Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

homebrewer · Mar 27, 2012

alienrain said:
So it's important to add protekt first to the water and then the other nutes to bring the ph to the desired level of 6.5-6.7? And then from there just watch the plant and see if it needs more or less?

I shoot for low 6's for my pH in promix. Yes, watch the plant and take notes of what you fed, how much and when. If a couple mls per gallon is not enough food or too much, your plants won't show it immediately. Your tap water also has a bearing on your plant health. Hard water makes it hard for you to keep a plant green and healthy until harvest.

Also should the schedule just switch off with feed, water, feed, water?

I feed, feed, water generally but I do not stick to that. I never need to water with plain water twice in a row. Usually I'll feed and watch the plant. At the next watering I have two choices which are to feed or to use plain water. If I feed again, I know next time I need to probably use plain water. If I chose to use tap water, I know next time I'll probably need to feed. Knowing how much to feed and when is a skill. Knowing when your plant needs liquid is another skill one needs to master. Letting your pot dry out too much or not letting it dry out enough can both cause issues. I suppose a 'green thumb' is just knowing when your plant could use a drink.

unohu69 · Mar 27, 2012

Another example, need LIKE.

I have found low 6's in promix is great for me also. I feed the same way HB does, feed, feed, water, maybe water then feed. whatever the plants tell me. I have also found my PM's are extremely low, i think, last feeding 2ml protekt, 2ml grow, 260 PPM? I think it was, at 6.1 ph. the plants seem to be super healthy, and doing well.

dickkhead · Mar 27, 2012

yea in my promix ive been feeding 1/2 tsp/gal everyother watering. I never have checked ph cause the guy from dyna gro said it has a high ph range and not to worry cause the plants will utilize it. my plants are flourishing more then ever. cant wait to try it with hp aero

lerster · Mar 29, 2012

hey HB, what is the ratio you mix grow and bloom to get a 1-3-2?
I tried to do the conversion you posted on this thread but i keep coming up with high numbers...
I got the grow which is 7-9-5 and the bloom which is 3-12-6, I tried to do 1:2 but the end I get 4.3-11-5.6...am I missing something?

homebrewer · Mar 29, 2012

lerster said:
hey HB, what is the ratio you mix grow and bloom to get a 1-3-2?

I like that ratio for hydro. Promix seems to need a little more N in my experience. To answer your question, 20-25% grow seems to be enough for me to get to about a 1-3-1.5 ratio. With protekt (0-0-3) added in there, maybe you're looking at closer to a 1-3-2 at that point.

I tried to do the conversion you posted on this thread but i keep coming up with high numbers...
I got the grow which is 7-9-5 and the bloom which is 3-12-6, I tried to do 1:2 but the end I get 4.3-11-5.6...am I missing something?

This comment was added after I responded. Your NPK numbers above equals a 1-2.5-1.3 ratio which is totally fine. The 1-3-2 ratio isn't a hardfast rule for me as the amount of grow I mix in during the first three weeks of flower is greater than the amount that I add during the last three weeks. The leaves will tell you what to do. Don't read those leaves too carefully though, it seems lately people are getting too sensitive to each-and-every spot or color variation or shape of their leaves. Look at the entire plant to determine if you're doing a good job.

lerster · Mar 29, 2012

homebrewer said:
I like that ratio for hydro. Promix seems to need a little more N in my experience. To answer your question, 20-25% grow seems to be enough for me to get to about a 1-3-1.5 ratio. With protekt (0-0-3) added in there, maybe you're looking at closer to a 1-3-2 at that point.

This comment was added after I responded. Your NPK numbers above equals a 1-2.5-1.3 ratio which is totally fine. The 1-3-2 ratio isn't a hardfast rule for me as the amount of grow I mix in during the first three weeks of flower is greater than the amount that I add during the last three weeks. The leaves will tell you what to do. Don't read those leaves too carefully though, it seems lately people are getting too sensitive to each-and-every spot or color variation or shape of their leaves. Look at the entire plant to determine if you're doing a good job.

