Dyna-Gro vs Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur (AK47 Grow)

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dickkhead

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Trichy Bastard said:
Well my vote is still for Canna, for 2 reasons: 1) I am using it and it's the only other nute I like as much as Dyna so far, but it seems to have less trace elements, so perhaps this can give some info on how important those are 2) it claims to be specifically formulated for Cannabis, which seems like a marketing hype that should be looked into. Either way HB, I look forward to you throwing out some new material as I always learn something from it and find it alot more entertaining than any tv show out there. Looking forward to this man.

P.s. After our talk the other day, I was racking my brain about it and I think I remembered the highest trustworthy g/watt mentioning thread out there. It's in the journals of a guy on UK420 running an Atomix aero system with Canna nutes in a 1m2 system under a 600hps and 400 MH. If you sign up to UK420 and search for G-Love and his journals if you are interested. Before he tested the Atomix unit, he was a very good rockwool/drip grower. Those incredible aero rootporn pics I posted before were from those journals.
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Tb do you have a link I looked but it wouldn't let me do a members search thanks man!
 
Trichy Bastard

Trichy Bastard

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dickkhead said:
Tb do you have a link I looked but it wouldn't let me do a members search thanks man!
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Sorry man, that's why I said u had to join I believe to view stuff. Once a member use the search box in upper right and clickthe name G-Love and select the "Members" option. The bogus part is it generally takes a few days to be accepted.
Here's the link to the first journal if you can click it... http://www.uk420.com/boards/index.php?showtopic=78330
Sorry Hb for the temporary hijack...
 
homebrewer

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Someguy15 said:
For flower? Aqua Flores A & B. 5L set runs around $100.
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...or I can get the 1L set for under $30, I like that! Connoisseur cost me over $80 for the litres :cuss:. So would you guys find a Canna comparison beneficial? Despite the name, it's priced lower than DG and I kind of enjoy taking an honest look at the over-hyped, expensive plant foods. But it's up to you guys.
 
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homebrewer said:
...or I can get the 1L set for under $30, I like that! Connoisseur cost me over $80 for the litres :cuss:. So would you guys find a Canna comparison beneficial? Despite the name, it's priced lower than DG and I kind of enjoy taking an honest look at the over-hyped, expensive plant foods. But it's up to you guys.
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Add the boost product to the lineup, then you'll see the cost, oh and the cannazyme
 
Trichy Bastard

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Lucius Vorenus said:
Was this using Dyna Grow GROW or Foliage Pro?
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grow 7-9-5

Yes Canna, Canna lol... I wanted to do my own comparison myself, but I got sidetracked with testing this grow kit instead for now. Once I get it working well, the next step is to do a side x side in aero with the 2 as I have 2 separate chambers/setups. The difference will be I'll be comparing the Terra line as opposed to the aqua. In my application the Terra makes more sense as it is designed for drain to waste, but I would really love to see how versatile the Dyna is, not to mention to see that the benfits if the added trace elements might be. Canna is so respected that some of the people I have alot of respect for (Like the tree farmer fellow) attempt to copy or come close to the Canna recipe with their own diy nute mixes. Doesn't mean anything really until we can do a good scientific head to head though...
 
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Trichy Bastard said:
grow 7-9-5

Yes Canna, Canna lol... I wanted to do my own comparison myself, but I got sidetracked with testing this grow kit instead for now. Once I get it working well, the next step is to do a side x side in aero with the 2 as I have 2 separate chambers/setups. The difference will be I'll be comparing the Terra line as opposed to the aqua. In my application the Terra makes more sense as it is designed for drain to waste, but I would really love to see how versatile the Dyna is, not to mention to see that the benfits if the added trace elements might be. Canna is so respected that some of the people I have alot of respect for (Like the tree farmer fellow) attempt to copy or come close to the Canna recipe with their own diy nute mixes. Doesn't mean anything really until we can do a good scientific head to head though...
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I thought tf like the foliage pro and used that formula for veg ever sense using it? And yea it just let me search on the site so I'll be looking at that journal thanks for posting that tb!
 
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dickkhead said:
I thought tf like the foliage pro and used that formula for veg ever sense using it? And yea it just let me search on the site so I'll be looking at that journal thanks for posting that tb!
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Yes, tree farmer claims getting excellent results when he used the foliagepro in soil when he had a few plants growing that way, but I am sure the question was pertaining to what HB used in his thread here. The macro nutrients are very similar, but I am curious what the other differences are between the 7-9-5 and the 7-9-6. I could be wrong, but I believe the 7-9-5 is more suited for hydro while the foliage pro is more suited for soil because of the difference in ammoniacal nitrogen content. Anyway, lets not hijack HB's Journal here. I am looking forward to seeing some new material no matter what product he decides to use.

