co2? is it worth the investment?

it doesn't cost that much to get co2 going in your grow room. You can get a regulator from nehydro.com for about $120 and it comes with everything you need except the tank. I rent my co2 tank from a local welding store and it only cost me $20 to fill it. depending on the size of your room will tell how much you want to use. I dial mine in real low because I don't have an air tester...more money. I did buy the $15 air syringe tester and it does work pretty well. In all though....it does show huge on your yield. Hope this helps a little.

98$ have this in a 4x4x6 tent works great

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Thanks for the help

I use Co2 I have the Titan Atlas 1 co2 monitor hooked up to a regulator and tank, its definitely worth it. You can even kill pests and mites with it. My monitor cost me about 700 bucks. You can buy a tank or rent one and refills are about 15-20 dollars at the welding store most hydro shops have co2 tanks you can trade in for a little more money. Just make sure you really have a sealed environment dont use it if you are using a portable AC it will just suck all your co2 out and exhaust it. YOu can use co2 in higher temps like up to 85 degrees. Blast your co2 to 10,000 PPM and it kills all bugs and mites if you ever get any. You use co2 at lights on the plants eat that shit up and make fresh new oxygen.

I chose to not use CO2 becasue i am using fresh air to cool my room. I think you need a completely sealed room which TO ME means air cooled hoods and ductless AC that doesnt need return air from the grow room. This also means, or so it seems, that you wouldnt need a carbon filter to scrub exhaust because there isnt any. This means your room has to be sealed better than most people can do

CO2 users are assuming that the MMJ can use more than what is in the air. My research has shown that the plants in our world today have adapted to current ambient CO2 content. That being said, people claim that some studies have shown increased yileds but they are in EXTREMELY well controlled environments. I suggest not investing in CO2 until you have superb control of all the other factors in your grow. My point is that there are many other factors(for the most part) we, as growers, can perfect that will have more dramatic effects on yield. CO2 is for people who have the money and the proper room setup.

chasmtz said:

I chose to not use CO2 becasue i am using fresh air to cool my room. I think you need a completely sealed room which TO ME means air cooled hoods and ductless AC that doesnt need return air from the grow room. This also means, or so it seems, that you wouldnt need a carbon filter to scrub exhaust because there isnt any. This means your room has to be sealed better than most people can do

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Co2 users still use a carbon scrubber we just set it on the floor with the fan attached to it... It's taking all the old air and scrubbing it making it good clean air and returning it to the room.

chasmtz said:

CO2 users are assuming that the MMJ can use more than what is in the air. My research has shown that the plants in our world today have adapted to current ambient CO2 content. That being said, people claim that some studies have shown increased yileds but they are in EXTREMELY well controlled environments. I suggest not investing in CO2 until you have superb control of all the other factors in your grow. My point is that there are many other factors(for the most part) we, as growers, can perfect that will have more dramatic effects on yield. CO2 is for people who have the money and the proper room setup.

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Yes, I agree dont buy a Co2 tank, regulator and monitor unless you have a correctly sealed environment. That means you have to pull air from another room to go through your hood to cool your lights, then exhaust that somewhere like outside or in the attic as I do.

chasmtz said:

CO2 users are assuming that the MMJ can use more than what is in the air. My research has shown that the plants in our world today have adapted to current ambient CO2 content. That being said, people claim that some studies have shown increased yileds but they are in EXTREMELY well controlled environments. I suggest not investing in CO2 until you have superb control of all the other factors in your grow. My point is that there are many other factors(for the most part) we, as growers, can perfect that will have more dramatic effects on yield. CO2 is for people who have the money and the proper room setup.

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lol your research yes lets just take a unknown persons word for it with absolutely zero credentials. Please you speak of extensive research you must have some data, graphs, conclusions, summarys etc...???Please show us something extreamly courious in this research .Before you get accused of being completely full of shit...
Then i will show you my research data stating that YES that's the exact way co2 works.
85 degree is ideal when using co2 can even crank it up to 88. This makes the plant transpire more, which make the plants stomatas start to contract and dilate more often. There for breathing more co2.
And what happens to the human body when you increase the oxygen input.
Look up blood doping for this one if your curious

suTraGrow said:

lol your research yes lets just take a unknown persons word for it with absolutely zero credentials. Please you speak of extensive research you must have some data, graphs, conclusions, summarys etc...???Please show us something extreamly courious in this research .Before you get accused of being completely full of shit...
Then i will show you my research data stating that YES that's the exact way co2 works.
85 degree is ideal when using co2 can even crank it up to 88. This makes the plant transpire more, which make the plants stomatas start to contract and dilate more often. There for breathing more co2.
And what happens to the human body when you increase the oxygen input.
Look up blood doping for this one if your curious

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Very True.. I know growers who use co2 and will keep temps 85-90 degrees with great success. I guarantee that 99% of growers would have installed co2 tanks, regulators and monitors if they were $100 dollars.

