Cure For Cancer

poplars

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vaporizing technically isn't freebasing it, you're still using plant matter . . . . . . . boiling it instead of charring it . . . convection instead of flame . . . . . that's nothing like freebase. I get the implications you're trying to use, but they just don't apply here which is why I'm not buying that shit man . . .
 

whiteflour

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The only way to reduce tar is through vaporizing or filters - again no big secret. The government has been censoring the fact that "tar" is the problem (cant advertise low tar, etc), and have only been pointing out that carcinogens found within the tar are. A lot of people are starting to think that it's as simple as smoking Tobacco is Bad, and smoking Marijuana is Good. Well that's certainly easy to believe when 20million people smoke tobacco everyday and admit it, and however many smoke pot but don't.

We do both agree carcinogens are found in both products, and probably that the vaporizing crowd is a niche market. So we aren't concerned with vaporizing, that is fairly safe, so again we both agree. But what these studies are hinting at is the fact that isolated compounds are proving effective - not marijuana. If it's an isolated or freebased form which is patentable. I'm saying, I think the gov has known a lot more about this cancer stuff than they've been letting on.

They funded their own IND marijuana program.
They have ignored these same studies from other reputable groups - while saying they'd "look" into it.

In the meanwhile we have ....

taken over Afghanistan - the king of hash.
taken over Tobacco - the king of cancer (most smoked product worldwide)
taken over Marijuana - the cure for cancer.
feverishly eradicated marijuana worldwide.
forced known carcinogens on the populous. Both through the food chain and most obviously now cigarettes. (the FDA has done this, no one else)


I never really bought into conspiracies before, but that is just too many coincidences, and a perfect business model.
 

Seaghost

Active Member
Wow I was not aware that by using my vaporizer that I was part of some conspiracy :o

And btw where did that first link for the video go? When I try to follow it I get an error about the redirect, I even tried changing the URL and using a different window, some other very boring stuff :sleep:, then I gave up :wall:

Any help would be appreciated.

Peace out :weed:
 

highflyby

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Dang....my sweet photo got passed up.....oh well....worthy of a re-post :D


Edit: seaghost....love the avatar man....its how I feel lighting blunts with my herb-iron :D
 

poplars

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lol it does have a nice ring to it . . . . .

I don't really get why this guy is still trippin about this shit. sure big pharma can patent their own concentrations of cannabinoids just for themselves . . . doesn't mean people don't have incentive to go after the real thing. the real thing has infinite variation on the cannabinoid levels, and even has potential to create new cannabinoids in future breeds. that's not something anyone can patent or control, which is one of the main reasons this amazing plant has been illegal for so long.
 

ronnie69

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There has been two independant studies done at American universities that prove cancerous tumours can be eliminated with cannabis...ps also the only thing known to kill the herpes virus dead,but the company that makes Valtrex doesn't want us to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 

RavenMochi

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whiteflour, how is govt going to get "absolute" control over cannabis if even now when its illegal people still grow it....alot of things can be controlled, good luck doing that with a plant....
 

whiteflour

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We'll still have the real thing sure, they're loosening the grip on marijuana..... now. But thats why I don't find it surprising. They've had almost 40 years now for R&D and production, as well as blocking any possible patent attempts, while getting their political ducks in a row. It's probably as simple as they don't need the plant anymore.

They certainly couldn't pull out "the cure" without an adequete supply. That'd be all out war on the grand scale.
 

poplars

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We'll still have the real thing sure, they're loosening the grip on marijuana..... now. But thats why I don't find it surprising. They've had almost 40 years now for R&D and production, as well as blocking any possible patent attempts, while getting their political ducks in a row. It's probably as simple as they don't need the plant anymore.

