Fist LED grow

BegginerNew said:

thx mate aloot helping out again i know you can find anything from google but i reading all forums etc got no time to google and rather i ask ppl
on forums.

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I don't mean to be a prick, but people want to help other people who help themselves. I'm really not picking a fight bro, but you're gonna have to put forth some effort if you want a good grow. Good luck, Good grow, Be safe, out.

Slipon said:

its all about keeping them plant`s small even and bushy with as many top`s as possible under the light ... I would advice you to atleast do some LST...you could also completely rethink it and try vertical, now you got a 400W in a cool tube (try to look in to the vertical grow thread`s)

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Thanks for the replies...had to go mow my legal grass out front this morning!

I will probably be hitting you up with some ideas when I get closer and transplanted to 1 gallon. Interesting report on your leaves having the trichs out to the tips. Something is making them happy. Maybe temp related?

"yield wish, to early to tell, I can do with 4Oz .. I hope for 6Oz .. any bet`s?" What do you average out of the garden from the same strain?

mycomaster said:

Have you Ever heard of main-lining? In a tight space it can produce some really amazing results.

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Thanks, I looked at main-lining last year and I'm considering it as one of my choices.

day 30

some Bud porn, some pretty amazing main cola, "some" Trichomes and some light bleach on 3 top Bud`s in the middle of my light/grow (did notice a bit the other day on two nearest the light, so have moved em down a few inch`s from 12-15" to 15-18")




main cola on the small plant (small plant = 2 week`s less Veg and in a 4 gallon pot instead of 7 like the big one and began to flower 3-4 day`s later then the big one)

pretty amazing how much vertical grow it keep coming out with, almost in the believe it re-veg some how keep trowing out sugar leave`s on sugar leave`s but when I look close, also some pistens/Bud grow under it all






first picture is a side cola on the small plant, the other is a side shoot on the big one





some Trichome`s, amazing what the LEDs do to em compared to the 600W/2100K HPS






a few pic`s of my little Bud jungle



and one of the light bleach



lesson learnd, LEDs are powerful, 12" is to close, 15-18" is more like it, need to play with the scrog screen for my next run I guess

so I can keep them Bud`s out to the side`s even higher and still keep them right in under the light 18" away


but yea a little over watering before flowering (fixed with H2O2) a few male flower (I removed) and some light bleach (I hope wont have any effect on the Buds future grow ?) but still they look so sweet and healthy



Btw

small plant have been kept "organic" used stuff like molasses, guano tea and powder and no PH`ing of anything

big one was also "organic" but after the little over watering I used H2O2 so skipped the "organic" and have been feeding it normal mineral bloom nut`s, basic Plagron nute line, 10-12$ per liter

day 31




watering day to day for both, molasses for the small one and a little bit of Green Sensation for the Big one, smell is really building up now

Nice and frosty brother.

yea they really begin to look tasty

I wonder whats up with the small plant, it just keep on trowing on more and more growth, not that I complain, but its either a bad sign ? or I will end up with hugh Bud stand`s ? big one do as they normally do, have just begun to stack Buds now and more or less stopped the vertical grow

also, just got my power bill from last year (a year of running the 600W HPS set up) extra pay compared to year`s I did run it is almost double of what I normal use

about 600$

so 50$ a month to run it as a averages, I cant even buy smoke for a week for them money, maybe 3 days if its weekend

so 1/10 of the price, tho its possible another 10% in soil/nutrients/gear aso

so roughly cost me 20% of what it cost to smoke when buying, cant wait to do the math next year wit the LEDs should be cut in half

power is expensive, specially in scandinavia, 1kwh cost about 0,40$ plus some taxes and what els they find a way to charges us with ..

Man, that's great news about the electric savings. I'm definitely going to run the 400w at night this summer. It will help a little bit.

Maybe that growth is the result of the added LED spectrum? Guess that's not a bad thing unless it gets too tall and you have to raise lights or do more LST-ing.

prosperian said:

Man, that's great news about the electric savings. I'm definitely going to run the 400w at night this summer. It will help a little bit.

Maybe that growth is the result of the added LED spectrum? Guess that's not a bad thing unless it gets too tall and you have to raise lights or do more LST-ing.

