Do you believe in God?

Do you believe in God?

  • Yes

    Votes: 71 34.6%

  • No

    Votes: 122 59.5%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 12 5.9%
  • Total voters
    205
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Gregor Eisenhorn said:
So once again religion isn't the problem, it's the stupid fucks that change the meaning to fit there own, sadistic means.
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Bud, the problem is that people get to choose their own meaning today. Leaders of extremist factions pick and prey on the weakest among them to carry out the attacks that kill innocent people. Those with very little options in life who are already radicalized. These are the guys that carried out the 9/11 attacks.

When you can interpret your own meaning, murdering 3,000 innocent people to save the future generations of yours is a very easy choice to make for someone with nothing left to lose
 
Gregor Eisenhorn

Gregor Eisenhorn

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I love it when people search for the old testament to bak up the arguments. You do know that the Old Testament was created during a fucked up time were slavery and killing was considered a norm?

Anyway, ever since "the coming" of Jesus Christ christians no longer abide to the guidelines of the Old Testament, so those rules mean nothing to us anymore.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
Gregor Eisenhorn said:
I love it when people search for the old testament to bak up the arguments. You do know that the Old Testament was created during a fucked up time were slavery and killing was considered a norm?

Anyway, ever since "the coming" of Jesus Christ christians no longer abide to the guidelines of the Old Testament, so those rules mean nothing to us anymore.
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Was the OT the word of God before Jesus returned?
 
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KryptoBud

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Gregor Eisenhorn said:
I consider myself to be a very spiritual person most of the time, who believes that just because you cannot see something, doesn't mean it isn't there...

On the other hand I am becoming more and more sceptical... it's kind of overwhelming me. A part of me keeps nagging at the loopholes in various religions... I do believe that when our ancestros were interpreting the world around them, the gaps and holes were filled by superstition. Why does the Sun travel AROUND the Earth? Well that's probably because some dudes flying in his chariot set ablaze on the sky.

Science won't "destroy" humanity with the weapons it helped build, but with the proof that gods cannot exist.

But shit, something keeps nagging me in my soul telling that faith is humanities fundamental right and because of thaat, something must exist in the vast void of space.
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Ifeel very similar but switched I do see whats around me and I know theres nothing out their. The reason theres so many religions and why each place on this earth has their own believes is..........no planes, trains, auto mobiles, no internet. news papers or mail. People had a small area they could travel, so each group has their own beliefs and that's it. Dont you think god would've got out the memo to all people all around the world, I mean he did create it all didn't he.
 
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KryptoBud

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Gregor Eisenhorn said:
I love it when people search for the old testament to bak up the arguments. You do know that the Old Testament was created during a fucked up time were slavery and killing was considered a norm?

Anyway, ever since "the coming" of Jesus Christ christians no longer abide to the guidelines of the Old Testament, so those rules mean nothing to us anymore.
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Wow heres a problem with religion. The old testament was written at a fucked up. Killing and slavery were the norm, and it still is the today.
Old testament rules mean nothing to you anymore. So basically you edit it to suit your needs. Is it like top secret and classified documents that get releasd with every thing blacked out
 
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KryptoBud

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Well yes, because their culture is fucking savage and imoral. But there's nothing about decapitating unbelievers in the bible. So once again religion isn't the problem, it's the stupid fucks that change the meaning to fit there own, sadistic means.[/QUOTE] Really?
 
GreenLogician

GreenLogician

Well-Known Member
Gregor Eisenhorn said:
I love it when people search for the old testament to bak up the arguments. You do know that the Old Testament was created during a fucked up time were slavery and killing was considered a norm?
Anyway, ever since "the coming" of Jesus Christ christians no longer abide to the guidelines of the Old Testament, so those rules mean nothing to us anymore.
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It doesn't matter if you think we are still under the horrible rules of the OT (like where God says you can own slaves, and as long as they are foreigners, you can keep them forever and even beat them to death) or not under those rules anymore.

What matters is if you think those rules were given by a morally perfect being.

Either you think the God of the OT was evil, or you are approving of atrocities and calling it morally perfect.
Christianity loses whether we are still meant to be under the OT rules or not.
 
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Wallstreeter43

Member
Gregor Eisenhorn said:
I consider myself to be a very spiritual person most of the time, who believes that just because you cannot see something, doesn't mean it isn't there...

On the other hand I am becoming more and more sceptical... it's kind of overwhelming me. A part of me keeps nagging at the loopholes in various religions... I do believe that when our ancestros were interpreting the world around them, the gaps and holes were filled by superstition. Why does the Sun travel AROUND the Earth? Well that's probably because some dudes flying in his chariot set ablaze on the sky.

Science won't "destroy" humanity with the weapons it helped build, but with the proof that gods cannot exist.

But shit, something keeps nagging me in my soul telling that faith is humanities fundamental right and because of thaat, something must exist in the vast void of space.
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Gregor you need to research Nde science .
Pretty soon you won't need a lot of faith as science itself is very close to proving the afterlife .
 
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ThickStemz

Well-Known Member
Padawanbater2 said:
Bud, the problem is that people get to choose their own meaning today. Leaders of extremist factions pick and prey on the weakest among them to carry out the attacks that kill innocent people. Those with very little options in life who are already radicalized. These are the guys that carried out the 9/11 attacks.

When you can interpret your own meaning, murdering 3,000 innocent people to save the future generations of yours is a very easy choice to make for someone with nothing left to lose
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What?

The guys that flew planes into buildings on 9/11 had college degrees, many PhDs.

They were well educated and solidly middle class.

This isnt a poverty problem.

http://www.hks.harvard.edu/fs/akhwaja/media/madrassa/NYTimes.htm

Osama bin Laden left a life of wealth and privilege to live in a cave and dodge predator drones
 
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