Convinced it's more than a coincidence

jtprin

Well-Known Member
what??/ do you even read what you write?? the whole basis of this thread is that big pharma is the reason why weed is illegal, then when i say that big pharma will not lose a red cent if weed becomes illegal simply for the fact that weed does not cure nor help tons of diseases / illnesses / ailments, you say it has nothing to do with anything??
my friends wife needs to get her blood transfused, i guess she should smoke a joint instead right?? and once again, show me where i ever said you called weed a cure all drug..
Already answered this, refer to the other posts.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
It's not about the drugs it eliminates, it's about the diseases it can treat/cure. Pharmacies make tons of money off cancer patients. If some of those forms of cancer can be cured by marijuana, then they lose out on all the money they could make off that patient IF that patient decides to use marijuana as a medication.
lmao, just as i thought.. you can't name one drug that would be off of the market today if weed became legal, not a single one...

thread fail much??
 

kine

Member
I believe marijuana is illegal for the main purpose of our government wanting more money and more population control. Not only would the big pharmacies lose money if marijuana (in all forms) was executed to its full potential to treat and cure people w/ debilitating diseases, but they get to control the population at the same time. How? Because keeping marijuana (again, in all forms) illegal prevents millions of people from having the opportunity to survive. Doesn't it seem a bit odd that the ONE natural product (w/ essentially zero negative side-effects) known to cure cancer is illegal... yet, the biggest cancer-causing product, cigarettes, is completely legal?

For pharmacies, profit is limited when patients are cured. They don't want that. They want their patients using their highly-addictive and ineffective medications instead, to keep you coming back for more.

I think you are right on this part about pop. controll,money or just basicly greed.here is only one of the reasons i think so http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUG_JAbtziY (Woman Diagnosed with Crohn's Disease Cures Herself with Tree Bark).
 

jtprin

Well-Known Member
lmao, just as i thought.. you can't name one drug that would be off of the market today if weed became legal, not a single one...

thread fail much??
The real failure was your school system. Drugs may or may not stay onthe market but if marijuana is curing diseases they obviously aren't going to be sold as much and therefore they LOSE MONEY.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
The real failure was your school system. Drugs may or may not stay onthe market but if marijuana is curing diseases they obviously aren't going to be sold as much and therefore they LOSE MONEY.
come on mr pride of your school. show me real proof that weed is the cure for any illness, other then not wanting to eat..
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
and ps, you act like if weed does suddenly be found to cure anything that big pharma won't be the first in a long line of people who will make a pharma grade cannabis and make the real thing worthless..
 

theQuetzalcoatl

Active Member
come on, you honestly believe that? tell me 10 drugs that weed would eliminate right now if it became legal.. i'm listening..
For the record I agree with you. However for fun and science. Here's a list. Gonna shoot for more than ten.

Appetite enhancers,

Dronabinol
Megestrol
Somatotropin

Opiate Pain relievers

Morphine
Codine
Hydrocodone
Oxycodone
Methadone
Fentanyl
Meperidine

That's ten, continuing.

In many cases it can replace prescription Nsaids (anti inflammatory) of which there are more than I'm going to type. (I came up with a dozen)

These are known uses, without addressing cancer treatment or any other anecdotal uses. I think it's safe to say that it has the potential to dent the bottom line but I don't believe it's "THE" reason weed is illegal.

 

jtprin

Well-Known Member
come on mr pride of your school. show me real proof that weed is the cure for any illness, other then not wanting to eat..
http://www.smartplanet.com/blog/bulletin/is-marijuana-a-potential-cure-for-cancer/762

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/19/marijuana-and-cancer_n_1898208.html

http://www.endalldisease.com/harvard-study-says-marijuana-cures-cancer/

The only clinical trial testing THC as a treatment against cancer growth was a recently completed British pilot study. For three weeks, researchers injected standard doses of THC into mice that had been implanted with human lung cancer cells, and found that tumors were reduced in size and weight by about 50 percent in treated animals compared to a control group. There was also about a 60 percent reduction in cancer lesions on the lungs in these mice as well as a significant reduction in protein markers associated with cancer progression.

And then of course the Rick Sampson story... there are plenty of instances, links, studies, etc.
 

jtprin

Well-Known Member
and ps, you act like if weed does suddenly be found to cure anything that big pharma won't be the first in a long line of people who will make a pharma grade cannabis and make the real thing worthless..
Are you serious? If weed was legal completely you could grow your own and pharmacies would get absolutely nothing.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
For the record I agree with you. However for fun and science. Here's a list. Gonna shoot for more than ten.

Appetite enhancers,

Dronabinol
Megestrol
Somatotropin

Opiate Pain relievers

Morphine
Codine
Hydrocodone
Oxycodone
Methadone
Fentanyl
Meperidine

That's ten, continuing.

