First serious grow! LEC 315 in a 4x4 tent (Philips elite agro CMH)

So how do you like the coverage? You still have 9 total plants in that 4x4? I agree that the lesson won't add much....I could see a smaller 2x2 with 2 of those as a breeding /testing/male chamber though!

vitamin_green_inc said:

So how do you like the coverage? You still have 9 total plants in that 4x4? I agree that the lesson won't add much....I could see a smaller 2x2 with 2 of those as a breeding /testing/male chamber though!

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Thanks for stopping in! I'm guessing by lesson you meant kessil and got autocorrected?

I think what most people say is pretty spot on for coverage, amazing in a 3x3 and good in a 3.5x3.5, With those LED's I'm pretty confident about my spread, since the light definitely illuminated a 4x4 (I'd say you could veg a 5x5 with it)

It's actually just six total plants now, two seven gallons in the middle, two five gallons on one side, and a 5 gallon and a two gallon on the other side.

just moved them around a bit which gave me the chance to take some good pics. The frost on the autoflower is really coming in!

group (before I moved some around)-

blue kush auto, had a chance to take her out and get some pics of the whole plant

burmese kush- two gallon!

starbud(the auto is outside the tent in this 2nd pic, so all that on the left is her)

the rare and elusive brazil amazonia

Midnight kush- very tall, tallest in the tent by a couple inches, had to take a bottom, middle, and top pic. very little lst, but still some. sexy lady. 7 gallon.

blue kush auto closeups-

day 15 of 12/12--- midnight kush is the big headline here!
buds!!! Also seeing some budding on fool's gold, and brazil amazonia really seems to appreciate me moving things around yesterday and giving her more room.
midnight kush main stem:

the midnight kush stem which, because of the light lst, is also the main stem:

group shot:

Brazil amazonia:

fool's gold:

blue kush auto, still chuggin' along, I started the flush last night, since she's an auto moved under 12/12 she should finish pretty fast, and from what I hear plants finish pretty quickly under both the cmhs and leds, she's at day 65 from seed, so if I flushed for two weeks she'd be at around 80 days old. I looked at the trichs last night and saw a lot of cloudy ones.


can't wait to get off work tomorrow and come see what they've done!

One benefit of those LEC's you get to see buds fast

couldn't resist taking some pics of each one when I got home tonight!

group-


blue kush auto-


Burmese Kush budding-

Fool's gold-

Midnight kush-

Brazil amazonia-

Starbud-
main stem- Middle stem- Three-leaves-per-node stem

I wonder if starbud is budding slower due to genetics or the fact that there's so many tops compared to the rest of the plants, or both, or neither and I'm screwing up. I'm not worried very much about the latter, or any of it really.

just can't wait to see more! I'm most excited for the point where I can smell them all and get an idea of the flavors. especially brazil amazonia, I've been curious about that the whole time, since I've never been sold weed that was even pretending to have any heritage to that area. I can't think of any strains bred with anything originating that far into south america. So I'm really hoping that world of seeds is legit!

Tent's filling in quick, looking good, wouldn't worry about that starbud, you're only like a week or so into 12/12 and there are flowers coming in, just smaller, each strain will behave a little different.

hey I was wondering, would it work for drying to use my small tent right next to my big tent, connected by some ducting, so the flowering tent would be pulling passive intake through the drying tent? Or would there be any kind of problem to having all my incoming air pass over my dead and drying plants first? the benefit I see is not having to use or buy an additional fan or filter, but not stinking up the house.


the plants are good, not much has changed other than what you may expect, so no pics, just expect bigger buds next time
I can't wait to chop that blue kush, not just to smoke her, but to give the whole stage to the main attraction!

borbor said:

hey I was wondering, would it work for drying to use my small tent right next to my big tent, connected by some ducting, so the flowering tent would be pulling passive intake through the drying tent? Or would there be any kind of problem to having all my incoming air pass over my dead and drying plants first? the benefit I see is not having to use or buy an additional fan or filter, but not stinking up the house.


the plants are good, not much has changed other than what you may expect, so no pics, just expect bigger buds next time
I can't wait to chop that blue kush, not just to smoke her, but to give the whole stage to the main attraction!

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Could work, a flex vent between them as long as you can maintain passive intake through the connected tents. The filter/fan in the flower tent should be enough to maintain airflow, you may have to crank it a bit if you have it on variable. Would be a cheap way to do it and not have another fan/filter in the drying tent, worth a try. You want airflow to avoid any mold issues but you want to avoid air being pointed directly at the plants for a slower dry.

GroErr said:

Could work, a flex vent between them as long as you can maintain passive intake through the connected tents. The filter/fan in the flower tent should be enough to maintain airflow, you may have to crank it a bit if you have it on variable. Would be a cheap way to do it and not have another fan/filter in the drying tent, worth a try. You want airflow to avoid any mold issues but you want to avoid air being pointed directly at the plants for a slower dry.

