First serious grow! LEC 315 in a 4x4 tent (Philips elite agro CMH)

Mohican said:

Sure it did!

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GroErr said:

Funny how that happens to me the first time I grow a new strain or phenol

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an additional bonus to cutting that branch- If it's smokeable tomorrow night, then the last time I bought weed is the last time I buy weed in 2015, methinks. who knows, it might even be the last time I buy weed period.


group shot-

starbud-
burmese kush-
fool's gold-
midnight kush-
brazil amazonia-
blue kush auto
couple of hairs made it into that photo, oops!

Buds are looking sweet. I just upgraded from a 250w HID to the LEC 315 for the same reason. Never want to have to buy again and more to share with friends.

Nice, looking great in there, don't think you'll be buying much weed.

Don't think you and @bellcore (nice buy!) will be worrying about buying weed for a while

I always photoshop the hairs out.

Who said that?!!

I got a wonderful unexpected gift from a family member, she asked how many plants I could grow legally, asked why I don't start six more in veg, and when I said I'd need a veg tent, she ordered one! I'll throw the kessil and maybe some CFLs in to start. Waiting on the summer to order one or two of the new a51 lights, but when that happens I think one or two of the rw-75s should find a home in there.
it's a 2x4 tent, once that shows up I'll pop some beans. I'm thinking of the hog, colombian gold, and/or midnight kush.
And my little 1x1 tent can actually make itself useful! Males and drying. Seems to me since I have the extra ducting sitting here, I'm about two COBs and a 6" booster fan away from having a totally solid "never buy weed again and also give awesome christmas presents" perpetual setup. maybe a small carbon filter for drying as well.

Raised the lights a day ago, seems that they're still gaining height.
starbud-
burmese kush-
fool's gold-
midnight kush-
brazil amazonia-
Blue kush auto- two branches sideways similar to the one I chopped early-

midnight kush definitely has a smell now, it's really weird, Like a cross between lavender and bag balm ointment. I was really hoping it'd be more like the blue kush, but whatever, big ass nug.
I'd say fool's gold and brazil amazonia smell light green and midnight kush smells like a light purple, if that synesthetic analysis makes any sense at all

Got my 2x4 veg tent all set up, with a 6 inch booster fan and just the 36 watt kessil right now. Should be enough to get seeds to pop, over the weekend I'll definitely get more light for veg. shouldn't need much, I'm weighing a few options-
one of the high wattage cfls that comes with its own little crappy reflector, about $65 and comes with a 125 watt 6500k cfl
or a two bulb t5ho fixture, about $65 and bulbs included as well
or another 36 watt kessil
just for now, I don't really wanna spend more than $100 on grow lights until I build a new computer.

the ideal plan would be spend very little on making the lighting enough in the veg tent, so I can build my computer before the new a51 lights come out this summer, which I'll probably want to buy two of to replace the rw-75s in my flower tent, which will then go in the veg tent!

the ladies are doing well mostly. a few issues have been developing over the past week or so on burmese kush and starbud, it's not really bad on starbud, just a little blotching and yellowing on some lower leaves, not really bad just want to correct it, burmese kush has a lot of yellowing though, buds on both plants looking awesome however. starbud, as expected, has a ton of trichs for her age ")

I think over the weekend I'll plant three of the hog from th seeds, two colombian gold from world of seeds, and my other brazil amazonia seed from WOS.

the hog seed I gave to my friend- he did 12/12 from seed with it under a 600 hps in a 5 gallon and it's taller than any of my plants, looks like it's gonna yield at least 6 ounces

this finger hash rules

Just be careful with the Kessil and seedlings. It can fry them very quickly. I had to learn this the hard way!

Although the fact that I was using an elevated rack to hold my rapid rooters and the tap roots were popping out of the bottom and drying out didn't help.

