Cann's Organic No-Till Garden

headtreep said:

I foliar 3x a week and drench with aloe, ful-power, kelp, silica, and coconut almost everyday.

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Thanks for the reply headtreep, do you mix all of these ingredients together into one liquid/tea mix when applying your soil drench, or do you apply them separately. Also, what do you source for your silica, horsetail or pro-tekt, and are you just using regular coconut water or do you break open young coconuts. Sorry for all the questions, i'm just trying to get a feel for what most of you guys are doing in your programs.

Have a dank day

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kushking42 said:

For fresh aloe: Cut, filet, scrape, puree...

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so how much inside leaf per how much water?

hyroot said:

so how much inside leaf per how much water?

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The rule of thumb I go by is 2tbsp per gallon...but no worries if you have more than that in there, doesn't seem to cause any ill effects.

snap1234 said:

Thanks for the reply headtreep, do you mix all of these ingredients together into one liquid/tea mix when applying your soil drench, or do you apply them separately. Also, what do you source for your silica, horsetail or pro-tekt, and are you just using regular coconut water or do you break open young coconuts. Sorry for all the questions, i'm just trying to get a feel for what most of you guys are doing in your programs.

Have a dank day

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I mix all of those in a big jug (5 gal). Have them stored in cool temp and use when needed. They will go quick so it's a pain to mix a batch every time. They don't last more than 24 hours so I don't worry about any degradation issues. Silica I use is a powder but I do use Pro-tekt (leftover). If you can use fresh coconut please do. I use a powder because it's pretty cheap and much easier for me. I have aloe plants that I use for cloning only until I grow more I'm stuck with the powder. You can go through a lot of aloe depending on your garden size. My program is very easy and that was the point when I jumped off the hydro train. No PH pens and all that bottle crap. Most shit you can source locally except for mycos and the humics but even those you can DYI if you wanted.

headtreep said:

I mix all of those in a big jug (5 gal). Have them stored in cool temp and use when needed. They will go quick so it's a pain to mix a batch every time. They don't last more than 24 hours so I don't worry about any degradation issues. Silica I use is a powder but I do use Pro-tekt (leftover). If you can use fresh coconut please do. I use a powder because it's pretty cheap and much easier for me. I have aloe plants that I use for cloning only until I grow more I'm stuck with the powder. You can go through a lot of aloe depending on your garden size. My program is very easy and that was the point when I jumped off the hydro train. No PH pens and all that bottle crap. Most shit you can source locally except for mycos and the humics but even those you can DYI if you wanted.

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Can cuttings be taken with just aloe? I got aloe plants. It would save me a trip to town.

headtreep said:

I mix all of those in a big jug (5 gal). Have them stored in cool temp and use when needed. They will go quick so it's a pain to mix a batch every time. They don't last more than 24 hours so I don't worry about any degradation issues. Silica I use is a powder but I do use Pro-tekt (leftover). If you can use fresh coconut please do. I use a powder because it's pretty cheap and much easier for me. I have aloe plants that I use for cloning only until I grow more I'm stuck with the powder. You can go through a lot of aloe depending on your garden size. My program is very easy and that was the point when I jumped off the hydro train. No PH pens and all that bottle crap. Most shit you can source locally except for mycos and the humics but even those you can DYI if you wanted.

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With fresh coconut. Is the dilution ratio the same?

spliff - yes, just dip cuts in the fresh filet for a minute or so, then transfer to your medium. can't hurt to soak the medium in the gel as well - or mix up a dilution w/ h2o to get a proper soak.

you can also mix 1/4 cup of aloe to 1 gal of h2o and let the medium and clones sit in that for a few hrs - then transfer the cuts into the medium. hope that makes sense...


hyroot - are you in so-cal? you should be able to find good aloe at a store locally, if not growing wild in your area lol. check out LOTD (lily of the desert) brand aloe - it is sold in most health food stores, they have a few different types. make sure you get the "preservative free" kind, which will have citric acid in it - this is okay. sodium benzoate is the one that you do not want. i prefer the 200x purealoe powder from ingredientstodiefor - much cheaper than the liquid version and doesn't take up space in my fridge


so fucking hot here today....might go take a nap in the flower room - its the coolest place in the house lol

CannI have aloe plants going. But all the aloe I can find has citric acid and sodium benzoate and they are labeled organic.. loll...... Its cheaper and less travel for me to utilize plants. Then I can get fresh coconut from the market down the street in walking distance. But they raised the price to a $1.88. When they were a $1 they sold out in 2 days.

Cann said:

spliff - yes, just dip cuts in the fresh filet for a minute or so, then transfer to your medium. can't hurt to soak the medium in the gel as well - or mix up a dilution w/ h2o to get a proper soak.

you can also mix 1/4 cup of aloe to 1 gal of h2o and let the medium and clones sit in that for a few hrs - then transfer the cuts into the medium. hope that makes sense...

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I'll try the first method. Keep a fresh aloe leaf next to me while i'm taking cuts. So do you want apply the aloe to cover the stem, like clonex? Free cloning gel.

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SpliffAndMyLady said:

So do you want apply the aloe to cover the stem, like clonex? Free cloning gel.

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Precisely

let us know how it works for ya!

BO x NL5/Haze...somewhere around 9 days flower

That's a big Bitch. Looks so healthy to the bottom.

hyroot said:

so how much inside leaf per how much water?

