COVID-19 WILL SEIZE YOUR RIGHTS & DESTROY OUR ECONOMY

Here's another thought.
I see a lot of businesses crying their not going to make it. That is a shame. And some of those businesses were actually a good idea or successful.
My opinion is that many of these ridiculous businesses were never going to make it anyway. People open the most STUPIDLY planned businesses and pretty much sealed their fate when they opened.
My town is full of dumb ass stores and stupid concept businesses that will never thrive.

The Hippy said:

Not much use a having a business if your customer are all dead or sick. Can't you see the big picture? A month does not a lifetime make.

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Lol, you're making covid sound like its the touch of death. Some of us might die but most of us will be broke is the real big picture.

It is the touch of death for seniors.

The 60,000 deaths tRUmp predicted as a total has already been more than that in 2 months, and counting.

Overall theres already going to be 100,000s+ die, and if they fuck around the second wave will make the 1st wave look like nothing. Its possible that in the next 40 days or less, we will break 100,000 deaths. As of yesterday 1700 day are dying.

The second wave in 1918 was far worse then the 1st wave, and Fauci says there IS a second wave coming in the fall.

redi jedi said:

Lol, you're making covid sound like its the touch of death. Some of us might die but most of us will be broke is the real big picture.

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Hope you and I are not the " some of us " or any of my relatives or yours. And yes it very well could be the "touch of death" for many folks. What's so funny about that?
Some very great folks have already died from this.
You sure dishonor those who have imo by acting cavalier about their demises.

The Hippy said:

This is why sheep need to be lead

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About how many people will die if there is reduced food produced or a "blockade" on the freedom to work and the free ability to make life choices is altered by criminally threatening governments ? Millions? Billions?

For instance, the USA and it's allies is said to have caused deaths of 500,000 Iraqi children when it invaded Iraq under false pretenses and the "we're all in this together crowd" didn't seem to care much about THOSE deaths. Yet the corona virus sheep, seem more than happy to follow the top down orders from the same gangs that killed all those Iraqi kids. Don't you find that at least a little disconcerting ?

For the record the virus "death total" and death percentages are inaccurate, but even if we agreed that a large number of people have died from it, it still doesn't mean any person has a right to lock people down.

Where would that right even come from, if you or I don't have it and don't agree to it ? Doubt you will give an answer on that question.

Sheep ARE being lead, over a cliff.

The Hippy said:

Hope you and I are not the " some of us " or any of my relatives or yours. And yes it very well could be the "touch of death" for many folks. What's so funny about that?
Some very great folks have already died from this.
You sure dishonor those who have imo by acting cavalier about their demises.

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Im not being cavalier about anything, Im being real. Covid is fatal for a small group of people and those are the people that should quarantine IMO

redi jedi said:

...Covid is fatal for a small group of people and those are the people that should quarantine...

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Not only them, this must also include the people who enter their environment's perimeter, except perhaps those who chose to reside on-site... Meanwhile quick/portable testing devices remain my best hope given the immediate situation, because it shall be urgent to identify transmission vectors once inside, otherwise it's going to propagate like a fire.

jimihendrix1 said:

It is the touch of death for seniors.

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Government actions which cause death are known as democide.

Historical democide has killed more people than this virus will kill. Government is not a peaceful institution, since it arises from involuntary human relations and all of their edicts are backed by the use of , or threats of force.

To order people under threat of force for noncompliance is not many steps away from democide is it ? What will eventually happen to any people who disobey an edict? Will they be killed if they continuously disobey?

Let Grandpa decide. If he wants to self quarantine, he should. Forcing a person to shut down their business, isn't a peaceful act. All people have a right to self determine.

Which part of what is stated or implied above is inaccurate?

Whataboutism.

More people have died in 2.5 months from this virus, than killed in Vietnam.

2502 people died yesterday. In 24 hours

Heart disease kills 1770 per day.

People go out and congregate, and when they get sick expect the first responders to treat them.

More Whataboutism. I dont feel my rights have been compromised at all.

Your also in a HUGE MINORITY.

The vast majority of the american population is in favor of the lockdown.

April 22, 2020
Only 12% of Americans say the measures where they live go too far. About twice as many people, 26%, believe the limits don’t go far enough. The majority of Americans — 61% — feel the steps taken by government officials to prevent infections of COVID-19 in their area are about right.

87% feel like its about right, or Not Nearly Enough.

87% want at least the procedure that is currently in use.

87%. HUGE MARGIN. Only 12% Percent say they go to far.

jimihendrix1 said:

More people have died in 2.5 months from this virus, than killed in Vietnam

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Viet Nam didn't need to happen. The same type of people that made it happen, are the same type of people calling the quarantine and virus related shots. When you tabulate Viet Nam deaths, I hope you're thinking of ALL of them. MILLIONS of Viet Namese died, let's not forget them.

I was hoping you would answer my question. Which part of what I said is wrong or do you disagree with ?

I have some work to do, but may be able to come back this evening to address the rest of your post, that should give you plenty of time to answer my one question. Time for me to do my old man pushups now and then get to work outside.

jimihendrix1 said:

Whataboutism.

More people have died in 2.5 months from this virus, than killed in Vietnam.

2502 people died yesterday. In 24 hours

Heart disease kills 1770 per day.

People go out and congregate, and when they get sick expect the first responders to treat them.

More Whataboutism. I dont feel my rights have been compromised at all.

Your also in a HUGE MINORITY.

The vast majority of the american population is in favor of the lockdown.

April 22, 2020
Only 12% of Americans say the measures where they live go too far. About twice as many people, 26%, believe the limits don’t go far enough. The majority of Americans — 61% — feel the steps taken by government officials to prevent infections of COVID-19 in their area are about right.

87% feel like its about right, or Not Nearly Enough.

87% want at least the procedure that is currently in use.

87%. HUGE MARGIN. Only 12% Percent say they go to far.

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Maybe that is the situation in the US but its not in Canada. I think the total deaths here is around 2000 maybe 2500, honestly I stopped paying attention to the numbers.

Egzoset said:

Not only them, this must also include the people who enter their environment's perimeter, except perhaps those who chose to reside on-site... Meanwhile quick/portable testing devices remain my best hope given the immediate situation, because it shall be urgent to identify transmission vectors once inside, otherwise it's going to propagate like a fire.

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That would be difficult considering most of people entering that perimeter would be health care or personal support workers. Im sure these people would be following a strict PPE protocol.