.

This strain seems like it will be a quick finisher, so don't fret about it too much.

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