Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome

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CHS?

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"Where is your scientific evidence to back this "theory" of yours up?"

h0psin:

It's often helpful to go a page or two back in a thread if you're looking for info and feel like you've missed something. Here are the links I posted earlier.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3538402/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2658859/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2664574/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1774264/

There's four medical journals from around the world for starters. Use the citations to read more. The last one was actually the first to coin the name Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome.
 
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Three weeks dry now and I'm completely symptom-less. No nausea, no puking, no food aversion. I'm constantly hungry now and am eating anything and everything like it's going out of style without feeling the least bit queasy.

Up until three weeks ago (while still smoking regularly), I would feel nauseated whenever I was even around food. If I could smell it, I felt sick. If I ate, I'd only be able to tolerate a small amount (even after smoking and feeling the munchies). But now I'm eating outrageously large portions and doing everything I can to put some weight back on. So far, so good.

I'll continue to keep y'all updated on my progress, but for now I'd say that CHS is a real issue. I don't know exactly why some people develop it and others don't, but I'm pretty damn sure I had it. What else could it be? The only thing I've changed is cutting out pot.

On a different note, I really want to get high. Lol.
 
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Bro gotta be 18. My stomach hurts when I drink cold water....... just thought I would throw that out there
 
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jimmyjamusa

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THIS IS NOT BULLSHIT!!!! I spent four agonizing months in and out of the hospital.... List a hundred pounds.... Almost died... Don't let them poo poo this!.... It is REAL!.... None of us smokers wanna hear it can harm you... I certainly did not...
Within six days of quitting, I stopped puking and screaming... I even took up smoking again, and WHAMMO!.... All over again... Unless you've suffered from this or have witnessed it, you will probably never believe it.

I presented with 100% of the symptoms.... Hot baths REALLY helped.... Quitting smoking helped the best.... I am sad to not smoke.

My theory: growth enhancements.... The guy at the grow shop will tell you it's a three day flush.... The bottle will tell you it's a week flush.... My family does at least a 21 day flush!!!
You can tell if the ash is harder and crispier than usual, POOR FLUSH.... More carbon left over... I think it's a sound theory... People want quantity over quality... Pure and simple. Shame....
 
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To the OP. Your story is quite literally identical to mine with the exception of your age. I am 42 and absolutely for certain have CHS. It was diagnosed as CVS but it is not that. The most telling differences are the relief provided by an extremely hot shower, and the lack of migraines. I know for sure it is CHS because I have had several episodes that have required hospitalization. I was once admitted for over a week with constant vomiting literally every 10 minutes. I lost 17 pounds and was 1 day away from a feeding tube when it resided. In every instance the hot shower was the only relief I found. I would literally take a hot shower every 15 minutes at times to curb the vomiting and nausea. I like you love to smoke and hope to figure out an alternative. After my last episode I stopped for over a year I put 40 pounds back on and thought I would give it a try again. I started smoking slowly and then over time was back at going through close to an ounce a week. Over time as the THC built up I started losing my appetite began feeling the nausea and started losing weight. I stopped again before it got real bad and I am now eating again putting on weight and feel fantastic. One of the things that I always loved about the MJ culture was the open mindedness. After reading some of the responses to your OP. I am truly disgusted. I like you in no way feel that this is a bad drug and I feel strongly in the benefits it provides many people. So much so that I am in the process of becoming a legal provider in the state I live in for people with a legitmate need. Like every medicine there are cases that it works great for may people but for a select few there maybe a side effect that is very detrimental. It blows my mind that people here can not accept that. I like you had every single test under the sun and for lack of a better phrase passed with flying colors. It is not stress, coffee or any other thing. Doctors finally decided to just chalk it up to CVS. I like you felt I need to understand my new found syndrome and came across CHS when the hot shower was added into the search equation. After reading that I thought, well considering how sick I get would it really kill me to stop smoking for a bit and just see what happens. What happened was quite literally almost instant relief. While I am sorry to hear that you have suffered the same as I. it is comforting to know I am not alone and I hope you and I can figure out away to enjoy something we both clearly loved for many years. If you figure it out let me know and I will do the same. The rest of the haters just consider yourself lucky instead of being so damn close minded that you sound exactly like all the hypocrite bullshit powers that be that have tried to paint MJ as a gateway drug or prevent sick people from using a medicine that works for them. Absolutely disgusting. No other way to describe it
 
