giving defoliation during flower a try

pk_boosted2 said:

Im a liar cuz i run 10 ml gallon of cal mag on r/o water w organics? Lol okay

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I have some strains I run that high. But I don't ever check ppm. Has no point with organic nutes and soil. And when others have its been 2400 in bud....but with organics that's not a true number. EC is for salt based and synthetic nutes.

pk_boosted2 said:

Because ive been doing this for a long time. Ive helped many people, many people have helped me and at end of the day all i want is for people to have great results and bountiful harvest full of premium flowers.

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Pushing high priced snake oils is not helping people. It hurts their plants and pocketbooks and is unethical.

Cannasutraorganics said:

Really need to keep a straight face when reading this dribble. I've smoked guys bud that follow this train of thought. And I don't get high and its harsh. Then when they smoke mine they fall out.

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What a bunch of rubbish. Plant is genetically driven to produce cannabanoids and will do so when provided all of the essential elements it needs, along with the right temps, light, etc.

Who are you and the snake oil pusher trying to kid? Not me, I've been doing this for too long.

And a thought about liquid fertilizers - I quit using most of them years ago. After a while most (not all like DG Foliage Pro) will throw precipitates.

Dry is the only way to go. Plus it's cheaper if you're a value shopper like me.

Uncle Ben said:

What a bunch of rubbish. Plant is genetically driven to produce cannabanoids and will do so when provided all of the essential elements it needs, along with the right temps, light, etc.

Who are you and the snake oil pusher trying to kid? Not me, I've been doing this for too long.

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So your just cheap and think everyone's supposed to be cheap??? That getting it a little better with snake oil is wrong, irregardless of the situation?
Applying common plant science to weed is wrong. And if you truly know the plant, you'll agree. Most plants use co2 all the time in varying levels. Weed cant stand higher doses at light out. It can kill weed. The way it buds. Making THC. The high levels of nutes that you can use and not kill it. Weed uses different nutes at different times. Just like all flowers and fruits and vegetables. They don't "need" it, but it helps dramatically. Let's see your side by side testing....... You can't because your too cheap to spend it even once.

im sure its been touched on, but you will probably want to suppliment some kind of sugar in a small amoung because youre gonna be cutting off the plant from feeding itself.

i hope this is an experiment with a plant in a corner and not a whole room/crop.

My point about running biocanna is that there isnt a pk booster.. I make my own organic one using those supplements humboldt natural bloom 0-10-0 and soluable seaweed 1-1-16.. I said instesd of using pk 13/14 thats what i do. I understand its only a 4 bottle lineup i use it extensively. Im right on w u i think bio-canna is one of best nutrients on market.

If your growing premium cannabis why do you need to value shop? Idk bout you guys but i dont need to penny pinch for products lol. Canna only costs a few dollars a plant when unthink about it u need to get a gram off 1 plant to pay for costs of nutrients thats expensive? Maybe upfront costs but not back end.

Listen ben i agree with you on some aspects some of the best cannabis cultivators on the planet make their own nutrients element by elements from powdered forms, but thats not who we are addressing on these forums those guys dont come on here to talk shop. 90% of people on here just wanna find results using liquid ferts that work. All i did was recommend some that are tried and true.

Its hard sit here and explain how to add x amount of raw nitrogen and x amount of calcium. If people wanted to get crazy u can go use the Hoagland method of plant science goes all way back to i believe the 1930-40s and breaks down what each element plant really needs to function and its usually half of what these nutrient companies tell you to use. But i still dont even exactly know how use it properly how is smeone just starting out supposed to? I thought we were on here to talk to people and help them use products available on the market that will give them great results.i recommended some and got told im telling em to buy snake oils. Lol they arent snake oils they do work when used correctly are some snake oils ? Absolutely.

Fack!!!

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LOL!!!! 8 bottles of low dose nutes..... There is a reason why there are so many and are low dose..... So you will buy all of them!!! Build a good soil instead!!!

10 inch thick buds...... With a pair of 42 inch scissors laying on the top of the pot.... LOL!!!!!


Kinda explains The mentality IMO.....

Hey what are you referring too being low dose ? Just wondering are you talking about advanced being low dose? Because thats actually very wrong they are one of the most concentrated nutrients on market u neeed to run very little of any of their bases or supplements. Do you use there nutrients or are you just making a statement because they have so many products in their lineup?

