Bring back the draft

Rob Roy said:

I advocate that human relations be on a peaceful and voluntary basis. You advocate for something else and rely on a contradiction as an argument.

You think people that use force to encompass you (government) are needed to protect you from people that use force. Which is a circular argument. Are you dizzy yet? You should be.

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But only because im high, not because im brainless, like those who wish to remain nameless.

Fogdog said:

Switzerland is a nice place, I agree with you. It has a government though, so it's nothing like what @Rob Roy advocates.

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A government that issues out guns to land owners near the boarders sounds like a government of the people, for the people. Then there is the fact they dont use the Euro....wonder currency independence is working for them....When I was there a Big Mac meal converted to $16USD.....wonder how much the workers make

Rob Roy said:

...<snip the blather>... Are you dizzy yet? You should be.

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Believe me, no one is as dizzy as you come across, Man!

But thanks for posting continuously!

rollitup said:

Believe me, no one is as dizzy as you come across, Man!

But thanks for posting continuously!

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Could one argue he responds continuously? Im new here so maybe thats why im unsure if a site administrator is sarcastic about an active board. Seems like other boards struggle with inactive members. Grass is always green on the other side i suppose.

Rob Roy said:

I advocate that human relations be on a peaceful and voluntary basis. You advocate for something else and rely on a contradiction as an argument.

You think people that use force to encompass you (government) are needed to protect you from people that use force. Which is a circular argument. Are you dizzy yet? You should be.

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Take a deep breath and relax. You know nothing about what I advocate. I oppose your stupid ideas but that's different. You want to enable child molesters to be free to do whatever sick things they do. You advocate for the destruction of a legal system which would render people helpless when land is land polluted and poisoned by their neighbors . I oppose your stupid ideas. But hey, shout them from the corner of any street you like. It's a free country.

ASCIIGHOST said:

Please copy and paste where i said peacetime draft. I would like it to start tomorrow actually. Drafts throughout history have been used during wartime to gather extra forces.

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Your first post in this thread is about bringing back the draft. So, explain please why would starting the draft at a time when we are not at war would be a good thing? I think its the idea of an idiot. The last thing we need is a peacetime draft.

ASCIIGHOST said:

That would be the voluntary system put in place by Richard Nixon now. But if first just means on Wednesday we get the alpha males/females then on Thursday we get beta males/females that would be acceptable to me.

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good. u at the front of either line is acceptable to me

Elwood Diggler said:

good. u at the front of either line is acceptable to me

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im here to report that the wars are fought to a stalemate, and the notion of front based warfare is obsolete. anything else i can help you with, sir?

ASCIIGHOST said:

im here to report that the wars are fought to a stalemate, and the notion of front based warfare is obsolete. anything else i can help you with, sir?

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thanks for the common knowledge but you dodged the question. you want a draft system. are you willing to be drafted or is that just for everyone else?

rollitup said:

Believe me, no one is as dizzy as you come across, Man!

But thanks for posting continuously!

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You're welcome. I think.

Elwood Diggler said:

thanks for the common knowledge but you dodged the question. you want a draft system. are you willing to be drafted or is that just for everyone else?

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JUL 05 - MAY 11 OEF7 - the first 6 didnt work we used to say. to answer you directly, yes im comfortable being drafted, if the draft occurs without any discrimination what so ever. male or female age 18-34. start it tomorrow. im all in. its my wish, why wouldnt i be all in....i know what im in for.....nothing.......you probably have fear....not me.....whats that LIKE?

Fogdog said:

Take a deep breath and relax. You know nothing about what I advocate. I oppose your stupid ideas but that's different. You want to enable child molesters to be free to do whatever sick things they do. You advocate for the destruction of a legal system which would render people helpless when land is land polluted and poisoned by their neighbors . I oppose your stupid ideas. But hey, shout them from the corner of any street you like. It's a free country.

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No I do not want what you erroneously espoused.

I think individual people and groups that are made up of people which interact with other people on a nonconsensual basis are in the wrong. That's the foundation of why I don't like coercion based governments. I don't make exceptions for them, you do. So, I DO know what you advocate, at the root of your "philosophy" anyhow.

