ayr0n
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Really interested to see how these girls grow differently being under HPS from the start vs. starting under MH like the others
First Grow In 6 Years - Chemdog, Berry Ryder, Northern Lights
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Sativied
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I use my HPS as heating 9 out of 12 months too. I think you 'liked' hence read my post yesterday about switching day and night to deal with cold nights, perhaps something to consider for next time. Doesn't have to be the exact opposite.
You should perhaps look into one of those 350-ish watts bulbs some people are testing, like @GroErr.
ayr0n
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Yeah making the dark period during the day is going to be essential if I want to do photo plants cuz I can't leave the exhaust off for 12 hours lmao. Gonna try to time it out so some of the light period is during a time I can work with them when I pop these GGG seeds >D
Considering producing some seeds on my next run with the bastard series seeds from GGG. Just gonna pick out 1 healthy male and 1 healthy female n let em fornicate in my tent...should have plenty of bud from this first batch to make it through a seed run I hope lol.
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ayr0n
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Thanks boss - I'm trying
I'm going to have to accredit any success in this grow to @polo the don and @Sativied since they've held my hand thru this whole thing lol
polo the don
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I agree about "lazy root syndrome", not saying that's what's happening here, but is makes perfect sense. When I grow autos I always have a good wet/dry cycle. Of course not desert dry but dry enough to MAKE my roots seek out water, in other words, create a larger network. More roots, more fruits.
Sativied knows his roots. I was trying to find a pic he posted of his root system from his homemade tubes that was just awesome.
@Sativied where is that pic?
Sativied knows his roots. I was trying to find a pic he posted of his root system from his homemade tubes that was just awesome.
@Sativied where is that pic?
ayr0n
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lmao I saw that too it was insane - here it is: http://rollitup.org/t/sativieds-picture-journal.831229/page-5#post-10741189
polo the don
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Yea that's the one. That shits a trip ain't it.
ayr0n
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ayr0n
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Well it's only the very bottom set of leaves that's yellowing on the ends - single blade ones...Might not be a big deal but idk. Plants were still droopy (almost lifeless) and the pots were extremely light - took a closer look and all the medium in the smart pots was bone dry 
Instead of watering from the top I tried dipping the pots in water this time n let em soak it up from the bottom. Hoping this promotes a stronger network of roots and it gave me a better idea of what they feel like dry versus when they have water in em...took pics right before the soak and I'll take a couple here in several hours to see if they perk back up. I'm gonna say they were deprived of water due to me only watering the solo cups last time and not the smart pots. They're drinking a lot faster than before. Gonna have to watch a little closer from now on.
Since I was way overwatering in the beginning this was the first time I've actually seen them underwatered. Probably not great for em but at least I know what to look for now.
Instead of watering from the top I tried dipping the pots in water this time n let em soak it up from the bottom. Hoping this promotes a stronger network of roots and it gave me a better idea of what they feel like dry versus when they have water in em...took pics right before the soak and I'll take a couple here in several hours to see if they perk back up. I'm gonna say they were deprived of water due to me only watering the solo cups last time and not the smart pots. They're drinking a lot faster than before. Gonna have to watch a little closer from now on.Since I was way overwatering in the beginning this was the first time I've actually seen them underwatered. Probably not great for em but at least I know what to look for now.
polo the don
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Now that your using hps they will drink more. Also another thing to consider is that your keeping your tent warmer, and there hittin the stretch they will drink more. Letting your pots dry out is important, especially with autos, but root damage can happen if too dry. Like you said, now you know what a dry pot feels like.Well it's only the very bottom set of leaves that's yellowing on the ends - single blade ones...Might not be a big deal but idk. Plants were still droopy (almost lifeless) and the pots were extremely light - took a closer look and all the medium in the smart pots was bone dry
Since I was way overwatering in the beginning this was the first time I've actually seen them underwatered. Probably not great for em but at least I know what to look for now.
Speaking of stretch, I find it better to keep feeding veg nutes at least until they stop stretching. For me if I start bloom nutes too soon I get more stretch. Personally, I use bloom nutes sparingly.
ayr0n
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Even tho they didn't perk back up yet (hasn't been long enough) I did notice they look a helluva lot healthier...the leaves seem to have a much "fuller" green to them. IDK how to explain it but the word "lush" comes to mind. Thinking they were getting a little too much light and heat after swapping the bulb out for an HPS and raising the light yesterday appears to have been a good thing...
I don't have a real good selection of nutes right now...basically an all purpose 3-3-3 (http://drearth.net/products/liquid-fertilizers/liquid-solution™-all-purpose-fertilizer-concentrate/) and then that organic dr earth shit...I linked you the wrong ones earlier - this is what was used for the compost tea: http://drearth.net/products/organic-fertilizers/organic-8-bud-bloom-booster/
Should I just keep running the 3-3-3 for a couple more feedings before using that 4-10-7? I was thinking about just using water again next watering and then hitting them lightly with nutes again on the following one...
Sativied
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Not a big deal at all. Those are just to get the plant from seedling stage to vegging. After that they are handy for perceptive growers to detect possible problems early
polo the don
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I looked at that 3-3-3, I looks good. They don't really list macro nutrients amounts, but your in soil and that might make up any shortfalls from that nute. I've never done a serious grow in soil so idk.
You will soon see just simple this stuff is to grow.
He'll I've done a few start to finish with nothing more than Alaska brand ferts in cheap soil, just to see how it would do and it did better than the ones I was doing in pro mix and GH 3-part.
It don't take all that fancy stuff to grow this. I use Dyna-Gro now and love it, so simple.
ayr0n
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Crazy how much these things change in such a short period of time...Here's a 10 day and 20 day change starting from 7-12 until today (8-1):
The Berry Ryder #1 from the top image (7-12) is the same one in the top left corner of the bottom image (8-1) - LST'd her a bit n she's got 9 tops developing flowers right now only 20 days after being on her 2nd set of true leaves...autos are crazy af.
The Berry Ryder #1 from the top image (7-12) is the same one in the top left corner of the bottom image (8-1) - LST'd her a bit n she's got 9 tops developing flowers right now only 20 days after being on her 2nd set of true leaves...autos are crazy af.
polo the don
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Wow!
Autos= pedal to the metal.
I love autos. I like to see that daily change.
Autos= pedal to the metal.
I love autos. I like to see that daily change.
polo the don
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Your acting like a proud new dad.
You deserve it. Just wait till you have your first smoke from your own garden. No feeling like it.
You deserve it. Just wait till you have your first smoke from your own garden. No feeling like it.
ayr0n
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Lmao for real tho. Can't wait. Hopefully the dry / cure goes smoothly...heard a lot of horror stories where ppls grow goes perfect n then they Fuck up the dry or cure n ruin the whole harvest
polo the don
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When I first started growing the dry/cure was the part I worried about the most. It scared me. It's not as bad as you think. The main thing is to not over dry the buds. If you jar them up too soon, you can always take them back out and dry more but once there too dry that's it, you can add moisture back in but the cure is fucked.
I seen that you read my water cureing thread. It's different but fast. Good for a sample. I do a small portion of every harvest for stealth smoking. I even have one costumer that prefers water cure so I always do some for her too.
I'm sure you have done some reading about drying and curing, and after a couple harvests you will have it down. It's a "feel" thing that can only come from experience.
ayr0n
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Was thinking about rocking the boveda 62% packs after the buds are somewhat dry on the outside but moist on the inside, throw a hygrometer n a couple jars n watch em pretty close. Read like 15 tutorials on it, but I'm sure actually doing it and understanding how to do it are a little different lol.