Bridgelux Vero 29 LED Test

multipass

multipass

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awesome grow man! those lights are very impressive--plants look like they are growing fast and healthy
great spectrum too

Had some questions about your light arrays.
Im not the best with electricity/wiring.. just made my first semi-custom leds but looking to do some more =D

Are these each 100watt led arrays?
Do they need a special power supply like in your videos? Or would they work with a driver like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/100W-Watt-High-Power-LED-Driver-AC85V-265V-50-60HZ-Waterproof-/380520935701?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5898d0b115
INPUT​
AC:175-264V 50/60Hz
AC:2.5A
OUTPUT
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DC:28-33V
DC:3.0A±3%
100W Max

going to be some big bids late flower :joint:
 
Positivity

Positivity

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That's some amazing shit those two leds are doing. Too bad doesn't come in the sweet decor spectrum. Be crazy to buy a expensive led for veg when you can just hook a couple of those up. Maybe even flower, we'll see. Thanks for the killer show
 
PICOGRAV

PICOGRAV

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multipass said:
awesome grow man! those lights are very impressive--plants look like they are growing fast and healthy
great spectrum too

Had some questions about your light arrays.
Im not the best with electricity/wiring.. just made my first semi-custom leds but looking to do some more =D

Are these each 100watt led arrays?
Do they need a special power supply like in your videos? Or would they work with a driver like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/100W-Watt-High-Power-LED-Driver-AC85V-265V-50-60HZ-Waterproof-/380520935701?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5898d0b115
INPUT​
AC:175-264V 50/60Hz
AC:2.5A
OUTPUT
​
DC:28-33V
DC:3.0A±3%
100W Max

going to be some big bids late flower :joint:
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Hey Multi, thanks, I am impressed also, but this is my first grow, I didn't really know what to expect!

They arrays are 80-130 watt each, depending on how you drive them you could rate them at about 100w~, can I ask you how many you want to use in total and do you want room to expand?

The operating voltage of Bridgelux Vero 29 is;

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http://www.bridgelux.com/assets/products_portfolio/DS33 Bridgelux Vero 29 Datasheet 2013.07.18.pdf

29.4 - 45.1 volts, the driver you have there can only handle 33V, if you want to run the Vreo at 3 amps with a standard LED driver, you will need the voltage rating to be with in 33-45, and running them with a 3 amp driver you would consider them 120watt~ driven arrays each.
 
PICOGRAV

PICOGRAV

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Just woke them up, man this resin is sticky and there are so many crystals! I was looking at "Hash Tips" the other day, I wonder if the white tipped ghost buds actually have more THC or if its just a bleaching effect?

Anyway, everything still going to plan, buds are getting bigger, 11.5 hours sleeps and 12.5 hour days, they seem to be liking it, boosted the power a little bit as well, pulling just over 245 watts from the LED arrays now. Some pictures of course :)

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I am thinking about doing some trimming but I wouldn't know what leaves to cut? most peoples grows have way less fan leaves, is this just because they pushed through veg really quickly?

Don't for get about this little lady! Big plans for her ;)

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bbspills

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Hey Pico, since you are shortening the dark cycle, look into adding some far red to turn on during the start of your dark cycle.


  • Exposure to intense far-red light at the beginning of the night sets the clock ahead about 2 hours or so by eliminating the need for the spontaneous conversion of P[SUB]FR[/SUB] to P[SUB]R[/SUB] (E).

You can buy far red leds (730nm) which can be pricey, or you can use GE Reveals Incandescent Halogens which are much cheaper.

I use trigger lights on a seperate timer and they come on 15 minutes prior to lights off and stay on 15 minutes after lights out.

This really helps in flowering.

Here is a commercial bulb for the process, but like I said you can add cheap halogen incandescent and accomplish the same thing. I have a 40W bulb in my system

http://www.lumigrow.com/lumibulb-fr-far-red-led-grow-bulb/
 
PICOGRAV

PICOGRAV

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bbspills said:
Hey Pico, since you are shortening the dark cycle, look into adding some far red to turn on during the start of your dark cycle.


  • Exposure to intense far-red light at the beginning of the night sets the clock ahead about 2 hours or so by eliminating the need for the spontaneous conversion of P[SUB]FR[/SUB] to P[SUB]R[/SUB] (E).

You can buy far red leds (730nm) which can be pricey, or you can use GE Reveals Incandescent Halogens which are much cheaper.

I use trigger lights on a seperate timer and they come on 15 minutes prior to lights off and stay on 15 minutes after lights out.

This really helps in flowering.

