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jyermum

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Now that medical marijuana is under full attack in California Colorado looks like the promised land.
 

colonuggs

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Now that medical marijuana is under full attack in California Colorado looks like the promised land.
Dont worry Colorado is next t5he Feds are not willing to play fair.....they can grow it but we cant


By Steve Elliott ~alapoet~ in Dispensaries, News
Wednesday, December 14, 2011 at 1:20






CBS Denver
Med Stop, which was approved by the City of Denver, is 161 feet diagonally across the street from a school.
​Colorado has been mercifully spared -- so far -- from the federal crackdown on medical marijuana. Some have speculated its highly regulated system of handling distribution through state-licensed dispensaries has protected the state. That theory may now need some adjustment. Federal authorities plan to crack down on the medicinal cannabis business in Colorado on a large scale for the first time.

The action -- which also flies in the face of theories postulating that since Colorado's medical marijuana law is a constitutional amendment, it has protected the state from the feds -- will begin with warning letters which will go to dispensaries and grow facilities near schools, reports Rick Sallinger at CBS4.


So far, it's not clear when the crackdown will begin in earnest.


Dispensaries that receive the warning letters from Colorado's U.S. Attorney -- letters similar to those sent in other medical marijuana states -- will be given 45 days to shut down or move. If they don't comply, they'll be shut down by the federal prosecutor, CBS 4 reports.


The targeted dispensaries are reportedly located within 1,000 feet of schools.That rule is apparently being used because that distance already appears in federal law as a factor in drug crime sentencing.


It follows the same curious pattern the DOJ has used in other medical marijuana states. The federal government officially classifies marijuana as a Schedule I drug with a high danger of abuse and no medical value, and thus it's illegal for any purpose, and all dispensaries are violating federal law. But for whatever reason, they have so far felt the need to justify their raids on dispensaries by singling out dispensaries that are supposedly violating some additional rule or other, such as the 1,000-foot limit.



Craig F. Walker/The Denver Post
Attorney Rob Corry: "[T]he federal government is essentially declaring war on the voters of our state (who) passed a Constitutional amendment"
​The move comes after the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) sent out a memo "clarifying" that marijuana "has been and remains illegal under federal law," despite its medical legalization in 16 states and the District of Columbia.


Many of Colorado's dispensaries are within 1,000 feet of a school, but have already been approved to be there under local laws. They have usually been grandfathered in.


Such is the case with the Rocky Mountain High dispensary at 3rd and University in Cherry Creek North, which is near Bromwell Elementary School, but was grandfathered in under Denver's municipal ordinances.


A crackdown on the dispensary is suddenly "vital for the safety and the security of our students and our community," claimed Bromwell Principal Jody Cohn, who evidently believes those scary marijuana plants are going to escape and start attacking kids.


No word from the oh-so-concerned Principal Cohn regarding shutting down liquor stores or pharmacies -- both of which sell products which actually kill people -- that are located near the school.


Robert Corry, an attorney representing dispensaries, said the medical marijuana shops are strictly regulated under Colorado law.


"The federal apparatus here has better things to do," Corry said. "My reaction would be the federal government is essentially declaring war on the voters of our state (who) passed a Constitutional amendment."


U.S. Attorneys in California, Washington and other states recently announced crackdowns in which they would be targeting landlords who rent space to the dispensaries, as well as dispensary owners and operators
 

Finshaggy

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Dont worry Colorado is next t5he Feds are not willing to play fair.....they can grow it but we cant




Obama snuck Colorado's Marijuana program into the "Stimulus Package"
So it is ACTUALLY a government funded (legal) program :lol: :D :D :D

AND it is the only state that changed it's CONSTITUTION to say that we can grow, possess and smoke weed.
So at least until the "New World Order" comes or someone Marshall's authority over the government...

Then Colorado tokers are safe from "The Man" :D
 

MacGuyver4.2.0

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Obama snuck Colorado's Marijuana program into the "Stimulus Package"
So it is ACTUALLY a government funded (legal) program :lol: :D :D :D

AND it is the only state that changed it's CONSTITUTION to say that we can grow, possess and smoke weed.
So at least until the "New World Order" comes or someone Marshall's authority over the government...

Then Colorado tokers are safe from "The Man" :D
Fin-

Sorry but you got that reversed, I'm afraid. The state of Colorado ammended thier State Constitution with Amendment 20 in November of 2000. Colorado is THE ONLY state with an ammendment pertaining to medical marijuana. However, several dirty-dealing Colorado politicians have nullified many portions of ammendment 20 by adding house and senate sponsored bills to supposedly 'clarify' the will of the people further. From the CDPHE:

In November 2000, Coloradoans passed Amendment 20 establishing the Medical Marijuana Registry. The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment maintains a confidential database of patients who have applied for a registry identification card for the medical use of marijuana. Registry identification cards are available to Colorado residents and valid only in Colorado.
Patients who are currently receiving medical treatment for a debilitating medical condition may qualify for a registry identification card. A list of qualifying conditions is available on our Legal Documents/Resources page.
The Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment only issues registry identification cards and maintains the confidential Medical Marijuana Registry. For questions about Medical Marijuana Centers or Caregiver registration, please contact the Department of Revenue at 303-205-8421 or visit their website.