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cool, that's pretty much what I was hoping to hear!
I'll probably give that plan a shot for drying the auto. If that doesn't seem to be working I'm sure I'll be fine in the closet

Just did a watering. I've been watering some of them in between though. mostly the burmese kush, dries up her 2 gallon pot way faster than the others. I also went to wal mart and got a new oscillating fan. The one I had already is good for airflow, but doesn't have a stand.
Group before-

Starbud-

Midnight Kush-

Brazil amazonia-

Burmese Kush-

Fool's gold-


Blue Kush Auto coming in less than 20 mins!

I took the blue kush auto out of the tent to water the brazil amazonia, figured I could get some good pics as long as she's outta the tent!

edit- also, the blue kush auto pics outside the tent were with the flash on

mostly a verbal update, just not in the mood to take a bunch of pics, I typed most of this yesterday, so now there are actually a few pics. I just contradicted myself so hard in that sentence.
The lights were raised again a few days ago, I feel bad for the blue kush auto- who knows what she would have done under 18/6 with the lights closer! the lights now are higher than they could have gone without the 1' tent extension, so I'm glad I bought it! The plants are about 24" away. Thanks for convincing me on that guys!

Brazil amazonia is looking awesome, actually. I didn't expect a 13 week strain to start off by building buds so quickly, hopefully she doesn't stop and the extra flowering time pays off.
midnight kush is looking good, still the most budding on it, I really like how it seems to me that for the past few weeks her fan leaves have all been sticking up "at attention" for pretty much the whole time. she must really get along with my nutes or watering or something.
starbud's still good, I'm counting like 8 tops on her. Expecting that by the end of the weekend she'll be showing me something more like midnight kush is right now.
fool's gold is cool, I haven't been paying much attention to it, but hoping it produces a good amount based on the genetics (big budxskunk #1)
burmese kush is definitely doing well, just tall and narrow most likely due to the pot size.

group-

starbud in front, midnight kush in back-

burmese kush in front, fool's gold in back,

brazil amazonia-

blue kush auto-

I was just starting to set up the veg/drying tent and noticed lights were on in the tent, though they shouldn't have been. I checked the timer, and apparently I was a total idiot when setting it to 12/12, because it's actually on 13/11! I think daylight saving time might have contributed to my confusion. I'm definitely blaming it on that at least.
It's 13 on 11 off, you guys think it would be a good idea to switch to 12/12 or should I just let it go as is? I'm assuming switching to 12/12 should be fine since it's not like I'm making the lights-on period longer, I figure if anything it'd be a little better to gradually switch light cycles, though I'm sure the ideal is NOT three whole weeks of 13/11

I ran a star bud and burmese recently, both really nice, my starbud pheno wasn't the best yeild but rock hard buds that were some of the frostiest I've seen. The burmese was very niceas well, good yeild and lost of frost as well. Cloned them both and running them again as we speak.

firetruckjacklakai said:

I ran a star bud and burmese recently, both really nice, my starbud pheno wasn't the best yeild but rock hard buds that were some of the frostiest I've seen. The burmese was very niceas well, good yeild and lost of frost as well. Cloned them both and running them again as we speak.

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nice! I might pick a favorite and reveg after harvest for a clone

just today I noticed a problem on the burmese kush, some of the lower leaves are yellowing and the lower branches are looking BAD:

I'm guessing this must have been going on for a while and I just didn't inspect enough to see it, it's definitely been a busy week for me,
looking through my jorge cervantes book this almost looks like a phosphorus deficiency to me, which would kinda make sense, the bio canna feeding schedule says to use the veg stuff for the first few weeks of 12/12 so I only switched to the flower formula for the most recent watering
just a few hours ago she got her 2nd dose of that

borbor said:

I was just starting to set up the veg/drying tent and noticed lights were on in the tent, though they shouldn't have been. I checked the timer, and apparently I was a total idiot when setting it to 12/12, because it's actually on 13/11! I think daylight saving time might have contributed to my confusion. I'm definitely blaming it on that at least.
It's 13 on 11 off, you guys think it would be a good idea to switch to 12/12 or should I just let it go as is? I'm assuming switching to 12/12 should be fine since it's not like I'm making the lights-on period longer, I figure if anything it'd be a little better to gradually switch light cycles, though I'm sure the ideal is NOT three whole weeks of 13/11

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You could do either, leave them or flip them to 12/12, I don't think it's make a huge difference either way. I sometimes run them for 7-10 days at 14/10 to stretch and pre-flower (right now I have 2x 7 gal's at 14/10 for 8 days), then switch to 12/12 from there when they go into the main flower room. Haven't seen any issues doing that so not much different than what you're doing.

added the extra hour of dark
Here's some pics
I just noticed this yesterday, and it's more pronounced today, starbud pistils are turning purple!
it's really hard to tell in these two pics, but I'm loving it!

starbud-

burmese kush-

fool's gold-

midnight kush-

brazil amazonia-

Blue kush auto-


I shouldn't have turned the flash on for the last few photos, I was trying to catch a good representation of midnight kush, really fat nugs so far, should be a good yield off of her

I swear, I had no choice!
this branch was just flopping over on the blue kush, I really can't wait to sample her.
it's one of the lower branches

Sure it did!

Mohican said:

Sure it did!

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Funny how that happens to me the first time I grow a new strain or phenol