Haven't even started any seeds, too scared of frying them with the kessil! Still thinking about a fluorescent solution. excited to do it though

Here's some current pics
group-

starbud is front middle with midnight kush behind her, front left is burmese kush and back left is fool's gold, on the right is brazil amazonia
Starbud (picture doesn't do the trichs justice)-

Burmese kush-

Fool's gold (smells my favorite!)-

midnight kush (surprisingly, smells my least favorite, menthol-ish)-

brazil amazonia-



Anybody have an opinion regarding a two foot two bulb t5ho light vs a 125 watt cfl with reflector? Both sound pretty good as a starter for veg, each has advantages and disadvantages, but I could find a use for either one after replacing my main veg light with LED down the line

got some good news, and also running into some issues. They didn't happen overnight, it's just now they're significant enough I wanna post them.
the good news is that they're all packing weight and starting to mature. Starbud is living up to its super frosty description. Starbud and midnight kush are starting to purple on the sugar leaves. midnight kush is really dense and a good producer, hope the smell improves. burmese kush is basically just a cola and 4-6 nugs on the side but I'm actually surprised with how much she's producing for just a 2 gallon smart pot. fool's gold looks great, and like it'll produce a good amount considering the shorter veg and no training. dense nugs on the fool's gold and midnight kush. Brazil amazonia seems odd, 75% sativa and it's definitely apparent in the nug structure and fan leaves, but the shortest plant in the tent.
The bad news is just on starbud and the burmese kush. fool's gold has some yellow and red spots but it's not so bad, especially since we're at day 44 of 12/12 and the breeder says 55 days for flower, in fact, I should probably start flushing that one. Fool's gold has yellowing and brown spots, burmese kush mostly just the yellowing, I've plucked some really bad leaves off of both yesterday.
group-

starbud-

burmese kush-

fool's gold-

midnight kush-

brazil amazonia-

brazil amazonia on the right, starbud front left midnight back left-

Problem on burmese kush-

problem on starbud-


I'm still thinking, pretty much barring some catastrophe, in four months I'm going to have a lot of high grade weed in a few weeks, despite these problems. I'd still like to improve it.

Looks overall pretty good to me, though there's pretty much at least a small issue on every plant- starbud canoeing and yellowed lower leaves with brown spots, burmese kush yellowing and dying lower leaves (almost positive it's nitrogen def) and obviously the two gallon pot is a limiting factor on that one. fool's gold has some canoeing sugar leaves and some yellowing with red spots in the canopy, oddly the affected leaves are also turning a beautiful reddish purple, or maybe a purplish red. here's a pic of that- sides of some of her upper sugar leaves are purple at the edges as well. I got three plants going purple, if the fool's gold is legit than it's big bud x skunk, so it wouldn't make a lot of sense. I tried to check the min/max but had to reset my thermometer so I won't know til tomorrow what the night temps are. does anybody know what's going on with those leaves?
midnight kush has a couple of spots on her leaves and what appears to be "the claw" but still probably the healthiest. Just like the breeder's description-"she produces almighty rock hard resinous buds. She has a tendency to go a fantastic midnight purple colour in cold conditions."- she's doing that exactly! a lot of leaves are looking like the dark purple in her photo. I wonder if I got super lucky with the pheno, so next round will include all 3 remaining midnight kush beans. my next seed order will probably include some g13 labs again, since they described this one so perfectly
brazil amazonia has some red spots and dying crispy lower leaves, with slight yellowing, probably partially related to her proximity to the oscillating fan.

my last couple of waterings have been just straight water. I'm guessing some of these problems are ph related, I know every strain's different and it's not the best that I usually water them with the same water though they're different strains, but on my first time, I'm learning a lot no matter what, I'm learning burmese kush likes a little more nitrogen at least, and that I probably should have kept giving veg nutes for a little longer into 12/12 than I did. I'm also learning that midnight kush seems to be pretty happy with the low end of recommended amounts on the biocanna line in every watering with an added 4ml/gal of general organics ca mg+. the ppm is usually around 700-750, I'm very precise when I mix water.
it's day 47 since the flip, it'll be 7 weeks on wednesday so I'm thinking some of these are gonna finish soon enough that I should start the flush anyway on some plants.

