First Grow! Sealed/Closed Room, 2400 watts, CO2, Mini-Split AC, SmartPots, Dehum!
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xivex
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Thanks Daniels!
I have burnt them some so its always encouraging to hear they still look good from someone more knowledgable. Glad to see your still here!I'm planning on taking 2 clones per plant next week sometime (probably later in the week)... then give them about a week to recover from that ordeal and throw the plants into flower, and clones into veg (assuming they are rooted in a week... but I have high hopes for my ez-clone machine's first run), and let the cycling begin!
After I've dried and cured the first batch and tested the various plants flower's I'll probably drop the clones that aren't top notch and didn't produce top yields from the group..but for now I'm planning on flowering the entire set through at least the first 2 flower cycles..
Sound like a good plan?
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Shrubs First
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Great setup, I have such a similar one. I'm hoping to add that extra 600W to put me at 2400W.
How well does your 9000btu Ductless handle it? Think my 12,000Watt would do it easy?
How well does your 9000btu Ductless handle it? Think my 12,000Watt would do it easy?
xivex
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Thanks for the compliment ShrubsFirst!
To be honest, I haven't run all the lights in the room at once yet. But my 9000 Btu ductless is handling the flouro and 2 veg lights fine. Stick around, I'm gonna take clones next week and get things going on veg and flower all at once so we'll see!
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nugbuckets
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Looking good bro.....nice space, I have seen a few knee-walled attic/storage grow spaces before....and yours is by far the best built. I am growing Barneys' Red Dragon, and I am about as far as you. Check out my digs.....sub'ed your grow..Peace, Nugs.
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Bonzi Lighthouse
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I love my ezcloner, 100% success rate, pulling 8 out tomorrow to put in soil.Thanks Daniels!
I'm planning on taking 2 clones per plant next week sometime (probably later in the week)... then give them about a week to recover from that ordeal and throw the plants into flower, and clones into veg (assuming they are rooted in a week... but I have high hopes for my ez-clone machine's first run), and let the cycling begin!
After I've dried and cured the first batch and tested the various plants flower's I'll probably drop the clones that aren't top notch and didn't produce top yields from the group..but for now I'm planning on flowering the entire set through at least the first 2 flower cycles..
Sound like a good plan?
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What gel and solution are you going to use?
xivex
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Wow, thanks man! I'm honored... I'll have to stop by your journal and take a peek..
Good question!! I'm glad you asked!
I was thinking (and correct me if I'm wrong here) that I should use my newly acquired House & Garden Roots Excelerater for the solution in the cloner. What do I pH the ez-cloner to? 5.5 pH? Not sure about aeroponics/hydro pH stuff yet.. As for the gel, I'm using Clonex. I also have a bottle of Root 66 if that matters, but I think now I'll be using the H&G and skip the Root 66. What do you think?
Bonzi Lighthouse
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Sounds good. I use straight tap water that has sat out.
xivex
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Good to know! I was wondering if I should use it or the RO water. What about adding Silica to help prevent disease/fungus? Thinking about adding 1 tsp/gal of that stuff too.
Oh ya, how long do you leave yours in for before transplanting to soil? 1 week or 2 weeks?
Thanks,
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Bonzi Lighthouse
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7 - 10 days, any longer and i have to cut the net pots. In 10 day not really long enough to develop disease/fungus so I have never worried about it, plus I keep everything pretty clean.
I'm transplanting tomorrow and will post pics in my thread.
I'm transplanting tomorrow and will post pics in my thread.
legallyflying
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Dude. Don't add shit to your clone water. Ph to 6.0. Once they start developing roots you can add a tiny dash of flower nutes and some kind of b1. Don't add any nitrogn. Nitrogen will interefere eith the production of rooting hormone.
You could transfer at 7 days but I would let the roots go gang busters first. Why are I using net pots in an easy clone? Wouldn't you just use the collars?
You could transfer at 7 days but I would let the roots go gang busters first. Why are I using net pots in an easy clone? Wouldn't you just use the collars?
Shrubs First
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I root using rhizotonic, mayan microzyme, some hygrozyme. I get bumper roots around
8 day mark. Why so against additives, the whole point is to stimulate root growth. If all you're
adding is stimulants you should be fine. No soluble ferts though.
Bonzi Lighthouse
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Clonex rooting soluition and Clonex Rooting Compound, easy game.
