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creatine and B-12 for drug test?

Discussion in 'Legal Edge' started by yamahaman91, Sep 25, 2008.

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    yamahaman91

    yamahaman91 Active Member

    so vie got a drug test on the horizon (summer job searching) smoke a bowl a week ago, so i don't think i'm in to much trouble. i've heard of diluting your piss to get a negative result, and an article i read says vitamin B-12 will keep your piss yellow and the creatine levels are measured to make sure your not dilutiing it.

    so I've got this creatine bodybuilding stuff from wally world and a multivitamin that says 133% daily value of B-12. if i start on creatine and double dose the vitamins a couple day before the test, will it be enough to pass.
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    vantheman169

    vantheman169 Well-Known Member

    alot of civillian jobs do test for dilution, my wife had a job that checked for a certain amount of Creatine to be in her system. And she had to sign a piece of paper saying she would not drink more than 8 Oz of water. We had some home THC tests that we bought off ebay, and she took one, the night before her drug test, she had not smoked for 7 days, and she failed that test. But after ddrinking more than a half gallon of water, and taking a creatine supplment (complex i think it was) and mixed that nasty stuff with water and some Crystal light to add some flavor. And she took some Viatimin B complex for color, and guess what she pissed about 4 times before going into the test, and 5 days later she was hired! It works bro, just though you would want to know. Also you can get THC tests on ebay for 10 Test strips for 12 bucks or so. Good Luck!! And she passed the DILUTION part of the test! I am still proud of myself for the research i did on that one! I have passed drug tests in my day and never had a dilution test to pass, but yay it works! lol :leaf:
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    vantheman169

    vantheman169 Well-Known Member

    Oh and on top of that if you smoked only a week ago, depending on how much you smoked before that and how frequent, you can pass a piss test no problem now, my advice, is get the tests off of ebay and make sure they are up the the Federal Cut Off limit of 50 NG (nanograms) samsha i believe it is called. Good luck!
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    jro413

    jro413 Active Member

    wat if they take hair samples!
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    vantheman169

    vantheman169 Well-Known Member

    then ur screwed get some shampoo i have heard it works. Dont know from expierience though. But most places dont do Hair tests cuz its expensive!
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    bradlyallen2

    bradlyallen2 Well-Known Member

    In urine whay is actually looked for is creatinine which is a byproduct of the metabolism of creatine. It is directly related to the efficacy with which your kidneys create urine. Unlike other minerals such as sodium and potassium which are found in urine in a manner that varies with that of your serum plasma (blood), normal kidneys produce a predictable amount of urine creatinine per a given volume of urine, thus thwarting any attempts at dilution. So to answer your question, no, taking excess creatine will not increase your urine creatinine levels so you can dilute the sample back to normal. It will likely end up stored in your muscles where it acts as an intermediate fuel source bridging anaerobic metabolism and the aerobic pathways.
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    bradlyallen2

    bradlyallen2 Well-Known Member

    As an aside if your drink lots of water and urinate lots of times prior to your test your sample will still have creatinine in the proper proportions but MAY not contain sufficient THC metabolites to produce a positive for marijuana
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    vantheman169

    vantheman169 Well-Known Member

    Bro you sound like you know what your talking about but i know from FIRST hand expierience that my wife passed a DILUTION and THC test and pissed 4 or 5 times before taking the test! It said on the paper work that they test for 20 NG or somthing like that, anything below and she would have to retake the test. So believe what you may i know what has worked for us. So we will keep doing what we know works. Cheers!:leaf:
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    droogz

    droogz Active Member

    As a side note if you are going to drink the creatine powder mix it with whole milk instead of water. It tastes allot better. I used to take it when lifting weights at the gym.
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    zelfna90

    zelfna90 Member

    dude i know this is two years old but whole milk induces fat to the body unless there working out i would go with the water
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    unshaved pubes

    unshaved pubes New Member

    what are you a hippy?!?
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    zelfna90

    zelfna90 Member

    I'd like to think so
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    dopeoligist

    dopeoligist Member

    The best thing you can use to pass a drug screen is buy these water purification tablets from wal-mart. They are called potable aqua. You dissolve a tablet in a bottle of water. Drink the the whole bottle, then follow it up with another bottle. then in your 3rd bottle use another tablet...you dont have to keep using tablets every other bottle, but some people rather it that way...anyways after taking the tablet pee at least 2 times prior to the test.
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    Florida homeGrown