breeder's advertised finishing times from attitude (with user submitted finishing times from seedfinder in parentheses)-
starbud-8 weeks (60 days)
burmese kush-7 1/2 weeks (60 days)
fool's gold-55 days (none submitted)
midnight kush- "medium" (65-75 days)
brazil amazonia- 75-90 days (95 days)

I think fool's gold is gonna go longer, but pretty much every pistil on midnight kush is orange, I highly doubt that she needs 3 more weeks

I wonder...


group-
starbud-
burmese kush-
fool's gold-
midnight kush-
brazil amazonia-

midnight kush showing off for the macro camera

Just put 9 seeds in rockwool under a 2 foot 2 bulb t5ho and the 36 watt purple kessil-
3 th seeds "the hog" regular
2 g13 labs midnight kush fem
2 world of seeds colombian gold reg
1 world of seeds brazil amazonia reg
1 top tao seeds autoflower, just because I'm not gonna do anything else with it, can just leave it on the side in the veg tent for fun and maybe an extra ounce.

group of flowers-

starbud flowers-

burmese kush-

fool's gold-

midnight kush-

brazil amazonia-


that midnight kush is starting to get there, I swear!

Looking great in there @borbor I've found these lights take a few days off published breeder times, always finish faster than my LED's by a few days, not long to go for some of the earlier finishing strains. Not sure which strains have those yellowing leaves but could be fading if they're far enough in, does look like they're lacking nitrogen. Otherwise some nice looking bud coming up

Thanks @GroErr! I've read you and others say these lights tend to finish plants a little faster, I always kind of assumed it was "faster than hps" rather than "faster than advertised" since I figure most finishing times are probably a bit shorter in general than what should be expected. I guess it might not be all marketing!

Getting really close with the midnight kush, I'm always tempted, but I wanna make sure she gets a good flush, and wanna see if the lower nugs will mature any more, there's less of the purpling and more white pistils farther down.

a lot of the seeds are pushing the top of the rockwool, but no "seedlings" yet.

I run a JTR that is advertised as an 8 week strain but typically pull it around 52-54 days under CMH and will go 56-58 under LED's. Pheno's can vary but typically I'm pulling them within or shorter than the advertised finish time.

Chopping in two hours when the lights come on! I'm sure she should be okay to chop, running out of the blue kush! Just realized "crap! I've been smoking nothing but blunts!" I just weighed what I have left, 5.5 grams, which fills the jar about 25%, when the initial harvest filled up two jars when it was still pretty wet, so if I had to make a guess at the autoflower's yield I'd say 30-35 grams, chopped early. I don't regret it, the main event is just beginning!

can't wait to see the tent once there's only 4 plants in there, One of the lessons I learned on this first round is what it means to overcrowd the area. my new rule is gonna be one plant per square foot, always in 7 gallon pots.

Got some seedlings! two of the hog from th seeds are bona fide seedlings with cotyledons. most of the others are pushing the top of the rockwool. they're under 48 watts of t5ho and the 36 watt blurple kessil.

got a little spooked today and moved some stuff around
the midnight kush doesn't seem to be drying very fast, and temps have been cold around here, my room's definitely the coldest in the house. I was worried they wouldn't do well crammed together in my tiny 16"x16"x48" tent, so I had them trade spots with the seedlings. No use having seedlings if it molds every time you try to harvest! The fan in that tent doesn't do much either, like 67 cfm or something.

so now the midnight kush is in the 2x4 tent to dry, the only downside is that I can't fit the t5 fixture in the smaller tent so I'm just using the kessil on the seeds right now. I'll definitely get something better figured out before I get the next plant cut down.