Flushing with Concentrates to flavor your Herb?

Discussion in 'General Marijuana Growing' started by Farmer's Hat, Jan 1, 2014.

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    Farmer's Hat

    Farmer's Hat Active Member

    I was reading an article on the 420 forum, and I came across something unusual. Apparently you can use concentrates to slightly flavor your herb. I assume you dilute the concentrate flavoring...

    What's your take on this?

    Adding Flavors
    People pay a lot of money to get seeds they think will grow pot that smells like blueberries or chocolate or something else.

    Often these strains are hard to grow or may not be as potent or high yielding as other less expensive varieties.

    People want to know if orange bud smells and tastes like an orange. With the proper techniques you can make your favorite variety smell and often times taste like anything you want.

    You want to do this without ruining the cure. It's no point having blueberry pot that burns your throat or doesn't get you high. Do not pour any syrup or similar flavorings on your pot. The sugar will make it very harsh and you are inviting mold. There are better ways.

    The best flavor enhancing starts while the plant is still growing. You can do a certain amount while it's curing and you can even affect the smell/flavor somewhat after it's been cured.

    There are two main approaches, inside out and outside in. You can apply flavors inside the plant while it's still growing and you can try to add flavors after it's been harvested but this is from the outside.

    Anything you put in your plants water will affect the taste of the finished product particularly if you harvest it right afterwards.

    I learned this about 20 years ago the hard way. I fertilized using fish emulsion right before I topped the plant. Bad move! The resulting top smelled like fish and had a foul taste.

    What you want to do is select a flavoring that is very concentrated. Lets take orange for an example. You could use orange juice but if you could find concentrated orange extract you would have less pulp etc to deal with. You will find some concentrated flavor extracts in the grocery store.

    Want your pot to smell like vanilla? Vanilla extract is cheap and readily available, so is lemon extract (cooking variety). Other extracts can be found in stores that specialize in baking supplies.

    Lets say you can't find any of that and you want to use what you have on hand. I took the example of orange flavoring. If all you have is orange juice you could use that.

    I would suggest filtering it first to get out as much of the pulp as possible. A coffee filter works well but it'll take a while to filter it all.

    You may have to change filters a few times. Those with hydroponic units will shudder at the thought of a lot of goop going through their system. That's why I suggested the concentrated extracts if you can find them.

    It's important to do this shortly before harvest. For one thing, most extracts including the ones you make up yourself have a lot of sugar in them. This sugar will ferment and decay rapidly, even more so in a hydro unit.

    With hydro I recommend putting the flavoring in the water between 1 and 3 hours before harvest. This rule isn't set in stone but I heard from one grower who used a sugar based clearing solution on his crop and less than 24 hours later the water was foaming from bacteria growth.

    Plants draw up solution fairly quickly so one hour should be enough for some of the flavoring to reach the top.

    Three hours should not be enough time for bacteria to grow but you will want to dump out the solution right afterwards and clean out your unit.

    Remember to use plain water for a few days before harvesting your hydro crop so all that will be in the water will be the flavoring.

    If you are a soil grower it's even easier. You might think it would take longer for the flavor to work it's way through the plant but this is not the case.

    All you have to do is let the plant dry out a little before your apply the solution. In other words schedule a watering just before harvest.

    Naturally you were giving your plants plain water for several days to a week or two before harvest weren't you? Give the plant the water with the flavor when it's a little bit thirsty and it will draw it right up. One hour is more than enough time for this to happen.

    After harvest it's important to give it a good cure as I described last week. Resist the temptation to fast dry some of the weed to try it out. You will find it's even more harsh than it would be normally because you have added some sugar to the plant by way of the flavoring.

    The curing process will take care of the extra sugar and give you nice mild smoke. It will also have the flavor and aroma you are looking for.

    I'm sure I will get a deluge of email asking me what the exact formula is for the flavoring. I can hear it now "how many drops of Bosco per gallon?" First of all, I don't know what you want.

    You may want something that smells exactly like an orange or a blueberry and doesn't smell at all like pot.

    As far as I know that's not possible. You would probably ruin the pot if you succeeded. What some people think is a nice hint of strawberry may be way too strong to the next person.

    What one grower thinks is very blueberry may not smell or taste like blueberry to his friend. I suggest that you don't treat your whole crop this way while you are experimenting. Dirt growers will find this easy because they could use something different in each pot.

    Hydro people may want to isolate a plant or two with the solution. This wouldn't be very hard because you wouldn't need circulation for the short period of time it would be soaking in it.

    Other things you could try are guava, pineapple, grapefruit, passion fruit, cherry, mint or even pina colada. Stronger and more concentrated flavorings will have a more pronounced effect than more dilute products.