    Florida homeGrown Member

    Sorry you are WRONG yes it will work and the beginning if your post is true.however any excess creatine is excreted,actually a large amount of what you take in the supplement, that's why creatine supplementation doesnt work on everyone.and the OP has the right Idea.the way the lab detects dilution is by measuring your creatinine levels.if you are below said level you are considered diluted because of above statement,creatinine is normally released in relation to processed urine.hoWever when you supplement the creatine your creatinine levels increase there by masking your dilution.there is creatinine lower level but no ceiling, as long as your above that your good.LOOK at ingredients to all the detox drinks.it's creatine and b vitamins for color.so you know the reason I know this I'm registered medical assistant,my specialty is urology.I run at least 45 ua a day in clinic.and when I was doing my clinicals for certification,I worked in a phlebotomy lab which also contacted for urine drug testing.
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    Seed01

    Seed01 New Member

    Hey @Florida homeGrown,

    I am sorry to bother you but I would like to get your advice as you are a professional within the lab industry. The thing is I got a job few days ago but there is a drug test in 2 days to confirm that I can be entitle for the job. However, I did not know that I would have to do one and I smoked last weekend.. What would be your advice to get a result almost negative for the test? I would welcome your help.
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    Florida homeGrown

    Florida homeGrown Member

    Ok g
    Ok glad I saw this today then as to be able to help.believe it or not I was actually tested today( Tuesday,11am) with last night as notice.and I took xannax on Sunday am.kinda same deal as u.I'm still very confident as to passing.but that's why I was searching around the info again anyways,had to put my money where my mouth is.Ok so 2 days,first don't take any drugs,but give me background,what kind of test,do u have to go to lab for test like quest or labcorp?if so did they give u a lab requisition form,basically a paper to take to lab?if so what exactly does it say,what's checked?
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    Seed01

    Seed01 New Member

    Thank you for your response!!
    Well I have no more information than you.. They did not give me anything. I will have to go to the office and then we will go to the point to do it. The last time I smoked was Sunday, however it was not so huge. I just know that I will have a drug test. So since yesterday I started to drink cranberry and pomegranate juice in huge quantity with water as well, vitamine B, zinc.. and I changed my diet into a fiber diet with loads of vegetables. I try to avoid fat food and I ran yesterday and today as well!
    I do hope it will be just a urine test as I do not have more information, so will see how it goes.
    However I don't know what I have to do on the day of the drug test? Perhaps too much water will do a test diluted resulting to a fail.
    What do you think?
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    Florida homeGrown

