I haven't been very impressed with his work either
Do you believe in God?
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I think religion is a cancer to humanity. Why are there so many different ones around the world with each group believing their god can beat up your god. If you spend your whole life worshipping the wrong god what happens. Do you go to hell because you weren't born and raised in the right part of the world. maybe you can declare war to eliminate the people that worship the wrong god. As long as you're killing people in the name of your god you get a pass? How about this if theres a god why does the pope need a bullet proof car? Does he lack faith, or maybe he only uses it when gods off the clock or on vacation. Speaking of vacation god must be gearing up for another one so when you go to church on sunday don't forget your wallet god needs a loan. any left over will be used to defend or move the kid fuckers to another part of the country where their not known, for a fresh start, and new mouths to stick their dick in. Can I get an amenBut violent video games and rock music are to blame..
Did anyone even put forth the question that organized religion might have something to do with it when they were blaming pop culture for all of humanity's ills when you were coming up?
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GreenLogician
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Easy to argue with that, look at all these counter-arguments
http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Banana_argument
In fact, Ray Comfort published a retraction video, after he learned that the modern banana was a creation of human domestication, and the wild banana is small and unpalatable.
“My apologies for not explaining myself more clearly. I was not aware that the common banana had been so modified through hybridization. However the truth remains that god gave man the knowledge and ability to modify it, so that it perfectly fit into his hand." - Comfort
Gregor Eisenhorn
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I consider myself to be a very spiritual person most of the time, who believes that just because you cannot see something, doesn't mean it isn't there...
On the other hand I am becoming more and more sceptical... it's kind of overwhelming me. A part of me keeps nagging at the loopholes in various religions... I do believe that when our ancestros were interpreting the world around them, the gaps and holes were filled by superstition. Why does the Sun travel AROUND the Earth? Well that's probably because some dudes flying in his chariot set ablaze on the sky.
Science won't "destroy" humanity with the weapons it helped build, but with the proof that gods cannot exist.
But shit, something keeps nagging me in my soul telling that faith is humanities fundamental right and because of thaat, something must exist in the vast void of space.
On the other hand I am becoming more and more sceptical... it's kind of overwhelming me. A part of me keeps nagging at the loopholes in various religions... I do believe that when our ancestros were interpreting the world around them, the gaps and holes were filled by superstition. Why does the Sun travel AROUND the Earth? Well that's probably because some dudes flying in his chariot set ablaze on the sky.
Science won't "destroy" humanity with the weapons it helped build, but with the proof that gods cannot exist.
But shit, something keeps nagging me in my soul telling that faith is humanities fundamental right and because of thaat, something must exist in the vast void of space.
Wallstreeter43
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Let me get this straight . Because there are so many religions that means that there isn't one that contains the fullness of truth ? That doesn't logically follow .
How about this ? Man has been searching for God for thousands of years . The native Americans knew that there was a reality other then the natural world and other cultures have then looked deeper beyond just the spiritual realm for the creator of all reality .
Nde science has some pretty good evidence for the soul , the afterlife and even to some extent God.
The largest Nde study ever conducted passed peer review in 2014 into a respectable uk secular medical journal .
It's called the aware study headed by agnostic Nde expert dr Sam Parnia where a 57 year old patient had a veridical Nde for 3 minutes without a functioning brain .
If the brain creates consciousness as atheists want us to believe how does someone have full conscious awReness for
3 full minutes without a functional brain .
Aware part 2 study has already started and if 3-5 patients see the day vital signs posted on the cieling during their cardiac arrest it will be world news , and it will be the behavior mining companies f the end of atheism.
Aware 2 is 4% done so it will take 2to 4 more years to finish minimum .
Watch for it
Ndes are some of the best evidences for the soul and afterlife and even well known atheist philosopher john beloff begged his fellow atheists to just accept the reality of the soul and afterlife and try to find a natural explanation for them.
Atheist physicist sir Roger penrose already believes in the soul and afterlife and he has teamed up with another atheist scientist Stuart hameroff to try to prove their
Micro tubule hypothesis .
Padawanbater2
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If there were scientific evidence for the existence of God, it would contradict faithLet me get this straight . Because there are so many religions that means that there isn't one that contains the fullness of truth ? That doesn't logically follow .
How about this ? Man has been searching for God for thousands of years . The native Americans knew that there was a reality other then the natural world and other cultures have then looked deeper beyond just the spiritual realm for the creator of all reality .
Nde science has some pretty good evidence for the soul , the afterlife and even to some extent God.
The largest Nde study ever conducted passed peer review in 2014 into a respectable uk secular medical journal .
It's called the aware study headed by agnostic Nde expert dr Sam Parnia where a 57 year old patient had a veridical Nde for 3 minutes without a functioning brain .
If the brain creates consciousness as atheists want us to believe how does someone have full conscious awReness for
3 full minutes without a functional brain .
Aware part 2 study has already started and if 3-5 patients see the day vital signs posted on the cieling during their cardiac arrest it will be world news , and it will be the behavior mining companies f the end of atheism.
Aware 2 is 4% done so it will take 2to 4 more years to finish minimum .
Watch for it
Ndes are some of the best evidences for the soul and afterlife and even well known atheist philosopher john beloff begged his fellow atheists to just accept the reality of the soul and afterlife and try to find a natural explanation for them.
Atheist physicist sir Roger penrose already believes in the soul and afterlife and he has teamed up with another atheist scientist Stuart hameroff to try to prove their
Micro tubule hypothesis .
