Defoliation - Touchy Subject My Theory (Veg + Flower)

Honestly I think the op is a troll,all he does is run around and create troll topics like this one and his retarded self powered generator nonsense..then leaves and watches the fireworks.Adding to ignore,I got better things to do.

Impman said:

um no plants don't work the same. 100 years ago corn had 4-5 kernels on them. with advances in agriculture we now grow huge husks... same goes with every other kind of plant. including marijuana. I don't defoliate, but sticking with the same old growing practices as in 1960-I don't do either.

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harris hawk said:

Thank you very much !! appreciate your concern in answering me. The "good" out weights the "bad" all ways

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WHERE ALL THIS RETARDS CAME FROM? SOMEBODY PLEASE CLOSE THE CAGE!!! Oh i know now this are your disciples. Damn you @revthenatural

Don't know what to think - a few members of site are not even worth answering let alone reading their post's. "they" drive people off site with their attitude- maybe they need to roll a fat one a think about things - last post !!!!! Doesn't their post's go against what this site is for. I will not recommend this site to other people - were is the ADMIN to put a stop to their input and put downs of other members. he site is only as good as it's members

The "ignore button" is your friend

Don't let the internet get to you

harris hawk said:

Don't know what to think - a few members of site are not even worth answering let alone reading their post's. "they" drive people off site with their attitude- maybe they need to roll a fat one a think about things - last post !!!!! Doesn't their post's go against what this site is for. I will not recommend this site to other people - were is the ADMIN to put a stop to their input and put downs of other members. he site is only as good as it's members

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This thread gave me aids.

hyroot said:

Use side lighting. No more popcorn.

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That is simply not true amigo and confirms you have never grown an outdoor plant. You didn't bother to check or perhaps mentally process my link which included photos. For some, photos is the only thing they're capable of understanding. Here are links again.....

http://rollitup.org/t/giving-defoliation-during-flower-a-try.839655/page-128#post-11170543
"2. The plant received full sun sunrise to sunset from the top to the very bottom of the pot. The lower part of the plant still has popcorn buds.....which flies into the face of every clown here who believes it's the lack of light that induces popcorn buds below the colas....at lower levels."

https://www.rollitup.org/t/giving-defoliation-during-flower-a-try.839655/page-126#post-11165602

As some of us have said a million times in other threads, there's other issues at work which includes plant growth processes and chronological age, the effect of apical dominance, etc. https://www.rollitup.org/t/giving-defoliation-during-flower-a-try.839655/page-31#post-10986496

Uncle Ben said:

That is simply not true amigo and confirms you have never grown an outdoor plant. You didn't bother to check or perhaps mentally process my link which included photos. For some, photos is the only thing they're capable of understanding. Here are links again.....

http://rollitup.org/t/giving-defoliation-during-flower-a-try.839655/page-128#post-11170543
https://www.rollitup.org/t/giving-defoliation-during-flower-a-try.839655/page-126#post-11165602

As some of us have said a million times in other threads, there's other issues at work which includes plant growth processes and chronological age, the effect of apical dominance, etc. https://www.rollitup.org/t/giving-defoliation-during-flower-a-try.839655/page-31#post-10986496

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Wow that is the stupidest response I've ever read. Obviously you've never grown indoor and used side lighting.. if you use side lighting. It's the same idea as doing vert. All lower growth will be the same size as the top growth.

Pick a fight with someone else. I don't have the patience for your stupidity today.

hyroot said:

Wow that is the stupidest response I've ever read. Obviously you've never grown indoor and used side lighting.

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Yes I have, while you was still messin' in your britches young man. Reading one page out of my book does not make you an expert on what I've done nor who I am. Makes you look like an ignorant fool just like your side lighting statements. Roach, an older well seasoned indoor grower out of NY confirmed said his side lighting experiment was a joke regarding popcorn buds and confirmed I was right. It's in one of the Defoil threads....go fetch.

Can you not see or did you not bother to LOOK at the photos of my outdoor grown plant for fear that someone might prove another stupid RIU paradigm wrong? This is why RIU and most cannabis forums can not be taken seriously by bonafide gardeners - too much bullshit....see my sig

This old post applies to you:
"2. The plant received full sun sunrise to sunset from the top to the very bottom of the pot. The lower part of the plant still has popcorn buds.....which flies into the face of every clown here who believes it's the lack of light that induces popcorn buds below the colas....at lower levels."

Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben said:

Yes I have, while you was still messin' in your britches young man. Reading one page out of my book does not make you an expert on what I've done nor who I am. Makes you look like an ignorant fool just like your side lighting statements. Roach, an older well seasoned indoor grower out of NY confirmed said his side lighting experiment was a joke regarding popcorn buds and confirmed I was right. It's in one of the Defoil threads....go fetch.