Thank You HomeBrewer

dickkhead · Apr 9, 2012

home brewer im searching your thread but i cant find it. whats your feed schedule from satrt to finish in the pro mix using dyna gro nutes? do you use hygrozyme, or any kind of enzyme or reccomend it? thanks hb

Kite High · Apr 9, 2012

dickkhead said:
home brewer im searching your thread but i cant find it. whats your feed schedule from satrt to finish in the pro mix using dyna gro nutes? do you use hygrozyme, or any kind of enzyme or reccomend it? thanks hb

because there is no feed schedule...the plants tell you what that is...jus sayin

homebrewer · Apr 9, 2012

dickkhead said:
home brewer im searching your thread but i cant find it. whats your feed schedule from satrt to finish in the pro mix using dyna gro nutes? do you use hygrozyme, or any kind of enzyme or reccomend it? thanks hb

Kite High is correct. Enviroment, strain, water, lighting, etc. can all play a role in how much you feed a plant. Start off with 1.5mls/gallon of grow in veg and work from there.

In regards to the enzyme products, they're not needed.

Trichy Bastard · Apr 10, 2012

Kite High said:
because there is no feed schedule...the plants tell you what that is...jus sayin

Yeah - to a degree- however you might have him starting off with what the bottle says and that would probably be too much. A reference point to start from is always nice. I'd answer, but not sure if HB has refined his numbers since the last time. DH- I'll email you a bit more on what works for me- it's very near what homebrewer uses, although I measure in e/c and don't have the extra minute to convert it right now.

dickkhead · Apr 10, 2012

Trichy Bastard said:
Yeah - to a degree- however you might have him starting off with what the bottle says and that would probably be too much. A reference point to start from is always nice. I'd answer, but not sure if HB has refined his numbers since the last time. DH- I'll email you a bit more on what works for me- it's very near what homebrewer uses, although I measure in e/c and don't have the extra minute to convert it right now.[/QUOTE

Thanks tb and hb I'm just wondering when to increase during flower and home brewer I guess it's all trial and error!

homebrewer · Apr 10, 2012

dickkhead said:
Thanks tb and hb I'm just wondering when to increase during flower and home brewer I guess it's all trial and error!

It is trial-and-error and by discovering what works best in your situation, you'll learn a lot doing so. So generically I say start with the numbers I posted above and double that in flowering. You may need more, you may need less, just try your best to read the plant. Don't read too hard though, feeding when you should've watered or watering when you should've fed isn't doomsday for your plant. Take notes, dial it in! Don't worry about every single leaf on your plant or a spot here and there. Read the whole plant, keep those leaves green and intact.

dickkhead · Apr 10, 2012

homebrewer said:
It is trial-and-error and by discovering what works best in your situation, you'll learn a lot doing so. So generically I say start with the numbers I posted above and double that in flowering. You may need more, you may need less, just try your best to read the plant. Don't read too hard though, feeding when you should've watered or watering when you should've fed isn't doomsday for your plant. Take notes, dial it in! Don't worry about every single leaf on your plant or a spot here and there. Read the whole plant, keep those leaves green and intact.

homebrewer said:
I like that ratio for hydro. Promix seems to need a little more N in my experience. To answer your question, 20-25% grow seems to be enough for me to get to about a 1-3-1.5 ratio. With protekt (0-0-3) added in there, maybe you're looking at closer to a 1-3-2 at that point.

This comment was added after I responded. Your NPK numbers above equals a 1-2.5-1.3 ratio which is totally fine. The 1-3-2 ratio isn't a hardfast rule for me as the amount of grow I mix in during the first three weeks of flower is greater than the amount that I add during the last three weeks. The leaves will tell you what to do. Don't read those leaves too carefully though, it seems lately people are getting too sensitive to each-and-every spot or color variation or shape of their leaves. Look at the entire plant to determine if you're doing a good job.

what do you mean by 1-3-2 ratio% can you break that down to ml/gal of gro and bloom?

homebrewer · Apr 11, 2012

dickkhead said:
what do you mean by 1-3-2 ratio% can you break that down to ml/gal of gro and bloom?