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Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome? Do you realize there is a smear campaign going on as we speak? I think what is needed is some research on your part, taking advice from a system and people that have no idea of the drug is not good, look at oxy and the nightmare that's left from people listening to their doctors. I'm sorry you truly believe, but I can tell you for certain it has saved my life when our SYSTEM couldn't! It wasn't a MIRICLE! its was the cannabis and they refused to acknowledge the fact. Getting as much into your system should be your goal for good health. Sadly people you have been duped by the system, I know exactly how you feel and how you were thinking, pain isn't fun but don't settle for the crap they hash out because its not for your best interests...its for their pocket books.
 
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Sir.Ganga said:
Cannabinoid Hyperemesis Syndrome? Do you realize there is a smear campaign going on as we speak? I think what is needed is some research on your part, taking advice from a system and people that have no idea of the drug is not good, look at oxy and the nightmare that's left from people listening to their doctors. I'm sorry you truly believe, but I can tell you for certain it has saved my life when our SYSTEM couldn't! It wasn't a MIRICLE! its was the cannabis and they refused to acknowledge the fact. Getting as much into your system should be your goal for good health. Sadly people you have been duped by the system, I know exactly how you feel and how you were thinking, pain isn't fun but don't settle for the crap they hash out because its not for your best interests...its for their pocket books.
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Did you even read my post ? The medical community did not try tell me it was CHS. They beleive it is Cyclical Vomiting Syndrome, even after I told them how much I smoke. I am not part of any campaign. The facts are quite simple. If I smoke MJ regularly I will begin to lose weight, become nauseous, and start vomiting uncontrollably. When I stop it goes away. Those are the facts. I know because I have lived through it for years and have gone back and forth several times and it is no coincidence, for me smoking = sickness not smoking =feeling great. I have smoked as much pot as anybody and have not been duped by anybody. I am not against MJ in anyway. I think it is a very viable medicine for many. However in some case just like any drug some people have a different reaction. I am one of those people. I am very much in support of legalization both medicinally and recreational. Just because it doesn't work for me I in no way feel that anyone has the right to tell another what they can put in their body period. These absolutely ridiculous responses painting us as fools or some kind of antipot propagandists just helps the people that say pot makes you an idiot look like they might know what they are talking about. I am happy for you that you don't get sick from it, I wish that were the case with me but its not. I know this because I live it not because someone told me it's so. I just can't beleve how frustrating it is having a community that I respected for being accepting and open minded is actually turning out to act just like all the anit-pot brainwashed hypocrites.
 
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CHS? said:
Three weeks dry now and I'm completely symptom-less. No nausea, no puking, no food aversion. I'm constantly hungry now and am eating anything and everything like it's going out of style without feeling the least bit queasy.

Up until three weeks ago (while still smoking regularly), I would feel nauseated whenever I was even around food. If I could smell it, I felt sick. If I ate, I'd only be able to tolerate a small amount (even after smoking and feeling the munchies). But now I'm eating outrageously large portions and doing everything I can to put some weight back on. So far, so good.

I'll continue to keep y'all updated on my progress, but for now I'd say that CHS is a real issue. I don't know exactly why some people develop it and others don't, but I'm pretty damn sure I had it. What else could it be? The only thing I've changed is cutting out pot.

