Father arrested for DUI drugs, endangerment

BeaverHuntr

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That will happen when you drive around with expired tags card holder or not make sure your shit is in order before you hit the road.
 

Azweepei

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Really?? Pipe out in plain view? Admitting to ingesting? *sigh* how many times must it be said... Nothing, and I meanNOTHING good will come from talking to police. STFU! Anything you say can AND WILL be used against you in a court of law.
 

HB DC

Active Member

"The man largely passed his field sobriety tests and the officer called his supervisor for the proper course of action."

"Charges are pending the results of the blood test."

I bet this man will walk....
 

jjlongo

Active Member
Never talk to the police - as soon as the conversation moves beyond License, Registration and Proof of Insurance. Ask if you are being detained, if you are not being detained request to go on your way. Nothing good can come from a conversation with a police officer, nothing.

You have no obligation to tell him/her where you have been or where you are going, what you have done, or what you plan on doing.

It will be uncomfortable, but it is always the best bet.

He/she will probably write you some stupid fucking ticket anyway, but in the end this is the best way to protect yourself and to flex your Constitutional rights. When it is over, you will feel much better about yourself.

A bit corny, but on point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVx0NpYbtus
 

Samwell Seed Well

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That will happen when you drive around with expired tags card holder or not make sure your shit is in order before you hit the road.
not a reasonable excuse

i know your just saying it how it is, but to except this as reality is to condone it


do you get taken to jail for having a xanax prescription as a delusional schizo who may or may not and manic attack at any min

nope

does a guy on heart medication get his license stripped cause he might have a heart attack nope

please please please for fucks sake

have an appropriate response to this kind of Orwellian BS
 

BeaverHuntr

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not a reawsonbl exuse

i know yur just saying it how it is, but to except this as reality is to condone it

Chances are the guy would have most likely not been pulled over had his tags not been expired. The guy was stopped for one reason.... EXPIRED TAGS. Once pulled over for "expired tags" they noticed the pipe and what not. The guy committed a traffic violation and gave the police a reason to pull him over.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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show me any science that points to pot and bad driving

other then that, you are a part of the problem

to arbitrary take away anyone rights for some political BS to get more money out of people

"The man largely passed his field sobriety tests and the officer called his supervisor for the proper course of action. The suspect was handcuffed and taken to the Coconino County Detention Facility where officers performed a blood draw. The man was cited and released for DUI, DUI drugs and felony aggravated DUI for driving with a passenger under the age of 15. The man's daughter was picked up by his mother-in-law."

felony DUI for traveling with his daughter who isd under 15 (who is dependent on his care)


give me a break . . are you a cop? beaver cause only those who have been brainwashed to think pot is bad give people DUIs for smell alone or think is justified to do so? guys car was impounded, his duaghter was taken by strangers and held . . . this is BS Orwellian big brother BS
 

BeaverHuntr

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show me any science that points to pot and bad driving

other then that, you are a part of the problem

to arbitrary take away anyone rights for some political BS to get more money out of people

"The man largely passed his field sobriety tests and the officer called his supervisor for the proper course of action. The suspect was handcuffed and taken to the Coconino County Detention Facility where officers performed a blood draw. The man was cited and released for DUI, DUI drugs and felony aggravated DUI for driving with a passenger under the age of 15. The man's daughter was picked up by his mother-in-law."


give me a break . . are you a cop? beaver cause only those who have been brainwashed to think pot is bad give people DUIs for smell alone or think is justified to do so? guys car was impounded, his duaghter was taken by strangers and held . . . this is BS Orwellian big brother BS
DUde I said nothing about pot..I hear you on the pot laws loud and clear and I agree it's bull shit to the 10th power, but the way things are as of today its best to make sure you have your ducks in a row when traveling with cannabis. Would you travel with cannabis with one of your head lights out?? If you would then you're a fucking a idiot. And no I'm not a cop are you? I have met several people who post on this message board. Tell your friend we all feel for him but next time to make sure he isnt driving on expired tags which is a automatic ticket for any driver MMJ cardholder or not. Sorry I know a little about traffic laws because I do drive on a daily basis.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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no i disagree, the dogma around use needs to go

ya ill travel with my headlights out, im not a victim, of the law, i do what i know is right, i dont go oh ya that law is bs then nod my head in approval when someone else gets fucked by it

i have integrity, i dont have fair weather opinions

"An Arizona Medical Marijuana Act card holder was arrested on Wednesday night after police stopped his vehicle and smelled marijuana inside."

im not even goign to argue with you , your a fool, imho, to agree its a fucked situation then go , but he should have known better

if tis wrong its wrong if its right its right, you sound like you woudl be cool with any law as long as you dont get caught

the real problem here in adult world is that the law is fucked

ill say it again, does someone with a cold get a DUI for having a niqul bottle in purse(open)

or someone with anxiety with zanax

or the guy with chronic pain who takes opiates at night
the reason why they cant is that its unconstitutional

correlation is not causation

dont be the problem be the solution stop being a pre and post victim all at once and start standing up for what right, or you are just whats wrong if you think society is the victim hear and that the cop is in the right


their are laws the inhibit us from having to tell anyone our medical conditions or treatment
 

Samwell Seed Well

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show me any situation where just having a valid prescription is warrant to DUI and felony upgrade

for a non moving violation traffic stop!

no proirs,that we know of, he didnt resist or inhibit arrest, sounds like he cooperated, passed most of not all of his field sobriety test

and was being a dad, not some dead beat officer who works 60 hours a week . i mean wtf

in a atmosphere of legalization and decriminalization . . .this kind of minority report, pre cog crime or assumption of crime committed without evidence is complete BS and deserves to frowned upon as well as discouraged . . . .
 