Here is a commercial bulb for the process, but like I said you can add cheap halogen incandescent and accomplish the same thing. I have a 40W bulb in my system

http://www.lumigrow.com/lumibulb-fr-far-red-led-grow-bulb/
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Just based a little upon what I have read today, adding the far red would maybe not be all that great? A few study's suggest that increasing the ratio of far red will mimic the plant being shaded. If you have plants hardened off to full sunlight, when these light changes take place they might display stem elongation and grow smaller leaves due to greater proportion of Pr to Pfr;

http://www.mobot.org/jwcross/duckweed/phytochrome.htm

I think I have this right, that when you have more far red light, you get more Pr which leads to the plant thinking it is shaded? I dont know but maybe this is what you want for flowering?
 
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lax123

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Maybe it helps if i quote that source again, or i got it wrong ;-)
Phytochrome responses:
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Important plant responses regulated by the phytochrome system include photoperiodic induction of flowering [...] Sunlight has a R:FR ratio of 1.2 [...] Light under a canopy of leaves has a R:FR ratio of 0.13 (shaded style...)
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r u planning something like 13W red and 100W far red?
 
Cococola36

Cococola36

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PICOGRAV said:
Just based a little upon what I have read today, adding the far red would maybe not be all that great? A few study's suggest that increasing the ratio of far red will mimic the plant being shaded. If you have plants hardened off to full sunlight, when these light changes take place they might display stem elongation and grow smaller leaves due to greater proportion of Pr to Pfr;

http://www.mobot.org/jwcross/duckweed/phytochrome.htm

I think I have this right, that when you have more far red light, you get more Pr which leads to the plant thinking it is shaded? I dont know but maybe this is what you want for flowering?
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I'd like to throw my hat in the ring here and say I use far red lumi grow with an increased day cycle and my plants seem to love it. I start flower 12/12 then up it by a half hour every week or two maxing out at 14 on 10 off only at week 6 flower, than i cut back gradually to 11/13 by last week of flush. Remember you only, or at least i only, use the far red for 15 min once lights out and thats it. I use no far red during the day light scheme at all so theres no increase in far red during the day cycle. Used right there will be no issue of the plant shaded effect. I always just did 12/12 . 12.5/11.5, or 11/13 depending on strain with no far red for years and I've added in yield and resin production over the last few runs with the addition of far red (at lights out)
 
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bbspills

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Yeah, I only use the far red at lights out as well and ever since I've added it, my yields have increased and flowering time decreased.
 
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lax123

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nice, lol i think i have got to get some. Which amount of wattage far red do both of u use vs total wattage?
 
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bbspills

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From an old wise grower that I initially got my info from, he uses a ratio of 25% to total power.

So if you have a 400W system, then get a 100W GE Reveal Incandescent Halogen.

I use a 40W for my cabinet
 
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lax123

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that mouser links isnt working for me :-( maybe Country dependant. Would any normal halogen lamp spot work? or which nm would you get in particular? im not from the US... :-/ edit. ok i think every halogen should work and now i know indec...is a Color type style.
 
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bbspills

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The mouser link is for actual 730nm LEDs.

I was recommended GE Reveal Halogen Incandescents and use them. You should be able to find them relatively easily on the web.

The pic below is what you would look for

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lax123

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shipment costs (20$) is tripple the Price of the reveal halogen. could i just use any other halogen light? because in my Country like 70W 2700k halogen bulp is like 3,50$
 
PICOGRAV

PICOGRAV

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Cococola36 said:
I'd like to throw my hat in the ring here and say I use far red lumi grow with an increased day cycle and my plants seem to love it. I start flower 12/12 then up it by a half hour every week or two maxing out at 14 on 10 off only at week 6 flower, than i cut back gradually to 11/13 by last week of flush. Remember you only, or at least i only, use the far red for 15 min once lights out and thats it. I use no far red during the day light scheme at all so theres no increase in far red during the day cycle. Used right there will be no issue of the plant shaded effect. I always just did 12/12 . 12.5/11.5, or 11/13 depending on strain with no far red for years and I've added in yield and resin production over the last few runs with the addition of far red (at lights out)
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Flowering Master.
 
PICOGRAV

PICOGRAV

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bbspills said:
I would think most incandescent halogens would suffice, but I can only comment on what works for me.

I would at least get a clear one to make sure stuff isn't getting filtered.

You can also google 730nm, 735nm, and 740nm LEDs

Here's a another product

http://growlightsource.com/products/indoor-outdoor-led-grow-lights/the-flower-initiator-10-watt-ip65-indoor-outdoor-grow-light/
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Thanks for bringing this up, I think I was a little confused as to the benefit of the far reds. I think you mentioned before, but how long do you run them and when?
 
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