On a different note, I really want to get high. Lol.
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EXACTLY THE SAME FOR ME ! This last time around I have stopped now for 2 weeks. I am eating like a freaking horse. I bring 4 sub sandwiches a day to work now and I am still hungry. Before when I was smoking daily I was bringing 1 sandwich and I would nibble on it all day and maybe get half way through. I would get home, rip a tube get the munchies and finish the other half. I have begun to put weight back on. I realize now that this is a true blessing in disguise as I am going to become a legal grower and provider in my state and knowing that I can not use what I am growing will make that process much better for both my patients and my business. I do still hope to find away to make it work for me because while it clearly was making me sick it was very helpful in tolerating my degenerative disc disease that I have had for almost 20 years now. I just find it easier to deal with the back pain rather than the constant vomiting. I am really hoping to find out if vaping would make a difference because I have done the edible thing and it just does nothing for me. I d not feel high nor does it offer much in the way of relief of the back pain
 
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The reason I have so few posts are because for years I was content growing and smoking and living my life. I actually had much better things to do when I was high than get on a computer chat with mindless fucks on a forum. However when I got sick I started looking for information as to why, because the doctors sure as shit didn't have clue. I came across others with the same symptoms/results. I guess we were wrong to think anyone here might be intelligent and open minded to have discussion about it I have $1000's of dollars owed to the hospital for every god damn test under the sun only to have them tell me. They really don't know so we'll call it Cyclical vomiting syndrome. They never suggested that I stop smoking. I did that on my own just to see what happened and low and behold that was the cure. For fuck sake I would think you all would be happy it's more pot for you, but no, your so damn afraid that someone might say pot is bad. Yet we are not saying that, especially not me. I think it is great for most people but not me. What angers me most is how stupid you make all the rest of pot smokers sound. It's such a shame you are doing such a great job backing up all the stereotypes the public has of people who smoke pot. Way to go !
 
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You must be so proud of your 1400 posts. What an accomplishment with your life. I see you have the attach a photo technique mastered. . It must take a lot of practice to become as ignorant as yourself. Certainly you weren't just born that way. I bet you have a bunch of facebook friends too don't you. I am sure you already know this and have been told it a million times but Jesus Christ your dick !
 
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In the late 60's science figured they had it all discovered.... Thought they knew all life forms on the planet.... Then one day a pilot flying over the Columbia Gorge spotted some native Indians NO ONE knew about! Imagine that!.... An undiscovered tribe right here in the northwest!!!

My point is, just because YOU don't see it, doesn't mean it ain't there.... This is the cruelty in me speaking here, but Chuck, I PRAY you succumb to this "phantom" illness!... Your level of ignorance is only eclipsed by your callousness.... You give stoners a bad name...
 
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jimmyjamusa said:
In the late 60's science figured they had it all discovered.... Thought they knew all life forms on the planet.... Then one day a pilot flying over the Columbia Gorge spotted some native Indians NO ONE knew about! Imagine that!.... An undiscovered tribe right here in the northwest!!!

My point is, just because YOU don't see it, doesn't mean it ain't there.... This is the cruelty in me speaking here, but Chuck, I PRAY you succumb to this "phantom" illness!... Your level of ignorance is only eclipsed by your callousness.... You give stoners a bad name...
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jimmyjamusa said:
In the late 60's science figured they had it all discovered.... Thought they knew all life forms on the planet.... Then one day a pilot flying over the Columbia Gorge spotted some native Indians NO ONE knew about! Imagine that!.... An undiscovered tribe right here in the northwest!!!

My point is, just because YOU don't see it, doesn't mean it ain't there.... This is the cruelty in me speaking here, but Chuck, I PRAY you succumb to this "phantom" illness!... Your level of ignorance is only eclipsed by your callousness.... You give stoners a bad name...
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You hit the nail on the head with that one. I love the other responses where people are saying I have been smoking my whole life and never got sick so this is bullshit. My parents have been smoking cigarettes their whole life and don't have cancer. So obviously cigarettes don't cause cancer then right. I have drank alcohol for years and have not had liver failure so clearly that is a farce too. I know tons of people that eat peanuts and they are fine so clearly peanut allergies are just some right wing conspiracy. I personally can roll around naked in a sea of poison ivy and nothing will happen to me so I know all those people complaining of terrible rashes and itchiness are just idiots that have vivid imaginations. It's awesome how the same people that have been crying for years about how people are so close minded about pot are so damn close minded. I have done nothing but actually defend the use of pot for almost everyone but myself through this whole thread but yet somehow I am spreading bad propaganda. The responses actually remind me of the catholic church response to child molestation problem. If we say it doesn't exist then it doesn't. Just a bunch if ignorant fools that are feeding the flames for people that think stoners are stupid, ignorant idiots. I know many that aren't but they sure seem hard to find on this forum
 