In one of the quotes in your post, I did break it down.

...20-25% grow seems to be enough for me to get to about a 1-3-1.5 ratio. With protekt (0-0-3) added in there, maybe you're looking at closer to a 1-3-2 at that point.

Southtexasman87 · Apr 12, 2012

Hb thank u very much for this thread I know u hear it a lot but really thank u!
I got some lovly juice coming soon!!! So it's my first bubblebucket and I do have a lil hi temps around 86-90 (it hit 90 once) and about 75 at the low for night my Rex temp it around 76degre, I have a seedling in ther today would b 6-7 days above ground, it still has the starter feed leafs one set of sraided leafs and this morning I noticed the next node set coming out sry I don't have the ability to up load a pic cuz iPhone idk how, ok so for the question does that sound about right for the time? When do I stat to giving grow/bloom/protekt? The feed leafs have been getting a lil yellow and the stem is kinda purpl some times?

I don't have a ec yet any good meter and how do I tell what scale it on I have heard of y'all asking about scales on that?

dickkhead · Apr 12, 2012

homebrewer said:
I like that ratio for hydro. Promix seems to need a little more N in my experience. To answer your question, 20-25% grow seems to be enough for me to get to about a 1-3-1.5 ratio. With protekt (0-0-3) added in there, maybe you're looking at closer to a 1-3-2 at that point.

This comment was added after I responded. Your NPK numbers above equals a 1-2.5-1.3 ratio which is totally fine. The 1-3-2 ratio isn't a hardfast rule for me as the amount of grow I mix in during the first three weeks of flower is greater than the amount that I add during the last three weeks. The leaves will tell you what to do. Don't read those leaves too carefully though, it seems lately people are getting too sensitive to each-and-every spot or color variation or shape of their leaves. Look at the entire plant to determine if you're doing a good job.

homebrewer said:
In one of the quotes in your post, I did break it down.

ok Im sorry im looking but im not understanding it. for a 1.3.2 ratio what is that broken down tsp/gal of each nute?

homebrewer · Apr 12, 2012

Southtexasman87 said:
Hb thank u very much for this thread I know u hear it a lot but really thank u!
I got some lovly juice coming soon!!! So it's my first bubblebucket and I do have a lil hi temps around 86-90 (it hit 90 once) and about 75 at the low for night my Rex temp it around 76degre, I have a seedling in ther today would b 6-7 days above ground, it still has the starter feed leafs one set of sraided leafs and this morning I noticed the next node set coming out sry I don't have the ability to up load a pic cuz iPhone idk how, ok so for the question does that sound about right for the time? When do I stat to giving grow/bloom/protekt? The feed leafs have been getting a lil yellow and the stem is kinda purpl some times?

I don't have a ec yet any good meter and how do I tell what scale it on I have heard of y'all asking about scales on that?

Your plants grow according to their clock, not yours. Don't worry about the growth of a seedling as long as it's healthy.

When do I stat to giving grow/bloom/protekt?

You're in bubblebuckets? Um, now is a good time to start feeding your plants something other than water.

dickkhead said:
ok Im sorry im looking but im not understanding it. for a 1.3.2 ratio what is that broken down tsp/gal of each nute?

20-25% grow, 75-80% bloom. Tsp per gallon depends on too many things to rattle off concrete numbers but percentages are scalable. Use my journals as a guide and figure out what works best for you, your strains and your environment.

dickkhead · Apr 13, 2012

ok thanks hb

Southtexasman87 · Apr 13, 2012

Thank u sir

Stonedkind · Apr 14, 2012

hey homebrew ive been reading your research and like what im seeing i receantly got into hydro and am looking to see what nutrients i should go with and from your research i say dyna gro beats advance nutes basic a and b but what about humboldt nutreints have you used those and would u recomend dyno gro set up grow , bloom , protek , and kln over humboldt and have u and do u use superthrive?

Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Member

Well-Known Member

Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Active Member

Well-Known Member

Active Member

Active Member

Member