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I grow my own and use a leaf a gallon, no point in wasting.

okay, time for a proper update.

harvested a few weeks ago...took the plants a few at a time each day depending on which ones were done...most finished in between 8 and 9 weeks. i need to record shit better but i didn't write down the chop days so....

anyway, been trimming all those plants while also cleaning up the flower tent and preparing for the last cycle in this house before I move. i also converted my old 4x8 veg tent into a flower tent by moving the 600w HPS into there..so now 1/2 of the tent is lit with HPS and the other half is T5..two 4' 8 bulb fixtures...6500K light LOL but fuck it..not dropping the money on flower bulbs for one cycle, and more light is better than less..

no more need for a huge veg tent..i'm only gonna be keeping alive a few moms to bring with me the old mini flower tent (4x4) is now the veg tent w/ all clones..most of the clones have rooted at this point and are in plastic cups w/ ROLS and vermicompost.

I cut the clones a few weeks ago while cleaning up the lower branches of all the plants...everything is in flower now except the clones..so I made sure to take a few cuts of each just in case something went horribly wrong. as usual I had to cull a few clones of each...aloe works too well! i did have a few stems turn to mush this time..think that was because I got lazy and left the fresh cuts in h2o for about 36 hrs before putting into rapid rooters...too long sitting in water. either way it worked out...200x aloe powder works on its own..this is confirmed from a second round of cuts I did - straight off the plant, dipped into powder, then into the rapidrooter. make sure you don't dip the cut into water before the powder...the powder will immediately turn to goop on the stem and its not fun to work with.

most of the plants went into flower on the 14th or 15th..i've been hitting with neem/silica/aloe foliar every 3 days...really trying to prevent PM this cycle. last run I was using neem @ 1tbs/gal..ramped it up to 2tbs/gal this time. got a little bit of leaf curl on a few plants but they are noticeably more shiny, hoping this will translate to PM protection. at this point its past the 2 week point so I am done spraying..just some neem meal teas from now on...along w/ sprouted barley seed (or diastatic malt powder) enzyme tea, aloe, TM-7 (every two or three weeks), ful-power, and probably the occasional botanical tea w/ comfrey and/or kelp....the usual. oh, and coconut h2o/freeze dried coconut h2o powder...going to test that one out. just got a small package in the mail. the liquid coconut h2o is too damn expensive, and tastes too good to feed to my plants! might be getting a costco membership sometime soon - apparently they sell a 4x1liter pack for pretty cheap...according to the coot.

not many pics from the harvest, but here is one:

God's Gift (one of three plants in a 30 gal no-till..there are pics of her very early in the thread, page 1 or 2 i think)



This harvest was by far the best I have ever had...pulled some crazy numbers. had to re-calibrate my scale just to make sure it wasn't fucking up lol. 230 grams dried from one plant (The Flav) in a #10 smartpot...the Plushberry in a #10 smartpot ended up coming in somewhere around 200 grams...none of the plants were under 2 oz. the buds were deceptively dense, especially for 600s...

total weight was around 44oz dried..not bad by my books

stay tuned for pics of the flower rooms...

Here is a general shot of the room around day 7 of flower. all those stakes are in that one pot cause i'm just lazy LOL...need to do something about that. if its anything like last cycle these ladies are gonna need a lot of staking, so I should get the stakes in now..



A few days later and you can see the BOxNL5/haze ladies already starting to express different characteristics..here are two in a 45gal no-till. can't wait to see what these have in store for me.


two TOxBMR in a 30gal no-till...these ones are looking identical LOL. one of them got burnt more by a neem spray..not sure what that means. i'm leaning towards the one on the right as my favorite. also there is another one in a 5gal no-till (you can see part of it on the left of the frame) - that one is pretty nice too. we'll see

After the first week of flower I decided to apply a nice topdress utilizing some materials from my yard. The comfrey root I planted back in January is a pretty massive plant now...figure I might as well utilize the leaves while I can before I move out of this house . there will be a nice present waiting for the next tenants..if they are gardeners. 4 bocking plants in this yard now....haha. i'd be psyched...

Here is one of the many comfreys - zucchini behind it, eggplant to the back right, cherry tomato to the right..red winter wheat to the side. lens cap on the comfrey leaf for perspective..those babies are huge!


here is a picture of the front yard w/ clover, lemon balm, and horsetail. decided to leave the clover and lemon balm because I didn't have enough..so I harvested some horsetail.



horsetail and comfrey w/ a quarter for perspective.


heres what the pot looked like to start..."canna meal" a.k.a. removed lower branches + dried up fan leaves that fall off and I place in the pots. once the leaves dry I try to crumble them to help incorporate into the soil faster

horsetail first

then comfrey

then homemade EWC to top it off


the reason I filled the pot so much this cycle is because I am moving soon, so I know this will be my last run in these pots. Might as well fill em up! (leaving a bit of room for water and such of course).

a few days ago I sowed micro clover and mini nasturtium seeds in the pots...hopefully this time I can keep up w/ surface moisture enough to get a successful living mulch...last time I couldn't seem to keep the surface moist enough. there are still a few remaining clovers from last cycle..but not many survivors lol.

sorry for the overload of pics!

dont know if its been said earlier, or if you do already. but you could mist the tops of all your pots as part of your daily maintenance

i need to buy another pump sprayer so I can have one in the room at all times w/ just h2o......

and get off my lazy ass sometimes lol. its more of an issue of laziness than much else

remember these ladies?? (sorry the first pic is so blurry...old camera!)

this is what they look like now:

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thats a #10 smartpot btw...i decided to size up because they can use the space lol. the #5 full of roots 707 on its second round wasn't gonna cut it...no matter how much I topdressed EWC lol. needed to get them in some nicely amended ROLS

Great looking stuff Mr. C