    You may need gallons of orange juice to get what you want but a half ounce of concentrated strawberry essence might do the job nicely.

    I may start collecting recipes and have an issue of the SU devoted to peoples favorite recipes sometime in the future. In short, experiment and see what works for you.
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    SnapsProvolone

    SnapsProvolone Well-Known Member

    Smells fishy to me...
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    Farmer's Hat

    Farmer's Hat Active Member

    I was thinking the same thing. I did not understand the concept of flushing with a flavored concentrate. It defeats the purpose of flushing.

    What about the idea of feeding the plant with some flavored concentrate during flower? Would it be similar to using a nute like Bud Candy?
    Theoretically it should add some flavor... right?
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    ~CReePeR~

    ~CReePeR~ Active Member

    I am currently using the Floranectar line, don't know yet if it will actually add flavor, but people have said it does. Im using Pineapple Rush with a Pineapple Kush.

    One concern I have with the original post. Most Extracts contain alcohol. Wont this kill the plant. And dumping OJ into a res or into soil just doesn't seem logical.
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    twostrokenut

    twostrokenut Well-Known Member

    No bueno.......good dank needs no flavoring.....pineapple express really does actually smell and taste of pineapple all on its own.
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    ~CReePeR~

    ~CReePeR~ Active Member

    I agree, it has a pineapple/grapefruit smell to it when you take a deep sniff of the flowers.
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    twostrokenut

    twostrokenut Well-Known Member

    This is soooooo fucked up but back in the day I used to take schwag and spray it with mt. dew.....after it dried it weighed more and was really sticky lol.
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    Farmer's Hat

    Farmer's Hat Active Member

    That is really interesting. I hope u share the results with us.
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    Dr. Skunk Bud

    Dr. Skunk Bud Active Member

    Im pretty sure the citric acid in the orange juice would be very bad for a plant especially in large doses.
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    Whatstrain

    Whatstrain Active Member

    Wont work. Plant roots wont take up whatever "flavor" your adding in.
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    HrilL

    HrilL Active Member

    I heard of people doing this. Never done it myself but I do believe it works. I've had some shwag, like mexi brick weed that was so dry and compressed. I broke the buds apart and put a few orange peals in there. They soaked up the moisture and took on the flavor of the orange as well. It smelled and tasted like orange. The high still was weak but comparing the before and after it was a considerable difference.

    As for using actual extracts or orange juice. You can easily get extracts that are water based and not alcohol based. They're normally cheaper too. As for using actual juice. You'd need to watch your PH level. The acid in orange juice will drop the PH quite a bit. The sugar wouldn't be bad for your plants though. Carboload nutes have sugar in them most of the time.

    I think it would be better to do this over a longer period. Like someone else said you use bud candy or other flavor enhancers over the course of the grow. I do see where you are coming from thinking of just leaving a high concentrated amount in the plant right before pull but I think this could have negative effects on harshness.
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    Farmer's Hat

    Farmer's Hat Active Member

    Its an experiment that I must conduct. So far no one has shared any info based on actual experience.

    I have nothing to lose, just a small plant.
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    twostrokenut

    twostrokenut Well-Known Member

    Meh that's cause this is a medicinal place ...but hey even robitussin has artificial flavoring I reckon get it done.
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    MedicatedGrow

    MedicatedGrow Active Member

    I heard similar things about color dye

    Feed plants all throughout flowering with your favorite food coloring, watch the buds turn that color.
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    Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

    Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde Well-Known Member

    Farmer's Hat

    Personally I like the natural taste of pot.
    I once grew a plant in plain soil with no nutes, it tasted wonderful, so just not understanding why anyone would want to change this natural taste.
    Dr. Jekyll

    This is about as stupid as those candy flavored cigars that teenagers love so much.
    I would eat chocolate, but why the hell would anyone want to smoke chocolate
    Mr. Hyde
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    SnapsProvolone

    SnapsProvolone Well-Known Member

    How will you know if the pineapple flavor was genetic or some enhancement?
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    Farmer's Hat

    Farmer's Hat Active Member

    That's a good point. In order to obtain concrete data, I will use flavoring that is not very similar to the plants original flavor or aroma.
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    alwaysgreen420

    alwaysgreen420 Active Member

    I got idea how about all this time spent coming up w this shit. You actually spent some time pheno hunting and could have some bomb tasting chronic w out all the extra.

    Sent from my SCH-I545
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    Farmer's Hat

    Farmer's Hat Active Member

    Why not both?

    Ive been "pheno hunting" for years... its a lovey process that never ends.
    My curiosity drives me to conduct these experiments, because something useful could come from it.
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    zeddd

    zeddd Well-Known Member

    best flavour imo is when u add batshit throughout and finish with lemon and molasses.....the flavs on good genetics is distinctive...ummmm

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