If a person IS capable of consenting and they do....can you explain how they have been molested? Since you won't answer the question, I will for you. No, you cannot explain how a person who is capable of consenting and has consented is then being molested.

I think this is the part where I tell you the worst polluters are government and their affiliates.

No, there is no such thing as a free country, some grant their serfs more privileges that's all.

I oppose running others lives for them. You do not.

Rob Roy said:

No I do not want what you erroneously espoused.

I think individual people and groups that are made up of people which interact with other people on a nonconsensual basis are in the wrong. That's the foundation of why I don't like coercion based governments. I don't make exceptions for them, you do. So, I DO know what you advocate, at the root of your "philosophy" anyhow.

If a person IS capable of consenting and they do....can you explain how they have been molested? Since you won't answer the question, I will for you. No, you cannot explain how a person who is capable of consenting and has consented is then being molested.

I think this is the part where I tell you the worst polluters are government and their affiliates.

No, there is no such thing as a free country, some grant their serfs more privileges that's all.

I oppose running others lives for them. You do not.

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Outlaw the release of hormones in pubescent brains, and nobody will have to live with regrets (to what they consented to) again.

ASCIIGHOST said:

Outlaw the release of hormones in pubescent brains, and nobody will have to live with regrets (to what they consented to) again.

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Peter Pan...is that you?

Rob Roy said:

No I do not want what you erroneously espoused.

I think individual people and groups that are made up of people which interact with other people on a nonconsensual basis are in the wrong. That's the foundation of why I don't like coercion based governments. I don't make exceptions for them, you do. So, I DO know what you advocate, at the root of your "philosophy" anyhow.

If a person IS capable of consenting and they do....can you explain how they have been molested? Since you won't answer the question, I will for you. No, you cannot explain how a person who is capable of consenting and has consented is then being molested.

I think this is the part where I tell you the worst polluters are government and their affiliates.

No, there is no such thing as a free country, some grant their serfs more privileges that's all.

I oppose running others lives for them. You do not.

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"No I do not want what you erroneously espoused."
Yes you do, Rob. So, tell me, in your ideal system, what means would you have to collect reparations if your neighbor polluted your water source and poisoned your family then denied doing it?

Rob Roy said:

Peter Pan...is that you?

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No. That's real human culture created by an individual, and. I am only capable of identifying with corporate culture because my brain has been conditioned into being a slave, which I welcome. Not thinking makes life easier, therefor I "self identify" with Geoffrey the Giraffe. I DONT WANNA GROW UP! CAUSE IF I DID! I WOULDNT BE A TOYSRUS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID!

Fogdog said:

Yes you do, Rob. So, tell me, in your ideal system, what means would you have to collect reparations if your neighbor polluted your water source and poisoned your family then denied doing it?

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in this hypothetical was it polluted intentional, or accidentally, and with what?

Fogdog said:

Yes you do, Rob. So, tell me, in your ideal system, what means would you have to collect reparations if your neighbor polluted your water source and poisoned your family then denied doing it?

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What means do you have NOW, if the polluter IS government and your claim is denied? I bet you won't answer that one.



Your question? Thanks for asking.

Chapters 7 and 8 Market for Liberty by Morris and Linda Tannehille

Also, Dr. Mary Ruwart has written a good book that answers your question. The title is Healing our World in an Age of Aggression

ASCIIGHOST said:

No. That's real human culture created by an individual, and. I am only capable of identifying with corporate culture because my brain has been conditioned into being a slave, which I welcome. Not thinking makes life easier, therefor I "self identify" with Geoffrey the Giraffe. I DONT WANNA GROW UP! CAUSE IF I DID! I WOULDNT BE A TOYSRUS KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID!

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That's okay. Sometimes I think I'm a Sasquatch. We all have our hangups man.

Fogdog said:

"No I do not want what you erroneously espoused."
Yes you do, Rob. So, tell me, in your ideal system, what means would you have to collect reparations if your neighbor polluted your water source and poisoned your family then denied doing it?

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Oh... your first line in the quoted post, is weak...very weak. Why not just say " nuh uh" and present that as your refutation...oh wait...that is what you did. Weak, so weak.



@Fogdog this is for you...http://www.ruwart.com/ She answers your questions if you are curious.