They certainly couldn't pull out "the cure" without an adequete supply. That'd be all out war on the grand scale.
strains are too badass for most people to drop the 'real thing'. you should seriously stop trippin
 

RavenMochi

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I think Im starting to see where WhiteFlour is going with this, and for the law abiding citizens, that will definitely be a possibility. but at the same time that goes with personal responsibility. If I KNOW something can cure me, AND I have access to it, I'm not going to give a rats shit about the legality. But there are those that refuse to break laws that will suffer dearly for their obedience, and will be thrown over the barrel as they've done they're whole lives because that's what they believe they are supposed to do, but its a choice they made, to be obedient, or use the brain God gave you.
For the people on this forum, I don't really see this becoming a problem....we will continue to do what we do now, grow our own...
 

whiteflour

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It's not so much tripping. I'm just looking at the bigger picture knowing what's happened with the tobacco industry. This FDA has lead to some really odd anomalies, and they weren't interested in tobacco, at first.


Fire safe cigarette laws could be expanded to mean only "electronic cigarettes"
- Big Tobacco fought that for 30years and finally the states "forced" it by passing a bunch of state legislation. The same tactic used to censor them with the MSA. A flurry of frivolous liablity suits.

Electronic cigarettes are regulated as "drug delivery" devices and subject to FDA approval. Vaporizers would probably fall under this or nebulizers if not explicitly banned.
- Big Tobacco fought that and won, but it was over turned through appeals.

Drug paraphanelia is already banned.
- Operation pipe dreams reinforced that.


Basically the way I see it is Big Tobacco was the last straw. With them out of the way and regulated no one with a mouth, money, and interest in civil rights can challenge the legality of a regulated plant. It's as simple as rescheduling marijuana and saying it must be administered through an electronic cigarette.

The only thing left now is Taxes which they are trialing in California. ;)
 

whiteflour

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So you're saying People don't have a RIGHT to have a plant as an economy? An economy that supplies a whole region? What about our other economies? Oil? Steel? Autos? Airplanes? Textiles? Agriculture? Look around that stuff still exists, we just don't build it. We've shut down EVERY industry we had. We've shut down the unions, so the people don't have a voice, and now a few corrupt corporations named SENATE and CONGRESS run the show.

Tobacco was literally the last FREE MARKET we had in this economy. The rest are just scams run by the puppets of government. Healthcare, National Military, and the Banking System. I refuse to be part of any of them.

Real coporations are simply scapegoats.
 

highflyby

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strains are too badass for most people to drop the 'real thing'. you should seriously stop trippin
Your wrong, people are smoking this k2 , and other synthetic cannabinoid sprayed stuff and are starting to convince me it's worth it to start smoking ...mostly because I got fucked on this deal...and now prohibition has driven up the cost of my natural medicine beyond what I can afford anymore.
 

Seaghost

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Hey thanks for the links NOOW, great stuff all of that. Really makes a person aware how the government and big business has snookered the public as to the true benefits and low risk of MJ. Just another reason to distrust Prop 19 in Cali since big business is behind it and to try to replace most incumbents come November.

Peace out :weed:
 

poplars

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Your wrong, people are smoking this k2 , and other synthetic cannabinoid sprayed stuff and are starting to convince me it's worth it to start smoking ...mostly because I got fucked on this deal...and now prohibition has driven up the cost of my natural medicine beyond what I can afford anymore.
but that's still irrelevant to whiteflours comment . . . . he's saying in a legalized environment people are going to choose the synthetics over the real thing . . . . not in an illegal environment which I totally agree with you, is forcing places that are totally dry to scrounge for whatever they can.


be careful with that shit, I'd only vape it if I were you, but even then I don't know wtf else is in it so . . .
 

lowryder666

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but that's still irrelevant to whiteflours comment . . . . he's saying in a legalized environment people are going to choose the synthetics over the real thing . . . . not in an illegal environment which I totally agree with you, is forcing places that are totally dry to scrounge for whatever they can.


be careful with that shit, I'd only vape it if I were you, but even then I don't know wtf else is in it so . . .
Right on. I'd never touch that shit with a bargepole. The plant has been proven safe (over thousands of years)
 

whiteflour

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WE'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A HOLOCAUST PEOPLE. They are going to tell us Pot is the cure and we're going to panic. Every president has been a pansy to the cause.

Ever MAJOR scandal has been a Counter intelligence and Infiltration. Think about it. Every corporation had a Union. The nukes are protecting the pot!

It's a Communist Conspiracy! We have to stand up now!
 
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