The reason why they have so may bottles is because of how each element counter acts biologically. They actually cram more in each bottle than most other companies which is why they got seperste bottles. Its also because u can tailor each element to specific strains and varieties. Some want more nitrogen some want more calcium some like more mag. Thats what makes advanced such a good product you can play w it like no other nutrient line and make it work for you.

Thats the misconception of using advanced that because its so many bottles it must be wrong. Or oh they advertise and put funny labels on their bottles well yeah thats what good companies do its called marketing. So that means their products suck? Thats crazy non sense. Thats like saying Appl is a bs company because they make 18 different computers 12 different ipad and 8 diff ipods. Well its for a reason because people like plants require and demand diff things and they know that. Itherwise there would be 1 magic bottle of nutrients that solves everyones problem well that jus doesnt exist and is impossible to do. People have tried thats why u dont see many 1 part nutrients if any. The chemical makeup and structure cant bind together and seperstes at certain opoints which is what advanced does they sre maxed out in each bottle so they got put it into a diff bottle.mjust like phos cant mesh with calcium needs sep bottles. Thats simple

If you would like I will go back to the beginning of the thread and pull the quotes for what I just said.... Low dose meaning low NPK values per bottle. I am one of those who do not understand purchasing a bunch of bottles full of some of what a good soil provides just to dilute it and pour it into the soil. Growing in water is a different story all together! I saw pots with soil in them.. The ones with the 10" buds LOL!!!

Around and around and around it goes, where it (the brainwashing) stops nobody knows.

Cannasutraorganics said:

Really need to keep a straight face when reading this dribble. I've smoked guys bud that follow this train of thought. And I don't get high and its harsh. Then when they smoke mine they fall out.

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what is bullshit is you thinking a nutrient can make a plant more potent, what a effin idiot. Nuff said

Using the proper nutrients can increase potency of marijuana flowers.. At end of the day genetics plays an important role in being able to produce a certain amount of thc, cbd and cbn. With that said using the proper nutrients will allow you to reach that potential. Thats why i said that canna and advanced nutrients are better products than dyna gro and GH because of the makeup of the nutrients themselves. It is true that not all macro and micronutrients are created equal. Using the proper nutrients allows you to reach those levels that the genetics allow while gettin high quality and producing heavy yield. Its my opinion from years of growing that there is an absolute difference in what nutrients can do. There have been numerous tests and studies that will also back that fact up. Not all nutrients being sold for cannabis cultivation will provide the same results i think that evident. Otherwise there wouldnt be any reason to have different nutrient companies there would only be 1 bottle of this "perfect nutrient". But its never been done for a reason because its impossible. So nutrients absolutely make a huge difference in the end of result of flower growth.

It is true that if a strain has ability to produce say 20% thc and 6% cbd that your not gonna use a nutrient wnd get it to produce 30% thc and 15% cbd.. But diff nutrients and what you give your plants providing all the other basic requirements including light, atmosphere and growing conditions are optimal for excelled plant growth. The nutrient you feed your plants will absolutely make a difference if your able to maximize the genetics potential. I find great variences between nutrient companies and end result absolutely.

I find that MY skills as a grower and MY ability to build a grow room that has the best lighting and environment I Can provide the best bud using ANY nutrient, MIRACLE GROW included, Because I have knowledge and skills and not some magic bottle of bullshit.

I hear yah. Dont ever advise using miracle grow but i hear yah. I stick w cannabis specific nutrients myself if i had the choice but everyone is on these super soils and tlo. So i just started working on primarily organics and making my own soils because thats what people seem to want these days. Everyone has their own way of doing things but were all in the same game trying to get good results and no matter how you get there and what u use doesnt matter to each his own. Theres no one right answer or one way of doing things and thats the beauty about growing, knowing you did everythng start to finish and making people happy at the end of the day is all we are looking for. Cheers

....and the PKbooster rides in on a white horse to rescue the Peters she's so fond of.

How old are you 50? You act like a teenager.. You should probably grow up at some point. And idk whats up with your spaghetti western movies from the 70s but im not familiar with anything that occurred before 1982 so if u wanna put up little videos or clips make sure there from sometime in the past decade so we can actually figure out wtf youre referring to. Thanks