I would wonder if the consideration to use silica in any of the regimens is par for the course? I have seen reliable tests with the Canna rhiztonic where they put a drop in water with a piece of paper and it completely dissolved overnight. That product is supposed to be enzymes that digest only dead root material so they shed the outer dead layers and let the healthy new growth through. I guess it has it's place, but it's mighty expensive if my memory serves me.
 
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Trichy Bastard said:
Yes, tree farmer claims getting excellent results when he used the foliagepro in soil when he had a few plants growing that way, but I am sure the question was pertaining to what HB used in his thread here. The macro nutrients are very similar, but I am curious what the other differences are between the 7-9-5 and the 7-9-6. I could be wrong, but I believe the 7-9-5 is more suited for hydro while the foliage pro is more suited for soil because of the difference in ammoniacal nitrogen content. Anyway, lets not hijack HB's Journal here. I am looking forward to seeing some new material no matter what product he decides to use.

I would wonder if the consideration to use silica in any of the regimens is par for the course? I have seen reliable tests with the Canna rhiztonic where they put a drop in water with a piece of paper and it completely dissolved overnight. That product is supposed to be enzymes that digest only dead root material so they shed the outer dead layers and let the healthy new growth through. I guess it has it's place, but it's mighty expensive if my memory serves me.
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yeah bro Canna has some expensive products i used to use their nutes in my hydro system,but damn i couldn't afford it..i still have 1/2 a bottle of their PK 13/14 i just use it on my girls outside.one thing i will give Canna is it's super clean your rez looks like water,(wait it is mostly water:dunce:)either way HB will dial it in and i know that he will have better results than AN..Yo Hb what ya got on my 40:-P
 
homebrewer

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I hope it's ok but I wont be buying their $100 additives. The performance of their base with something like hydroplex should probably be indicative enough of the performance of their base. If you're interested in following this canna grow, PM me.
 
Trichy Bastard

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BTW- I finally got around to calling and asking Dyna-gro how they are able to have a one part formula without precipitation. The lady who answered told me that it is supposedly impossible to do, but it is their trade secret and all the employees have to sign a promise to never tell anyone how they do it. Pretty interesting fact if I do say so myself.
 
unohu69

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Hey HB, do you think the DG orchid formula would be a OK substitute for Grow? the NPK isnt all that much different. I would also use it with some Bloom for the beginning stages of flower.

Im not sure whats wrong with my DG Grow bottle, I think it has some precipitate chunks in the bottom, shaking it doesnt help. and im not sure, but my plants dont seem to like it lately. I need to switch to either a fresh bottle or something real soon tho. and my local shop didnt have any grow left ( seems word has gotten out), but there is the orchid formula there, figured it would work in a pinch. What say you?
 
homebrewer

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unohu69 said:
Hey HB, do you think the DG orchid formula would be a OK substitute for Grow? the NPK isnt all that much different. I would also use it with some Bloom for the beginning stages of flower.

Im not sure whats wrong with my DG Grow bottle, I think it has some precipitate chunks in the bottom, shaking it doesnt help. and im not sure, but my plants dont seem to like it lately. I need to switch to either a fresh bottle or something real soon tho. and my local shop didnt have any grow left ( seems word has gotten out), but there is the orchid formula there, figured it would work in a pinch. What say you?
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I've never seen particulate in the grow but I do in the bloom, it doesn't seem to cause issues. In any case, what does the orchid formula look like. I can't find it on their site.
 
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Looks a lot like the 7-9-5 grow and should work just fine. Personally if I had the option, I'd buy whichever one was cheaper.
 
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unohu69 said:
Hey HB, do you think the DG orchid formula would be a OK substitute for Grow? the NPK isnt all that much different. I would also use it with some Bloom for the beginning stages of flower.

Im not sure whats wrong with my DG Grow bottle, I think it has some precipitate chunks in the bottom, shaking it doesnt help. and im not sure, but my plants dont seem to like it lately. I need to switch to either a fresh bottle or something real soon tho. and my local shop didnt have any grow left ( seems word has gotten out), but there is the orchid formula there, figured it would work in a pinch. What say you?
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are you in dirt or hydro? try the foliage pro if you can stuff is bomb!
 
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