BeaverHuntr

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no i disagree, the dogma around use needs to go

ya ill travel with my headlights out, im not a victim, of the law, i do what i know is right, i dont go oh ya thaqt law is bs then nod my head inapproval my head when someone else gets fucked by it

i have integrity, i dont have fair weather opinions

"An Arizona Medical Marijuana Act card holder was arrested on Wednesday night after police stopped his vehicle and smelled marijuana inside."

im not even goign to argue with you , your a fool, imho, to agree its a fucked situation then go , but he should have known better

if tis wrong its wrong if its right its right, you sound like you woudl be cool with any law as long as you dont get caught

the real problem here in adult world is that the law is fucked

ill say it again, does someone with a cold get a DUI for having a niqul bottle in purse(open)

or someone with anxiety with zanax

or the guy with chronic pain who takes opiates at night
the reason why they cant is that its unconstitutional

correlation is not causation

dont be the problem be the solution stop being a pre and post victim all at once and start standing up for what right, or you are just whats wrong if you think societ yis the victim hear and that the cop is in the right
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Of course you only hear and read what you want to hear and read.....

The 22-year-old Flagstaff man was driving about 5 mph under the speed limit along North Nyla Drive on the east side of the city when he was stopped for driving with registration tags that expired in January.

Show me a scenario where driving with expired tags turns out good, please show me and the rest of the world. No one is disagreeing with the fact that the MMJ law sucks and the dude past his field sobriety test. I guess in your eyes no one should have to have a MMJ card to keep their ass out of jail because people can buy nyquil over the counter, meanwhile just about everyone who posts in this thread has a MMJ card to "stay legal"... The solution to the problem is dont drive with expired tags dumb dumb... I guess you think its cool to drive all over the place with no car insurance too.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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do you not understand what a none moving violation is

mandatory insurance is a socialist trap, if you cant trust yourself to drive and not get into accidents, police yourself dont drive

and if you cant afford to pay to fix a car you hit, then you probably shouldn't be driving or owning car

in some nations health care is free,or close too, no one gets punished for lifes happenstances


but back to the non moving violation that was bumped to a felony DUI for no, paraphernalia no smoke and no indication what so ever of impairment as he passed is test
 

BeaverHuntr

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do you not understand what a none moving violation is
Yeah when a cop runs your plate and notices your tags are expired he usually pulls you over and writes you a ticket for a "non moving violation" same things happen when you drive with no insurance. Do you understand its illegal to drive on Arizona road ways with expired tags?
 

Samwell Seed Well

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your comparative story is someone getting moving violation

are you able to stay within the parameters of the conversation

NM to argue with a fool . . . . . .

Yeah when a cop runs your plate and notices your tags are expired he usually pulls you over and writes you a ticket for a "non moving violation" same things happen when you drive with no insurance. Do you understand its illegal to drive on Arizona road ways with expired tags?

yes i do, is it felony? nope!

was their any at al indication of DUI, nope

every cop in the US knows that smell is not indication of any other then smell, correlation is not causation(its called logic)

are you a cop, or a cop wannabe, do you obey every asinine law . . . .i bet you dont which means you arbitraliy choose what laws to follow at the time . .. . you sir a walking contradiction. Or you are a Cop
 

fatboyOGOF

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i'm sorry but how fucking stupid do you have to be. smoking pot while moving is just flat out stupid . doing so with a kid is retarded. oddly enough, cops don't like smelling burnt pot in a vehicle.

act like a responsible adult and smoke in private or suffer the possible consequences. stupid fuck. it will be just one more example for the wild ones to scream about why we need to vote again.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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no report of smoking, in the article

how many fucking times do i have to repeat one of the most basic logical principles . . . . . .

correlation is not causation, smell does not equal smoking while driving

and their are ZERO studies to show that being high is at all detrimental to driving experience


talk about act like a responsible adult, try not piggeon holeing the world because of a few people who cant handle themselves or responsibly use, this is a individual issue not a blanket problem, thats why since I502 no increase in MJ DUIs has been shown

you can hyperventilate to the point of being to high

will breathing to fast now be a crime while driving
 

fatboyOGOF

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hi sam.

i used to do the yogic breath of fire to get high back in the 70s. nice buzz. :)

i'm 58. i've been smoking since 69. i'm with you with all the what's right and just etc.. doesn't meant the cops and politicians who give them their marching orders won't fuck with us.

the fact is, this is az, and we might very well lose our medical pot rights next vote. we won them by a few hundred votes. a few hundred out of 100s of thousands of votes.

a pot card in this state is not a get out of jail free card. we have dummies who think it is. hopefully they won't breed much.


you like seeds sam? me too. :)

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