I have had this contention sense Dutch Passion made the first "feminized seeds"!
All together too many seed producers will post something like this from Sensi Seeds.
"All plants grown from the feminized strains sold on this website will be genetically female."
This is bull shit! Here's another breeder's take on feminized seeds and that 100% female BS!
"Now we've covered how they are made... we still have to cover WHY and If it
works.
When I am making reversed lines, there is only one reason I do it. It is NOT to
make it easier for a person to produce an entirely female crop(I'll explain more
later on why this isn't a concern) - I do it to produce a pure line (IE:
Selfing) or if I want to cross a specific line to another and there are no
available males from one of the lines (IE - crossing 2 different clone-onlies).
Essentially I do it to keep lines as true to the clones and selections I've
made.
Why do I not think it's a concern in this situation to try to make an all female
line? Because it can't be guaranteed to always be female and not produce males.
Sexual expression is 50% determined by environment. I don't know how everyone's
grow room is that buys my gear...I don't know how they feed, I don't know what
temp it is, I don't know what medium, etc... There is no way to guarantee the
sexual expression of a plant when 50% of the determining variables are out of
our control. And it's not just us, it's any seed company that can't factor in
all of those variables. It really is as simple as that. there are certain
things you can do to increase the likelihood through chemicals after a flower is
blooming (in the case of cannabis, use ethephon or dutch master reverse -
ethylene is the opposite of gibberelins - kinda like how estrogen is the
opposite of testosterone).
So...in the end... who is right? Neither. Both are retards."
So? Who is this guy to say that the big seed producers are wrong? He right! That's why!
I have myself, in the past. Had males come from "Feminized" seeds twice (2 times). I never gave it a second thought! I mean, I know that environment lakes a difference in final plant sex determination!
If you keep your seedling at over 80 deg F. You have far better chances of more females to males over 70/30 female to male! IF, your seedling area temps are low 70's......You are going to be 50/50 and not do much if at all better!
Now the chance for a male from feminized is increased by those same little temp rules!
I popped 5 seeds from Mephisto Genetics. Skywalker OG AUTO FEM seeds.
3 seeds are growing out perfectly normal! (No, your right, I'm not a fan of auto seeds. I thought it might be fun to accept the offer of free seeds and run them along side others doing the same. After all I was just getting fired back up, so why not!
1 seed had a dual embryo and I slip the seedlings carefully, just to see what they would do. (They are not growing at the rate of the normal plants and 1 is very small and will produce no more then about a blunt's worth.
The last seed popped and is pictured here as a growing plant in a 1 gallon pot.
It is 100% natural, ball dropping MALE! Now it's 3 times I have had this happen! ALL of the times I was popping and developing the seedlings in a cooler environment of 70-72 day and and 65 nights! When I got MALES from "feminized" seeds!
Pics for plant size and BALL porn!
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BALLS - 100% full on MALE from "feminized seeds"!!!
Us old guys are trying to set the record straight for ya!
No such thing as 100% females from "feminized" seeds!
I have NO use for ruderalis genetics in a pollen, so this one is outa here!
Now before you begin any comment on herming of fem seeds...I'll say this -
Herming was a problem in the old days. The plant was stressed to make it throw "Banana's" that would pollinate blooms and make unstable "female" seeds!
This process is NOT used any more.
Chemical or hormone induced "selfing" (a better term for feminizing) of a plant will make the plant actually "turn" male where treated...It throws actual balls! This produces stable and very consistent 99.9% female seeds. just keep in mind that cool upbringing of seedlings can give you a male from selfed seeds!
Happy trails!
12/12?? I don't run 12/12 and see no connection between lighting times and sex.. Just confused by that single comment....