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xivex
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OK, I can certainly pH to 6.0, but why so against the additives? I Have heard H&G root execleurator is bananas! Its supposed to be the best rooter on the market bar none, hands down. I'm excited to try it. Urban Garden's the "Tao of Aeroponic Cuttings" suggests they got the best results using their ez-cloner on a pump cycler 30 on/30 off while using only tap water and H&G's root execleurator. Also, I am skipping net pots and using just the collars..don't think I need the net pots...we will see..
Yeah those sound good. I have hygrozyme, clonex hormone gel, root 66, and H&G roots exceleurator. Probably just gonna use tap water and H&G for this first time..also dipping into clonex gel. But none are soluble ferts, all are liquid, low dose additives. Not strong in NPK..
Sweet pics!
PS -- the babies are looking friggin humongous now. They are coming up on 6 weeks now and I added 2 Tbsp more Mycoryhzae spores to each pot last night by shoving a large screwdriver into the soil about 6" and wiggling a hole in 4-5 spots around the container and pouring a couple teaspoons into each hole and watering over it. I'll post pics in a couple more days, maybe Monday....I'll bet they are gigantic by then!!
Thanks everyone for the help!!! Makes it way more fun!!
Shrubs First
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Roots Excel is supposed to be really nice, a more concentrated Rhizotonic. Rhizo is also
great for cloning, it just raises the pH so much. Drives me nuts when I'm not using other
ferts to help bring it down.
great for cloning, it just raises the pH so much. Drives me nuts when I'm not using other
ferts to help bring it down.
legallyflying
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I only said don't add shit as he wad going to add silica. For the record, silca makes stems and to a less extent, leaves thicker. That is the primary function. It does nothing to combat disease.
Anywho, yeah you can add all sorts of shit to your clone mixture. I use clonex gel when I take the cuttings and use plain ol water with like 3 drops of superthrive. Hydrozyme (fucking expensive source of enzymes BTW) and "super mondo root expolsion excelarator" is fine but completely unneccessary. Your plants at the stage are certainly not going to suffer from some sort of ezyme related nutrient difficuency.
I would rather spend that money on strippers.
If your not into strippers, then buy a really nice aerating setup for your mixing Rez.
Anywho, yeah you can add all sorts of shit to your clone mixture. I use clonex gel when I take the cuttings and use plain ol water with like 3 drops of superthrive. Hydrozyme (fucking expensive source of enzymes BTW) and "super mondo root expolsion excelarator" is fine but completely unneccessary. Your plants at the stage are certainly not going to suffer from some sort of ezyme related nutrient difficuency.
I would rather spend that money on strippers.
If your not into strippers, then buy a really nice aerating setup for your mixing Rez.
Shrubs First
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Hygrozyme is the most diverse and concentrated.
xivex
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Thats it...I'm using Hygrozyme and Roots Excel! Bwahaha
Thanks for the comments guys!
Bonzi Lighthouse
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Hygrozyme is Serious Cat Approved
xivex
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Serious Cat looks .... serious.
So today I prepared the EZ-CLONER. I filled it with 6.5 gallons of tap water, pH'd to 6.0pH after adding 6mL/gallon of Hygrozyme and 1.1 mL/gallon of H&G Roots Excel (I know I know.. how the fuck can you eyeball 0.1 mL...fucking gay measurement but whatever..)...that Roots Excel shit is stinky dark brown thick liquid. It stained my fucking eyedropper..lol. Seriously even after a thorough washing the inside of my eyedropper now has a light brown tint to it whereas before it was perfectly clear despite other ferts..amusing.
Anyhow I got the EZ-CLONER setup and running just perfect. I heard the pH tends to ramble for the first 48-72 hrs of running it after a new fill, so I set it out on the counter and plan to leave it running for 2-3 days before inserting clones. I'll pH check it again after 2 days, then again the day of cloning before inserting the new cuttings. So now that all this crap is out of the way I plan on taking cuttings in the next couple of days...by this weekend at the absolute latest. Any last minute tips?
Here's my plan...
1) sterlize myself and my prep area
2) use new sterile razor blade dipped in alcohol and allowed to dry to take two 3-5" cuttings from each plant (aim for new growth, right?)
3) immediately dip fresh cutting into Clonex Gel (in a shot glass, NOT from the jar)
4) prune off excess leaves/branches from the cutting
5) insert cutting into ez-cloner
6) label ez-cloner sites to keep track of which cutting is from which plant
7) Run in ez-cloner for about 7-10 days and then transplant into 3 gal smart pots and start the next cycle of LSD!
Any last minute tips or suggestions? Does my plan sounds okay?
Thanks everyone!
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