CO2 and roots with bubbleponics question

Hi people
Just a question if anyone can shed some light, I am using a basic bubble system with a 50l bin supporting 6 plants using a twin output air pump.
I am also putting CO2 into the room via yeast and sugar mix in milk bottles around the room. I am wondering if the CO2 could cause problems by being pumped into the res around the roots by the air pump? I have read that CO2 can suffocate roots etc. I have used the system before with no issues but this time round i have had issues with the dreaded snotty algae crap. I seem to have got rid of the algae but the plants are not growing much and are droopy and yellow even though the roots are white and growing fast. ppm is ok and ph is going up fast but im keeping it down best i can. Could the CO2 be stopping the roots from taking nutrients causing slow top growth? I have other plants in soil which are flourishing so external environment is fine.....

If youre using the DIY co2 setup, excess co2 is not your problem.

If you have anything above normal atmospheric levels you should try to move the air pump outside the grow area. Not because co2 causes problems, but because its taking the place of oxygen.

'Snotty algae crap' isnt a very descriptive term(is it slime, rot, or algae?) but you need to fix it. Sterilization or teas, and proper res maintenance. Basic stuff.

I have the pump behind the fans and away and above the co2 so it is basically out of the grow area. Haha yes you are right it isnt very technical or descriptive but its late here and i cant remember the name of the algae, it is commonly referred to as snot and there is a good sticky here on bene bacteria tea etc which i have read but unfortunately cant find the bacteria needed anywhere near me and dont know where i can order it from. I have sterilised and cleaned repeatedly as i do know the basics. The algae has gone and roots look healthy again this is why i am wondering if the co2 is causing problems.

Like I said, excess co2 will NOT be your problem if youre using the DIY method. Just barely raises co2 above atmospheric levels. Most co2 setups run 13-1500ppm. Since youre not there, you dont have to move the air pump anywhere, it was just a suggestion IF you get your co2 levels up. And if that happens, keep in mind that being 'basically out of the grow area' is not the same as actually being out of the grow area.

If youve read heisenbergs thread, you already know what to do and just aren't doing it. I'm not going to google the products for you, I assure you there are plenty of sources all around the world and growers on this website from all around the world have no problem getting them.

gaztron3030 said:

cyanobacteria is the "snotty algae crap" i was referring to

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How do you know its that?

Assuming it is, fix your light leaks.

The co2 may not be high levels but since i introduced it my growth has boomed very noticably. Yes ive read heisenbergs thread and i have looked all over my region and searched on google for hours and nobody will ship that kind of thing internationally. I have read of many people having trouble finding these products around the world so they obviously arent used in certain countries often.
I have checked my light leaks, like i said i know the basics, i am quite sure it it cyanobacteria as the symptoms are exactly what others are stating and the ph is shooting up within hours of lowering it. I was simply asking for advise you dont need to be arrogant about it mate.

I'm not being arrogant, I'm giving you advice you asked for. YOURE WELCOME

If its cyanobacteria, it NEEDS light to survive. So if youre 100% sure its that, again, fix any light leaks. Otherwise, move on to the next option.

according to the thread on bene bacteria cyanobacteria does not need light or oxygen. i do not have light leaks i am sure of this. saying things like "Basic stuff" and "you already know what to do and just aren't doing it. I'm not going to google the products for you, I assure you there are plenty of sources all around the world and growers on this website from all around the world have no problem getting them" is kinda arrogant. i appreciate the advise on co2 etc but theres no need to talk to people like you think you are so much more intelligent than them, i have researched before posting this and have not found an answer which works so hence why i am here.

Thats not arrogance. Thats stating fact. I never even mentioned how awesome I am(THATS arrogance). There ARE plenty of sources that ship to every country I know growers in, including NZ. If you cant find them I dont know what you want me say.

Res maintenance is basic stuff, but I wasnt saying it in a derogatory sense. If you take it that way, so be it. I meant to make sure your basic stuff is in order. If it was, you wouldnt be having these issues. Take that as arrogant if you want, insulting the person chasing their tail to help isnt going to do much for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanobacteria
First sentence

"but a cyanobacteria. It loves oxygen and doesn't need light to grow." from heisenbergs thread. i was wrong about oxygen but there you go. Lol wiki. It is arrogant mate because of the way you state it. Arent these sites for people to help each other in friendly helpful ways? I mean you dont really know anything about my situation and you are assuming i am doing things wrong that i am not. Shipping bacteria and biological agents isnt exactly the same as posting a letter. Believe me i have looked alot online and asked every garden/hydro store within 100km of me about mycors etc and i can only find half of what is needed. maybe i am looking for too specific products but the bacteria tea is all new to me. I have read on a few forums kiwi growers having the same problem finding these products. so if there are plenty of sources that you know of that ship to nz why dont you mention one instead of repeating they exist? if there are plenty you know of you shouldnt need to google for me huh?

I dont care what the thread says...

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/bacteria/cyanointro.html
better? 1st sentence again.

Help yourself from here bro, I tried and I get a cocky ass attitude from you. You dont know what the problem is AT ALL, let alone potential cures, but you sure have no issue acting like you know everything surrounding the subject. Sorry I wasnt super courteous and nice enough about it and got straight to the point, telling you what was likely to cause your problems and several options to fix it. Didnt realize that made someone arrogant. Good luck with your "excessive co2" from the yeast bottle you made

lol what a dickhead!

who said anything about excessive co2? i said im using co2 but its not excessive i was just worried the pump was pulling it into the res

mike91sr said:

I dont care what the thread says...

http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/bacteria/cyanointro.html
better? 1st sentence again.

Help yourself from here bro, I tried and I get a cocky ass attitude from you. You dont know what the problem is AT ALL, let alone potential cures, but you sure have no issue acting like you know everything surrounding the subject. Sorry I wasnt super courteous and nice enough about it and got straight to the point, telling you what was likely to cause your problems and several options to fix it. Didnt realize that made someone arrogant. Good luck with your "excessive co2" from the yeast bottle you made

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If i thought i knew everything surrounding the subject i wouldnt be on a forum asking for advise now would i?

Youre welcome Whenever you want to listen to the advice given to you, feel free to ask the right questions

gaztron3030 said:

who said anything about excessive co2? i said im using co2 but its not excessive i was just worried the pump was pulling it into the res

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gaztron3030 said:

I am wondering if the CO2 could cause problems by being pumped into the res around the roots by the air pump? I have read that CO2 can suffocate roots etc.

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You said something about excessive co2

gaztron3030 said:

If i thought i knew everything surrounding the subject i wouldnt be on a forum asking for advise now would i?

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If you knew that you didnt know everything youd stop insisting I'm wrong when Im not. I dont care if you accept what I say as fact, look it up yourself....from a CREDIBLE source, not riu

lol ok? did i? i think that says THE not EXCESSIVE

And a troll post for good measure. See what happens when you come asking for advice and call the first person to help arrogant?