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Well the difference is hepatoxicity allergies and cancer...everyhting you mentioned has a real backing we know the processes involved, they effect everyone..let me repeat everyone. Alcohol like tylenol destroys your liver on contact.it does this to everyone. Thats like saying cocaine made you go to sleep because your "brain chem" is different.. no it activates the exact same receptors in everyone..if you've suddenly developed problems get a doc to prescribe Rimonabant and see what happens..that will keep cb receptors from being activated at which point you will still have issues. I'm a man of science and I've found nothing reputable about this...all other side effects from weed, have a legitimate pathway that we can watch control and study...anyway you'll probly just reply like up there.. with nothing but insults. Provide some articles for me to read to convince me this exists so I can provide rebuttal. Probably with better articles. But seriously of it was effecting you so much why are you complaining on here and not fixing it. If its truly caused by weed a cb antagonist should improve the condition
 
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So, the Mayo Clinic are not folks of science?.... Just a bunch of hacks?... Did you read any of the links posted early in this thread?.... Not sure what science you subscribe to, but I only question your thoroughness.... I took my diagnosis in to the ER.... From the mayo clinic website... The doctors, only THEN, confirmed what I had already begun to reluctantly believe. So much for men of science... Believing a bunch of idiots at the Mayo Clinic ( sarcasm font engaged).

@ chuck.... Lame.... You need to get more cerebral in you insults and taunts... The pics seem so twelve year old female.... What Jr High do you attend?... I don't think the other girls will make fun of you if you use your big boy words....
 
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qwizoking said:
Well the difference is hepatoxicity allergies and cancer...everything you mentioned has a real backing we know the processes involved, they effect everyone..let me repeat everyone. Alcohol like tylenol destroys your liver on contact.it does this to everyone. Thats like saying cocaine made you go to sleep because your "brain chem" is different.. no it activates the exact same receptors in everyone..if you've suddenly developed problems get a doc to prescribe Rimonabant and see what happens..that will keep cb receptors from being activated at which point you will still have issues. I'm a man of science and I've found nothing reputable about this...all other side effects from weed, have a legitimate pathway that we can watch control and study...anyway you'll probly just reply like up there.. with nothing but insults. Provide some articles for me to read to convince me this exists so I can provide rebuttal. Probably with better articles. But seriously of it was effecting you so much why are you complaining on here and not fixing it. If its truly caused by weed a cb antagonist should improve the condition
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First I will not be insulting because you were not insulting in your reply. I am not complaining. I have fixed it. The fix is super simple I just don't smoke. The OP started this thread by asking if anyone is experiencing the same thing. I was so I responded. Both he and I were attacked and insulted when in reality we both support the use of MJ for just about everyone but for us it is not working. As far as articles on MJ you can always find articles supporting either side of the agenda. As MJ becomes more acceptable and more a part of mainstream life there will be more studies and more information as to why this happens. I don't claim to know why it happens. What i do know is that if I smoke regularly, meaning daily I will lose weight and begin a pattern of uncontrollably vomiting. If I do not smoke at all or just on occasion I am fine. This much I do know for a fact because I have gone through the cycle several times now. Do you believe that science does know for certain how every single person will react to every single substance at every single stage of life. I personally do not. I am a man of science as well. At one point science thought the earth was flat but they later learned it was not. My irritation is with the fact that people that have never experienced it could dismiss it as Bullshit. This thread was in no way started to get people to not smoke in fact in many ways it was the opposite. Both the OP and myself love to smoke and hope to figure out a way to make it work for us like it is for the rest. Your response was at least thought out and you can articulate your point and for that I would never be insulting but when someone can't even type but has to post pictures because if they did type their ignorance and stupidity would be glaring then yes I will be insulting.
 
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