Notice that the CDPHE still maintains that the records are 'confidential'. It used to be that but is no more. Bills have given law enforcement (and the now the DHS) access to the system 24/7. There are video cameras in dispensaries watching who buys what and where.
NOTHING is safe or confidential any longer. Word from my channels is that the DEA is coming for Colorado next, as soon as the heat gets too much to deal with in Calf. (approx this spring/summer). Banks in Colorado are STILL not MMJ friendly. Obama did nothing to promote or help the industry in Co or elsewhere, in fact he has lied from the start. My good friends work for the govt so maybe I have access to info you do not. (that includes every 3 letter agency that exists to date). People thinking CO is a safe haven couldn't be more wrong. Like Don Henley said- "Call someplace paradise...kiss it goodbye"
 

Finshaggy

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I know the rules are becoming "Less confidential" and the registry IS gonna be like "Shindler's list" for stoners here in Colorado.


But FOR NOW, until shit hits the fan. Colorado's stoners will remain safe.
More than half of America will be unsafe by the time Colorado's stoner population is :D
 

Osburn

Active Member
More to the point, what's the price of a wholesale pound. Right now, MMC's can get high quality flowers from other MMC's for $2,500 per pound so if you walk into an MMC and see a nice ounce for $200, that's a fair price because the MMC is only getting like 25% margin...

Regarding crackdowns and stuff, I'm not really going to get worried until we get a new U.S. attorney general and then anything is possible. But, IMO, the camel's nose is already under the tent and the feds know it. They'll continue to harrass the kingpins and cooperate with the MMJ states on nitpicky stuff like zoning, regulations. etc...But this isn't going away as long as there are people willing to stick their necks out on the line and work in this industry. I see having a MMED badge or a red card like a form of political activism. Yeah, the man has our info and that's bad...But I'm willing to make that sacrifice to do my part to end the prohibition of cannabis.
 

chef c

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obama snuck it into the stim package? jesus christ monkey balls fin. 5700 posts since august? any of em any good? thats, like, almost 1200 posts a month... 40 posts a day? need I say more? im so sick of you talking out of your ass. I still dont think you have a card. we know your 19. its pretty hard to get a card for anyone under 30 in the state, let alone 21. Anyone could call a mmjc and ask what their deals are. with 5700 posts you should know that we're more about personal stuff here than finding "deals" at dispensaries dude. Watch... ring ring ring.. "hi do you guys have deals for new members?" no red card needed.
 

Finshaggy

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obama snuck it into the stim package? jesus christ monkey balls fin. 5700 posts since august? any of em any good? thats, like, almost 1200 posts a month... 40 posts a day? need I say more? im so sick of you talking out of your ass. I still dont think you have a card. we know your 19. its pretty hard to get a card for anyone under 30 in the state, let alone 21. Anyone could call a mmjc and ask what their deals are. with 5700 posts you should know that we're more about personal stuff here than finding "deals" at dispensaries dude. Watch... ring ring ring.. "hi do you guys have deals for new members?" no red card needed.
[video=youtube;5hJALTAg7rM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hJALTAg7rM[/video]


And about the Obama stimulus thing, that info MAY be wrong, but I got it from a documentary on a news channel.

I can find the documentary if you want :D
 

SoCoMMJ

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Notice that the CDPHE still maintains that the records are 'confidential'. It used to be that but is no more. Bills have given law enforcement (and the now the DHS) access to the system 24/7. There are video cameras in dispensaries watching who buys what and where. NOTHING is safe or confidential any longer.
The registry is only allowed by the constitution to confirm or deny the validity of a registry card presented to law enforcement. Once you have shown your card to law enforcement, you have already violated your own confidentiality. The Department of Revenue does not have any patient identifying information. I have not seen a case to substantiate your claim of the registry[or the DOR] releasing patient information. Please provide details of this as I would be very interested to see that information.

The cameras dispensaries are the same as you will find in any gas station, 7-11, or Walgreens. Nobody is using the cameras to broadcast identifying information to the feds.

Please provide data to support either of your claims, or we will have to just consider you post one in the latest round of fear mongering.
 

SoCoMMJ

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To get this thread back on track, I can say that we offer Members $25 in credits monthly for as long as we remain the signed MMC.
Not sure how many dispensaries are offering something like that, but haven't seen any others. Over the last year we've only had maybe 3 of 300 switch, so it must be ok ;-).

Way back in the day, signed patients used to get free ounces monthly. Those days are long gone I'm afraid :-(.
 

MacGuyver4.2.0

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The registry is only allowed by the constitution to confirm or deny the validity of a registry card presented to law enforcement. Once you have shown your card to law enforcement, you have already violated your own confidentiality. The Department of Revenue does not have any patient identifying information. I have not seen a case to substantiate your claim of the registry[or the DOR] releasing patient information. Please provide details of this as I would be very interested to see that information.