You are not supposed to know, you are supposed to believe, that's the point of having faith
GreenLogician
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--- The pseudoscience community has taken this study and run with it, misinforming millions of people. No evidence for a soul was found, what the whole misinformation scheme plays on is you having a poor understanding of what 'clinical death' means. That doesn't mean they had no brain function, it just means their heart is stopped.
The study did not show someone had 'full conscious awareness without a functioning brain'.
At best it shows that the brain can still make sensory memories while the heart is stopped.
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GreenLogician
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--- Citation please. As I understand it, Penrose's microtubule hypothesis is that some brain structures involved in large-scale neurological processes are small enough that quantum mechanics may play a role. That our brains might be quantum computers.
I think you've probably fallen for sensationalist articles exaggerating the truth again, like with Sam Parnia's work.
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That One Stoner Guy
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How do you KNOW which thousand year old book you should choose to worship
They all contradict each other, they can't all be true, But they can all be false.
GreenLogician
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Also, as far as the evidence shows, ALL religions are man made. Including Abrahamic religions.
Nyan Rapier
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Here's a Carl Sagan clip for your viewing pleasure.
Nyan Rapier
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Our most recent common ancestor is no longer extant. No we're not descended from monkeys and biology has nothing to do with theology. Anyone who mentions it while talking about religion or lack of religion itches my brain.Yes your father and mother were monkyes
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Padawanbater2
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You can't know that, that's part of the problem
What kind of omnipotent being would require its subjects worship it anyway? If something exists that has the power to create the entire universe, why would it bother with caring what humans believe?
I don't think it would, and if it did, I certainly wouldn't worship it because something with such a large ego can't be a god
Gregor Eisenhorn
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It's for our own saftey, not to satisfy his/its ego. God wants humans to believe in him so they won't delve into an imoral path.
GreenLogician
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Religions teach adherents that they will delve into immoral paths if they leave the religion.
It's an entrapment scheme, convince people they are ill then sell them an imaginary remedy.
A temporary one they have to keep coming back for, tying you to belief.
(It's likely that only some religions were intentionally designed this way, but they basically all converge towards this effective psychological manipulation strategy, unintentionally, through adapting over time.)
It's an entrapment scheme, convince people they are ill then sell them an imaginary remedy.
A temporary one they have to keep coming back for, tying you to belief.
(It's likely that only some religions were intentionally designed this way, but they basically all converge towards this effective psychological manipulation strategy, unintentionally, through adapting over time.)
My thought was if there is a god, and now you have evidence of a magic man why are there so many versions. All completely different, and followers of whatever religion are killing each other over it since the beginning of time. Why? Happens every day still. Turn on the tv there people blowing themselves up or unloading ak47's at men women and children they never laid eyes on. Doesn't sound like anything im gonna worship. Then you watch the nightly and you hear Islamic militants or muslim extremeist. Think about that, they're nuts over there you agree? Then stop think the USA has been droppin billions of dollars worth of bombs on these people who live in mud homes and don't mean that to be disrespectful to the people there, and the USA claims they're the extremeists. Then when an American soldier dies serving his country you have protesters at his funeral The get away with it because they have civil rights given to them by the same soldiers they're wishing death upon. I don't know how any human being can see parents burying their child and yell,god hates you, thank god for dead soldiers, your sons going to hell. The Christians of the world have such compassion for their fellow man. Theres a common thread that is in all religion. That is none of them and their followers, that's the ability to mind their fuckin business. Let people live how they like, but they cant. Some how its their duty to save people make em repent. I think if two adult men wanna get married then spend the next week eating birthday cake outta each other ass wheres the problem, doesn't bother me, shouldn't bother you, or the pope himself. Its none of anybody's business. Same with prostitution, abortion, and doctor assisted suicide.Let me get this straight . Because there are so many religions that means that there isn't one that contains the fullness of truth ? That doesn't logically follow .
How about this ? Man has been searching for God for thousands of years . The native Americans knew that there was a reality other then the natural world and other cultures have then looked deeper beyond just the spiritual realm for the creator of all reality .
Nde science has some pretty good evidence for the soul , the afterlife and even to some extent God.
The largest Nde study ever conducted passed peer review in 2014 into a respectable uk secular medical journal .
It's called the aware study headed by agnostic Nde expert dr Sam Parnia where a 57 year old patient had a veridical Nde for 3 minutes without a functioning brain .
If the brain creates consciousness as atheists want us to believe how does someone have full conscious awReness for
3 full minutes without a functional brain .
Aware part 2 study has already started and if 3-5 patients see the day vital signs posted on the cieling during their cardiac arrest it will be world news , and it will be the behavior mining companies f the end of atheism.
Aware 2 is 4% done so it will take 2to 4 more years to finish minimum .
Watch for it
Ndes are some of the best evidences for the soul and afterlife and even well known atheist philosopher john beloff begged his fellow atheists to just accept the reality of the soul and afterlife and try to find a natural explanation for them.
Atheist physicist sir Roger penrose already believes in the soul and afterlife and he has teamed up with another atheist scientist Stuart hameroff to try to prove their
Micro tubule hypothesis .
Gregor Eisenhorn
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People need to realise that culture is not the equivalent of religion. During the middle ages we would burn accused people at the stake, but nowadays we don't do that do we?
Like all the kid fuckers, let god and his followers clean up their house before worrying about mine.