In many cases it can replace prescription Nsaids (anti inflammatory) of which there are more than I'm going to type. (I came up with a dozen)

These are known uses, without addressing cancer treatment or any other anecdotal uses. I think it's safe to say that it has the potential to dent the bottom line but I don't believe it's "THE" reason weed is illegal.

come on, you just had an operation and got your hip replaced lets say like me moms just did.. if the dr tried to hand her a blunt over a few percs i'd be the first to jump up and punch him in the face and ask wtf are you thinking??

weed may help minor aches and pains, but i'd be damned if i think it could ever replace an opiate pain killer for severe pain like broken arms and legs and shit...
 

jtprin

Well-Known Member
come on, you just had an operation and got your hip replaced lets say like me moms just did.. if the dr tried to hand her a blunt over a few percs i'd be the first to jump up and punch him in the face and ask wtf are you thinking??

weed may help minor aches and pains, but i'd be damned if i think it could ever replace an opiate pain killer for severe pain like broken arms and legs and shit...
Again, this is where you're retarded. Nobody said weed is going to cure everything and obviously other drugs can do things marijuana cannot do. That being said, that doesn't mean marijuana can't do things others can't either... like curing and treating certain forms of cancer without any negative side effects.
 

theQuetzalcoatl

Active Member
come on, you just had an operation and got your hip replaced lets say like me moms just did.. if the dr tried to hand her a blunt over a few percs i'd be the first to jump up and punch him in the face and ask wtf are you thinking??

weed may help minor aches and pains, but i'd be damned if i think it could ever replace an opiate pain killer for severe pain like broken arms and legs and shit...

You'd be wrong. I rolled a motorcycle. Smashed my patella, broke the tibia in 4 directions and sheared off the tibial plateau. I have SEVERE osteoarthritis and am pretty much holding a useless knee together with a carbon fibre brace. Weed is AS or more effective than ANY opiate I've used in the 13 years I've been coping with this injury.
 

Dr. Greenhorn

Well-Known Member
opiates help my pain, herb helps my pain. but opiates + herb does wonders for my pains. they work in synergy for me.

just adding to the convo, lol
 

jtprin

Well-Known Member
You'd be wrong. I rolled a motorcycle. Smashed my patella, broke the tibia in 4 directions and sheared off the tibial plateau. I have SEVERE osteoarthritis and am pretty much holding a useless knee together with a carbon fibre brace. Weed is AS or more effective than ANY opiate I've used in the 13 years I've been coping with this injury.
He thinks everyone is the same and that if opiates helped one person more than weed would, it would affect everyone the same way. No, not at all, some people could just be swayed into using opiates for the fear of being arrested for using an illegal substance.
 

racerboy71

bud bootlegger
You'd be wrong. I rolled a motorcycle. Smashed my patella, broke the tibia in 4 directions and sheared off the tibial plateau. I have SEVERE osteoarthritis and am pretty much holding a useless knee together with a carbon fibre brace. Weed is AS or more effective than ANY opiate I've used in the 13 years I've been coping with this injury.
you might be so stoned out of your gourd that you don't care about the pain, but there is no way that weed is a better pain killer than an opiate based medication.. i won't believe it..
i've been smoking over 20 years, and when i fall down and break a bone and smoke joint,i might not care about the pain as much as i did before i was stoned, but it's no where near the same thing as me taking an oxy or w/e..
 

jtprin

Well-Known Member
you might be so stoned out of your gourd that you don't care about the pain, but there is no way that weed is a better pain killer than an opiate based medication.. i won't believe it..
i've been smoking over 20 years, and when i fall down and break a bone and smoke joint,i might not care about the pain as much as i did before i was stoned, but it's no where near the same thing as me taking an oxy or w/e..
And your experiences apply to everyone else?
 

theQuetzalcoatl

Active Member
you might be so stoned out of your gourd that you don't care about the pain, but there is no way that weed is a better pain killer than an opiate based medication.. i won't believe it..
i've been smoking over 20 years, and when i fall down and break a bone and smoke joint,i might not care about the pain as much as i did before i was stoned, but it's no where near the same thing as me taking an oxy or w/e..
As a matter of fact I'm FAR more functional using weed. I'm getting up and out of the house more, happier and healthier overall. My pain is permanent something I get to live with for the rest of my life. But I assure you proper application of marijuana (as evidenced by my experience) is as effective if not more than using prescription opiates. Your mom just had a hip replaced?
Put some of this together and have her rub it on her hip and tell me MJ doesn't work.

10 grams decarboxylated BHO.
8 grams unrefined virgin coconut oil
.7 grams cinnamon bark oil
.7 grams cinnamon leaf oil
.7 grams liquid gum myrrh
 
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