Fox farm nutes

using fox farm open sesame, beastie buds and cha Ching, anyone have good results with these? Also should I just use them alone or with others, using ocean forest happy frog mix for soil.
 

Bugeye

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I like their pretty labels. The products themselves are fine, overpriced for sure. The feeding schedule they publish is baloney. Why would fresh organic soil need nutes added in first month? Insanity for new growers, but I guess it gets people to use up the product faster. Good luck, seen it, done it, don't use anymore.
 

chemphlegm

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I used their soil and their line and found them troublesome. After much coddling and some close calls I was able to use it up, but wont bother again. I'm off the bottle now but if I wasnt I'd be using a friendlier line
 
I used their soil and their line and found them troublesome. After much coddling and some close calls I was able to use it up, but wont bother again. I'm off the bottle now but if I wasnt I'd be using a friendlier line
What soil would you recommend, I do agree I think their soil is too hot, was thinking about trying coco or another type of soilless medium, also any other nute suggestions?
 

chemphlegm

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I could only tell you about my ends. I use pro mix and add organicare dry fertilizer and some botanicare tea per directions and add water when buckets are light. I failed in coco, sorry
 

greg nr

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I like their pretty labels. The products themselves are fine, overpriced for sure. The feeding schedule they publish is baloney. Why would fresh organic soil need nutes added in first month? Insanity for new growers, but I guess it gets people to use up the product faster. Good luck, seen it, done it, don't use anymore.
If you look at the feeding schedule, they start out with the lightweight nutes. For the main line, it's big bloom (0-0.5-0.7). Sure, you have to cut them back, but they are assuming you are using their soil so it's mostly amendments for the first weeks.

You have to do the material balance though. Add cal mag/silica/etc, feed by total ppm's, and try not to kill them. ;)
 
Sorry I was half asleep when I read that lol I'm using the open sesame, beastie bloom and cha Ching, was gonna try using them by themselves, was seeing if anyone has done this b4 and if they had good results
 

Dr. Who

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Those powdered nutrients are some nasty shit. The charting is ignorant......Fast lane to P tox....

Like powdered nutrient?

Jack's classic citrus formula - 1/4 tsp per gallon. In bloom add a 1/4 tsp of Potassium sulfate....
 

Bareback

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This^^^^^ .

I use the liquids bc their easy.
I use the soil bc it's easy.
I do not use the powders bc they'll fuck your shit up , just look at the ratios.
 

Bareback

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Liquids are just pre-moistened powders. Just saying.
Sorry dude I was trying to reply earlier but my phone rang and screwed up my reply so I'll start over.

Kelp me kelp you
Boomerang
Micro Brew
Tiger bloom
Big bloom
Grow big
All liquids


Beasty bloom
Cha ching
Open sesame
Are the dry ones I was referring to. They seem to drop my pH out of sight and the ratios are kinda wacked.

Now a days I do a mostly organic thing and only use the liquids when needed and I'm trying to get away from them completely

Just saying lol. Peace
 
I'll have to try them out next grow, gonna see how these 3 powders do, hopefully they don't do too bad. I've seen a lot of mixed reviews on them. But have heard a lot of good about the fox farm liquids.
 

HazednConfused

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I'll have to try them out next grow, gonna see how these 3 powders do, hopefully they don't do too bad. I've seen a lot of mixed reviews on them. But have heard a lot of good about the fox farm liquids.
The liquids are g2g, just gave to make sure to flush the salts out periodically
 

greg nr

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My point was that all liquid fertilizers start out as powders. They just pre-mix it all for you. If you know the chemistry, there is no reason you couldn't make your own liquid fert's for a fraction of the cost.

I'm not knocking the convenience, but to knock powders over liquids is silly. You can kill a crop with either one. ;)

(and yes, I use liquid nutes)
 

Bareback

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My point was that all liquid fertilizers start out as powders. They just pre-mix it all for you. If you know the chemistry, there is no reason you couldn't make your own liquid fert's for a fraction of the cost.

I'm not knocking the convenience, but to knock powders over liquids is silly. You can kill a crop with either one. ;)

(and yes, I use liquid nutes)
Yeah dude I was just messing with you.
 
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