Can you not see or did you not bother to LOOK at the photos of my outdoor grown plant for fear that someone might prove another stupid RIU paradigm wrong? This is why RIU and most cannabis forums can not be taken seriously by bonafide gardeners - too much bullshit....see my sig

This old post applies to you:
"2. The plant received full sun sunrise to sunset from the top to the very bottom of the pot. The lower part of the plant still has popcorn buds.....which flies into the face of every clown here who believes it's the lack of light that induces popcorn buds below the colas....at lower levels."

Uncle Ben

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I've done your method before several times years ago. It doesn't work very well unless you use your strains. I don't give a Dam about your book. I've read plenty of others old man. From people who have ph d's in their field. Yours is just observation.

This is a troll thread about indoor defoliation. Several people said they defoliate because of the lower popcorn buds. So again of you use side lighting or run vert. You won't have popcorn buds. Go pull a bubbleman and push your book somewhere else. Or create another bullshit thread.

Try reading the thread before you cherry pick your arguments.

hyroot said:

I've done your method before several times years ago. It doesn't work very well unless you use your strains. I don't give a Dam about your book. I've read plenty of others old man. From people who have ph d's in their field. Yours is just observation.

This is a troll thread about indoor defoliation. So again of you use side lighting or run vert. You won't have popcorn buds. Go pull a bubbleman and push your book somewhere else. Or create another bullshit thread.

Try reading the thread before you cherry pick your arguments.

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My use of metaphors and photos went right over your head. I have no book, shit-fer-brains. I have contributed to Cervantes's Bible but that is all.

"Several people said they defoliate because of the lower popcorn buds." And they're also ignorant dumb asses when it comes to plant processes. What's your point?

Uncle Ben said:

My use of metaphors and photos went right over your head. I have no book, shit-fer-brains. I have contributed to Cervantes's Bible but that is all.

"Several people said they defoliate because of the lower popcorn buds." And they're also ignorant dumb asses when it comes to plant processes. What's your point?

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You shouldn't tell anyone you contributed to that book. There's so much bad info in there. Back in the day that's all we had to go on and we followed it to a T. Later learned jorge doesn't know what he's talking about.

Like I said I don't have enough the patience today. .

My point was instead of trying to pull leaves to make larger buds (that doesn't work) try side lighting. . It's pretty self explanatory. .

whitebb2727 said:

No need to remove leaves. If for what ever reason a plant doesn't need a leaf like lack of light, it will shed it.

I like dense foliage. It has shed some lowers due to lack of light penetration.
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Bragger merry Christmas my brother

hyroot said:

My point was instead of trying to pull leaves to make larger buds (that doesn't work) try side lighting. . It's pretty self explanatory. .

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Too bad it doesn't work as I showed in several threads. You need to learn what a makes a plant tick instead of making shit up.

chuck estevez said:

wow, Just went and looked at THE REV's plants and i must say, THEY LOOK LIKE SHIT, sorry Bro, that's the truth.

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Any pics

Uncle Ben said:

Too bad it doesn't work as I showed in several threads. You need to learn what a makes a plant tick instead of making shit up.

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Again try an indoor grow. Look up shade avoidance, phytochrome response, emmerson effect, Mcree curve. You might learn how plants respond to light and how to measure plant lighting. More photons bigger buds.. add side lighting or vert and it will bring more photons to the lower region of the plant. Again self explanatory

Wait! So do I defoliate the bottom third or not? Enquiring minds want to know.

anzohaze said:

Bragger merry Christmas my brother

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Merry Christmas.
You're right. Maybe a little bragging.
A picture is worth a thousand words when making a point.

I need to show the hand full of leaves that have come off.
I build a thick canopy and its OK if a few come off cause there are so many.

I don't see how people think hacking leaves off work. I also don't see the bad about the small buds. I grind and decarb them and make butter.

whitebb2727 said:

Merry Christmas.
You're right. Maybe a little bragging.
A picture is worth a thousand words when making a point.

I need to show the hand full of leaves that have come off.
I build a thick canopy and its OK if a few come off cause there are so many.

I don't see how people think hacking leaves off work. I also don't see the bad about the small buds. I grind and decarb them and make butter.

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IM personally not fond of huge buds when buying bud per say but love growing big buds

The_Herban_Legend said:

Wait! So do I defoliate the bottom third or not? Enquiring minds want to know.

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I believe if your set up requires you too then you prune some lower branching. Set up being short veg time and packing plants into an area. However if your set up is something like 4 plants veged for nice yields with ample air flow and light one might not need too. Pruning some lowers i believe is different then defoliting fan leaves from top too bottom.