    Florida homeGrown Member

    Ok the water that u drink right now is not going to help your test Sunday unfortunately.excessive water only dilutes your sample for an hour or 2 after u drink it.and the reason people think cranberry helps is because years back doctors would tell patient's to drink cranberry juice to ease pain from urinary infections and bladder inflammation.it helps ease pain of I.c. which is intersistitis which inflames the bladder very bad in woman.however they no longer recommend it,they recommend cranberry pills which have larger amount of concentration.anyways the water and fruit won't help yet.now you may have a good chance so be prepared for it all.first thing you may get lucky and not be observed.so get urself some tight compression shorts.the kind that is like boxer shorts that have a pocket that holds a cup athletic support to protect ur balls.get some clean urine the day before .or same day.put it in a condom, wash out condom first.fill it for about 2 ounces 60ml to be safe.if day before put in bottle in fridge or it'll grow bacteria and stink.if fridge leave out day of give bout 30 sec in microwave before condom.make sure the support is tight.this allows you to put the condom right against your body and keep warm as body temp.also clip a safety pin in there so if u are not observed they will make you wash hands and empty pockets.they will tell u fill cup n do not flush toilet.they will stand outside of door.you can take condom out poke with pin our in cup.it will be right temp and clean.put condom back in underwear after rest in toilet.boom your good.be prepared for this even if you flush because it's guaranteed clean urine.when I was tested at labcorp and assist for a job that never went in with me.be prepared for this!now if they do saliva test you should be good.it ONLY hours back a couple days.it tests for recent use.if it will be a few days til test and you don't smoke every day you should be ok.also if it's saliva and they don't watch you(your supposed to hold it for three to 5 mins), try n hold in middle of mouth not on tongue or cheek.now if worst case they give you a urine test and observe you(most time they don't for employment) then you need to be flushed but loaded with creatine so they don't know its flushed aka diluted.(I'm gonna post this so far so it don't erase on my phone.)
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    Florida homeGrown

    Florida homeGrown Member

    Now to be prepared for the test incase you have to use your own urine.asap like tonite,get some creatine.creatine blend,creatine monohydrate or micronized creatine.it's in pharmacy section by diet aid and protein powders.powder and powder mixes are much cheaper than the pills.start immediately taking the recommended dose and double it to be safe.take when you get it, and before you go to sleep.take double dose at least each day before test to flood your system with excess creatine.your body processes this into creatinine which is used as a level to judge if you Jane diluted your urine to las test.if you have large amount of this they will not notice that the test of urine urine is diluted.I'll try n post a study that proves this.anyways.while you are losing with creatine these days before you do not have to drink a ton of water yet there is no reason.only what's needed to drink creatine.the day of wake up early and get your first urine don't in your toilet.that is the most concentrated of the day, never give that one.take your last big dose of creatine about 2 hours before test.try and urinate as many times as you can before you go for test.I went 6 times before I signed in today.after your first Dodd that day go with like 16.oz of water at first than try and take 8 oz every 15 mins.for the first hour or so you still will not be urinating much.when you start to get ready you will be going every ten to fifteen minutes.if you have not reached this point do all you can to postpone test.say you have to poop if u have to to get off extra urine.you will know when it is going cuz it is GOING! I made point to go 6 times before I have sample.when you do go if observed when you start urinating start first bit of flow in toilet, and then start catching in cup.do not give beginning of stream in cup it has most metabolites.if unobserved give sample in the condom, the clean stuff! Ask how much they need of observed and try and give just a little more than you have to.less to test less chance to fail.now if you are loaded on creatine and have been urinating ALOT first you should be good.now you were worried about it showing diluted, if you have the creatine it won't however, it's better if it looked a bit diluted than confirmed dirty.but again if you Jane the creatine you are good.drink it work every drink the day of, all water I drank was creatine mix.Wal-Mart had a kind that is mixed in acoolaid.also I'd you have multi vitamin take that day of test double dose to help color yellow.hope this helps you and anyone else.this all information needs to be in one place so you Mr and everyone else facing a test does not have to drive themselves crazy getting bad information and all these people saying nothing works out your going to fail, dumb stuff like then don't do drugs.if they don't agree with this stuff then don't read it and don't comment.I believe that marijuana itself is a natural substance that has immense medicinal value and not only needs to be studied for its benefits but be decriminalized in all us states.hope this helps and good luck! You have to be dedicated to pass this after the first couple cups and having to urinate so many times you may be tempted to abandon plan.you will regret it! Stay strong.
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    Seed01

    Seed01 New Member

    Ok thank you so much for the good tips!!
    I will up for the creatine and keep going with my diet, so we will see!!
    However if I have well understood using the creatine would be useful to hide urine diluted.
    But what happens if they find that I used loads of creatine? Would it be considerate as a fail test or positive test?

    By the way I go to the gym since years so...

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