The cameras dispensaries are the same as you will find in any gas station, 7-11, or Walgreens. Nobody is using the cameras to broadcast identifying information to the feds.

Please provide data to support either of your claims, or we will have to just consider you post one in the latest round of fear mongering.
Fear Mongering? We shall see. I hope you are right but my gov sources say you are not. And NO I won't give you names, for very obvious reasons. The way it was spelled out to me is this:

The states are supposed to be able to govern themselves independantly and of each other for a good reason. The caveat however, is that the U.S. (and many other countries) are signatories to the U.N. Charter on illegal drug trafficking (among others).
Congress (and the U.S. Attny General) still maintain that both:
(10) Marihuana.
and
(17) Tetrahydrocannabinols.
are still classified as schedule 1. Controlled substances under
Controlled Substances Act
TITLE 21 - FOOD AND DRUGS
CHAPTER 13 - DRUG ABUSE PREVENTION AND CONTROL
SUBCHAPTER I - CONTROL AND ENFORCEMENT

Since the U.S. is a signatorie to this U.N. Treaty (among others)
''Convention on Psychotropic Substances'' means the Convention on Psychotropic Substances signed at Vienna, Austria, on February 21, 1971;
''Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs'' means the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs signed at New York, New York, on March 30, 1961.

The 82nd U.S. Attorney General (currently Eric Holder) has both the authority to control, regulate and (through the DOJ) prosecute for violations of the U.N. signed treaties as covered by the Controlled Substances Act (and others)
http://www.fda.gov/regulatoryinformation/legislation/ucm148726.htm

Now people think that the 'STATES' have the ultimate authority over the Federal Controlled Substances Act, when they do not. Congress themselves have spelled it out:
Section 903. Application of State law
No provision of this subchapter shall be construed as indicating an intent on the part of the Congress to occupy the field in which that provision operates, including criminal penalties, to the exclusion of any State law on the same subject matter which would otherwise be within the authority of the State, unless there is a positive conflict between that provision of this subchapter and that State law so that the two cannot consistently stand together.

(translation- we let the states do their thing unless it conflicts with what we have said)

(Pub. L. 91-513, title II, Sec. 708, Oct. 27, 1970, 84 Stat. 1284.)
References in Text
This subchapter, referred to in text, was in the original "this title'', meaning title II of Pub. L. 91-513, Oct. 27, 1970, 84 Stat. 1242, as amended, and is popularly known as the "Controlled Substances Act''. For complete classification of title II to the Code, see second paragraph of Short Title note set out under section 801 of this title and Tables.

The 'conflict' is on many levels:
The Federal Government says it's illegal
The U.N. says it's illegal
The States (some) say it is legal, based on certain restrictions (the states do not see it as schedule 1 but schedule 2 or 3)
but, ALL 50 states still fall within the jurisdiction of the FDA (U.S. Food and Drug Administration) and are therefore subject to the controlled substances act and U.N. signed treaties.


Regarding Videotaping of transcations, the most onerous big brother provisions which would have required all patient sales to be videotaped with the patient’s ID placed on a 12 x 12 square along with the patient’s medicine, were overturned after privacy issues and emergency rulings, true This does not overturn the requirements of all MMCs to have a secured DVR system that records activities within the establishment for 'security' reasons. Are you trying to say tell us the MMC won't surrender those recorded activities if a court order is given? Of course they will. And nobody cares if 7-11 or the gas station records you...in fact it may be a good thing there. The courts will never issue a surrender of property order because you bought too many twinkies at 7-11. If you buy over 2 ounces of medicine at an MMC that may raise red flags though. The cameras don't have to stream info to the feds...they just have to come in, shut you down, and review your recordings to see what they want.

You are correct on the release of patient information, that was actually a screw up by a Denver based dispensary- almost one year ago today:
http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=172201

I still stand by my position on the Feds coming for Colorado soon, California and Montana are being put through the screws right now, Colorado is next? We shall see soon enough...
 

SoCoMMJ

Well-Known Member
Fear Mongering? We shall see. I hope you are right but my gov sources say you are not. And NO I won't give you names, for very obvious reasons.
Nobody was doubting that there is a gap between state and federal laws.

I was contesting these statements that you had made:
"Notice that the CDPHE still maintains that the records are 'confidential'. It used to be that but is no more. Bills have given law enforcement (and the now the DHS) access to the system 24/7. There are video cameras in dispensaries watching who buys what and where. NOTHING is safe or confidential any longer."

The CDPHE records have remained confidential and the camera feeds are not providing patient identifying data to the FEDS. I was asking where you saw that there was a breech in patient confidentiality.
 
actually i do, mmj-america boulder is having a end of year blowout $125 onions on select strains it was 100 but oversales made them raise the price
 

Finshaggy

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actually i do, mmj-america boulder is having a end of year blowout $125 onions on select strains it was 100 but oversales made them raise the price
It was 100!! that's bad ass.

I've heard of deals at Denver's MMJ America's also...

I also heard that 2 of the Denver MMJ America's have girls taking stripper classes now (Not for work, but the girls are competing with each other) :D :lol:
 
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