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well I hope so but nahh I have full sealing hight and I doubt it double in size 10x but yea it might be the LEDs, or one out of a 1000 seed ?

day 32 at fist light




small plant seem to have stopped all the vertical grow



look kind a funny but if Bud Vs Leaves end up as usually I end up with some nice Bud`s

and seem`s like it



I know 4 pics of the same Bud, but look so nice and hard to capture, also the smell is so sweet



and the usually "easy to access" Bud on my Big plant, to compare the growth to previous pics

Your bud pics make me want to smoke, but it's barely 9am and I have stuff to do that I would like to remember!

day 33

busy day, 2-3 week`s left to harvest, so had to make the drive and get some soil to make a repot of the large Veg plant I have going, want it in my 7 gallon pot instead of the 3-4 gallon air pot

look really nice and green, bit surprised how dark green it is out of the light, but Ooh well no Burn`s so no worry, and I do like em dark and green going in to flowering




Cat also seem`s to like em, maybe a bit to much, didn't leave her alone, the plant that is, the Cat is a male


getting ready (and look more normal under the blitz and more light)



and a wet toe

and done, and LST`d agin, and back under the light (4x49W T5HO)



also made a bit of pruning/de-leaveing, as I said, +2 week`s until its time to flower her


and the one I have had a bit of fun with trying out Hempy for the fist time, with out a PH meter .. or perlite



wonder if Plagron would sponsor my nuts in the future if I send that pics in

was out of soil, had a small seedling in a cup and only thing I had was them lega stone`s (small brown clay balls)

had a 5Kg Plagron bucket, I had some mearl left over in (Mearl = Oceanic Lime)

had a bit of nut burn`s at the tip`s (hard when you don't have a Ecc meter either )

but seem`s like I got both PH and nuts more or less spot on, I use GH bloom and micro (Lucas formula) and a bit of H2O2



Ooh yea and not to forget, the Bud`s





smell is so nice now and plant look so frosty, cant wait

You've been busy. Thanks for sharing your process with photos. Amazing.

day 34

now who was it, that said you couldn't grow quality Buds under LEDs ?

day 35

I for sure have two totally different pheno`s on my hand, did look it up and made a bit of research on the subject



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seems like I mostly get Pheno 1 and 2 the Indica dominated one, with hard compact Bud`s and a short flowering time, atleast up until now but the "small" plant seems more saliva dominated for sure, long stretchy Bud`s with more leave`s to Bud ratio then the indica dominated one




the "big" one have more of a Bud structure Im used to with this strain




will be fun to see the end result, and any different that might be, tho both look nice and frosty




p.s.
I hate to copy/past with my new Mac, sumtimes I do miss my PC

Looking good as always Slipon, nice work bro! out.

I like the trichome`s them LEDs produce, will be very sticky work to manicure em, wonder if I should leave most small sugar leaves on and just do a really good cure, don't think it will ruin the potent of the smoke to much and its only for lil ol me, just mean I have more weight and can mix less tobacco in, lets see, I will miss making oil tho, but if it continue there will be plenty of trichomes on the fan leaves for that

day 36

counted 31 top`s on the big one, hope every one give me 2-3 gram




lets see, still not many brown/oranges pistons, atleast a week or two more swelling before the maturing, and already so frosty




and I cant wait to see the finial result of the small plant`s main cola



tho its also "Only" have 9 top`s




had a bit of fun with my Veg plant, have settled well in the new pot, look so happy and healthy, so just had to FIM all the 8 main top`s



will try to get them 5 smaller once to catch up, and see if I can get the new small side grow to branch out as well, would be nice with more then 31 top`s on this one

been looking in to main lining as well, but seems a bit late might try it out on the next one ? tho I do like the my Scrog maybe make some kind of combo where each of the 8-12 main cola`s is in a 30-45 angle so the lower Bud`s is closer to the light, a bit like my big plant in flowering, have 5 "main" cola`s full of bud running up the side ("you" cant really see it now, have to wait for harvest )

day 37

used the Blitz to day, to see if I could get some "normal" color in them pics

biggest Bud is just amazing to look at, atleat in my eye`s


and over all they look sweet, and smell sweet


did also try to capture some of the "undergrowth"


and the Trichomes


and still about 2 week`s left for the big one before I consider to chop her and more like 3 for the small one ..

Looks really good Slipon. Frosty, healthy, and packin on the weight. Your led light does pretty good on penetration considering how the flowers look under the main canopy. What kind of led is that if you don't mind me asking, pretty curious about them lately. I decided to get a 4' 8 bulb t5 fixture to veg with in the future. I just can't beat $180 for a light fixture I can veg with until I put them into flower. I have some other secondary lights I'll be using as well such as some more t5's that are 3 footers that I'll put around the area for some lower light. I also have a bunch of 26 watt cfl's in spot lights that I can put right where I need them without blocking other light. I really like to get in there and give it a personal touch at least once a day, give em the 1/4 turn and get them all completely covered to satisfaction. Looking amazing, keep doing that! out.