Do you know somthing called water?

Heisenberg said:

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delvite said:

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.................Water covers 71% of the Earth's surface and the earth is a big magnet is it not? theorists say that water takes on the imprint energy it come into contact with?

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RyanTheRhino said:

The only purpose of having something pass thorough a magnetic field is to induce a current. Non conductive materials would have little to no effect. Water is non conductive. Even when you add ions water its self is still non conductive. The oxygen atom is too electronegative for it to pass along electrons. If you put enough energy into water the water will give up a hydrogen but it still wont pass along electrons. The fact that mixing salts into water can complete a circuit does not mean water is conductive. what is happening is that the salts are free to float along and when they meetup with another one swimming around they can transfer electrons. this keeps happening until it reaches the other end of the pool. Water is a catalyst for this but not the cause. So to say that water can be magnetic just sounds silly because it cant pass a current.

A current can create a magnetic field & A magnetic field can induce a current. Both arguments must be followed ,a material can not do just one.

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RyanTheRhino said:

And the human brain is a bio reactor that produces the electricity your nervous system uses, but you cant run a computer on it. In theory it sounds like it hey maybe , but in practicality the magnitudes required would not even be close.

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delvite said:

71% this is without adding what organic organisms have consumed it has been the same since earth was eventually formed, some of that ice has been there since we dont know when. it is said that water take on the molecular imprint of the energy it comes into contact with ( imprint not energy ) its has been found that moods n such have an impact on the energy humans release ( bad vibes for the hippies ) now somwhere along the line, water has been into contact with everything? therfore it has the print of every thing it comes into contact with, this has been going on from start of life to now is it a book that we dont know how to read

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delvite said:

it is said that water take on the molecular imprint of the energy it comes into contact with ( imprint not energy ) its has been found that moods n such have an impact on the energy humans release

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Heisenberg said:

You are not saying anything that holds meaning here. Like asking what color is Tuesday, it doesn't make sense.


Energy is a science word that means only one thing, the ability to do work. A measurable work potential. Energy can be used, it can be stored, but it can not be imprinted onto a house, or felt from negative thoughts. If ever you hear the word energy being used, reaplace it with the phrase "ability to do work" and see if it still makes sense. If not, then it's probably a meaningless statement. When someone is trying to explain a scientific concept, and misuses such a basic scientific word as energy, that person probably doesn't know what they are talking about.

Correct use:
These batteries have no energy.
These batteries have no ability to do work.


Incorrect use:
This old house is giving off a lot of negative energy.
This old house is giving off a lot of negative ability to do work.


So lets look at some statements about this water:

it is said that water take on the molecular imprint of the ability to do work it comes into contact with ( imprint not work potential ) its has been found that moods n such have an impact on the ability to do work humans release

do not mistake these for snowflakes, these are measurable work potential inprinted water memorys





Regardless whether this magnetic water works for plants or not, the mechanism proposed is not grounded in reality, or even sensible.

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Doer said:

This is interesting synergy of thought. Your dismissal is quite correct, Mr. H. And yet this illustrative word replacement has me on a new tangent.

I like tangents. Drop the "not", take it out of context entirely, we get this, a very interesting definition of snowflakes. The memories are the various crystallization patterns. Not necessarily a personal revelation but an interesting view of how work gets done on even the tiniest levels. Cheers!

snowflakes, these are measurable work potential imprinted water memory.

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Doer said:

"....................so stay in your box

this aint helping

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I say it is helping. You are in our science forum. We expect science. Human mood is science. Magnetic effect is science.
Crockery is when un-related science is shoved together and "ah ha" is proclaimed. Show some evidence and propose
thoughts in a way that we can relate. Proposing that we just keep quiet is cult not science.

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Doer said:

This is interesting synergy of thought. Your dismissal is quite correct, Mr. H. And yet this illustrative word replacement has me on a new tangent.

I like tangents. Drop the "not", take it out of context entirely, we get this, a very interesting definition of snowflakes. The memories are the various crystallization patterns. Not necessarily a personal revelation but an interesting view of how work gets done on even the tiniest levels. Cheers!

snowflakes, these are measurable work potential imprinted water memory.

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delvite said:

Any living organism relies on an external source of energy—radiation from the Sun, you are talking chemical energy from consumation where im taking internal energry the kind that is in the centre of the what was/is life now p.s sorry for snapping i do want help understanding this or trying to find a way to understand tis im just tired

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RyanTheRhino said:

To me snowflakes form different geometry based on physics. Crystallization is the release of energy and will follow the path of least resistance. Since no tiny piece of the atmosphere will ever be the same you will always get a different geometry. Not to mention as the grain begins to crystallize it will move along its own path through varying different conditions. Conditions like: ambient temperature, friction, pressure, airflow, density , ect... The simplest example can think of is temperature and airflow. If it is cold the snowflake would have large grains, if its hot it would have small grains. If the air flow is high then there would be more force pushing the conditioning water to the edges giving you long spindly snowflakes. If the pressure is high then there is theoretically more water vapor giving you an overall larger snowflake in size.

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mindphuk said:

Dr. Emoto, who received his doctorate in alternative medicine from the Open International University for Alternative Medicine in India, which is listed between Hollywood Upstairs Medical College and the Correspondence College of Tampa on the international list of unaccredited diploma mills, achieved his fifteen minutes with an infamous experiment. He took samples of water and exposed them to a variety of words, sounds, and pictures, subjectively categorized as good, bad, ugly, beautiful, etc, etc, and then took pictures of the resulting ice crystals that formed when these samples were cooled sufficiently.


He discovered that the ice crystals exposed to good things were beautiful to look at and the ones exposed to bad things were ugly and deformed. He naturally figured that the words, pictures and sounds pass along information to the water via vibrations and an observer effect he bases on, wait for it, quantum physics (said in a booming and echoing voice). The stupid, it burns, vibrates, and is apparently quite a gossip.


What Emoto actually does in his unblinded experiments is take multiple pictures of the ice crystals and pick out the ones that support his hypothesis. I hope I didn’t ruin that for anyone.

http://spacecityskeptics.wordpress.com/2008/12/23/more-water-woo-from-masaru-emoto/

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