BeaverHuntr said:

Very True.. I know growers who use co2 and will keep temps 85-90 degrees with great success. I guarantee that 99% of growers would have installed co2 tanks, regulators and monitors if they were $100 dollars.

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you don't need to spend 1000$ to have a decent co2 setup. 200$ + 25$/3 months

suTraGrow- I have no idea what you are trying to say... I stated my conclusion/summaries. I also said, in many ways, that these are opinions I have drawn up through my own research

Do your own research holmes and you will find out that most of what I am saying is good info. I am not gonna post 100 links to all the sites/info i have read.

chasmtz said:

suTraGrow- I have no idea what you are trying to say... I stated my conclusion/summaries. I also said, in many ways, that these are opinions I have drawn up through my own research

Do your own research holmes and you will find out that most of what I am saying is good info. I am not gonna post 100 links to all the sites/info i have read.

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Holmes... lol enough said.

chasmtz said:

I chose to not use CO2 becasue i am using fresh air to cool my room. I think you need a completely sealed room which TO ME means air cooled hoods and ductless AC that doesnt need return air from the grow room. This also means, or so it seems, that you wouldnt need a carbon filter to scrub exhaust because there isnt any. This means your room has to be sealed better than most people can do

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Even running co2 in a "sealed" room you will have exhaust, thats why they sell controllers that turn off co2 and turn on the exhaust fan when a certain temperature is reached, therefore you'll still be needing a carbon scrubber.I'm sure most room that are running co2 aren't truely sealed, this would mean motorized dampers were in place , gaskets and the whole bit. I'm sure most people lose some co2 from a room, I personally pumped co2 right out of the room because I ran a portable that pulled room air over the coils to cool them and then exhausted the room thru a flex, I got odor also but it was only into the garage since thats where I exhausted to. My point is a room doesn't have to be totally sealed to benefit from co2.

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Even running co2 in a "sealed" room you will have exhaust, thats why they sell controllers that turn off co2 and turn on the exhaust fan when a certain temperature is reached, therefore you'll still be needing a carbon scrubber.I'm sure most room that are running co2 aren't truely sealed, this would mean motorized dampers were in place , gaskets and the whole bit. I'm sure most people lose some co2 from a room, I personally pumped co2 right out of the room because I ran a portable that pulled room air over the coils to cool them and then exhausted the room thru a flex, I got odor also but it was only into the garage since thats where I exhausted to. My point is a room doesn't have to be totally sealed to benefit from co2.

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This is pretty much correct no one really has a 100% sealed environment.

sixteenounces said:

you don't need to spend 1000$ to have a decent co2 setup. 200$ + 25$/3 months

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I didnt say you did. Most good co2 monitors made by Caps, Sentinal or Titan will run anywhere from 300 dollars and up unless you get the cheap one made by CAPS and those have a bad reputation. Any of the monitors that use fuzzy logic will be over 500 dollars retail and that doesnt include a tank and regulator. I prefer the fuzzy logic ones they are basically plug and play. They only turn on at lights on and they monitor your Co2 levels dispersing co2 anytime during lights on when co2 is under 1500 PPM

actually you can get them for 200 or less if you don't want a ppm one, and truthfully all it takes is a little math and a timer that does 15 minute intervals.

dbkick said:

actually you can get them for 200 or less if you don't want a ppm one, and truthfully all it takes is a little math and a timer that does 15 minute intervals.

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Yep thats correct. I know guys who dont use the monitors and just math and 15 minute intervals you just have to know your environment.

Or if you're really penny pinching, use the Soda Bottle + Yeast + Sugar + Water + AirLine tubing method. Is it going to get you the Co2 of a $200 system? Absolutely not, however it CAN produce a steady "drip" (imagine a drip of gas) of Co2 onto the plants for 2 weeks, then you just change out the Sugar/Water/Yeast and you're good to go for another 2 weeks. As I said, it won't get you ass loads of the golden gas, which is why if you give it a go, be sure each bottle system is AIR TIGHT and exits right at the base of ONE plant, or in between the base of TWO plants. At most, 2 plants per bottle setup. And be sure to have air circulation! I set up (3) 1 Liter bottles for my 6 plants, and when I walked into my grow room the next morning, I got instantly light headed because of the strong amounts of Co2!! (Funny smell also, however this large output of Co2 seems to only happen during the first few hours of the yeast breaking down the sugar) Anywho, I'm just basing most of this off of the knowledge I have from brewing my own beer, where Co2 production is VASTLY more important than it is for growing weed. Completely different worlds I know, but still the same gas.

Seriously though, if you're really broke, I have never found this set up to HURT my plants. I'll shut up now.