Blue Mountain Organics

cannakis said:

haha ilike this...but also you are not Technically making the lights. you are Assembling the parts, at least the electrical components. you dont blow the glass for the lamps do you? or mine the copper or even just refine the copper and make thin tiny strands...? you dont drill the oil to make the plastics that cover the wire do you?

Everybody Still, most everybody, Still buys products from others who actually produced them. same thing with bmo.

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bro, im mining copper as we speak, my rabbits burrow for oil, homeboy blows the glass after, i just signed a deal with Vero worth 7 figures.

Wait, you're right.

But don't forget the industries created just to mimic the sun location is the Overlord and ideally the Dons would be growing year round outdoors in 300 gal no tills and giant embedded beds..

Trading medicinal goods and or services we have in exchange for amendments, building materials, vehicles, toys and animals and seeds we need..

The rest would be fun to do ourselves, except clear the septic tanks, lol

if its organic i dont see what the issue is..they call people that use bottles bottle babys..well the ones that dont grow their own things like alfalfa and ewc are called bag babys since the stuff they get comes in a bag..plain and simple

Kygiacomo said:

if its organic i dont see what the issue is..they call people that use bottles bottle babys..well the ones that dont grow their own things like alfalfa and ewc are called bag babys since the stuff they get comes in a bag..plain and simple

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Lol, then what about the tub and pail guys and all the jar heads, that's not fair mate..
Jk
I see it more of an organic war, you know, a health and rights movement for the people overall who should all be allowed to have herbs in their dwelling forget a little sub battle between the organic side we all good marijuana activists, growers, role models, and ultimate endorsers .. I Don't get caught up in the segregation and labelling vibes that babylon likes us to dwell in, we all have a right to our style when ya gossip you release cortisol and you age yourself one time..
Together we have better army, the best of both styles..
The bottle guys know their stages, science and chem
The bag guys know their plant, fungi, natural pest control and micro bio
With a massive govenrment-sanctioned commercial platform we could change the world with one crop, haha
The Peoples' Haze
By The Organics' Army

DonTesla said:

Lol, then what about the tub and pail guys and all the jar heads, that's not fair mate..
Jk
I see it more of an organic war, you know, a health and rights movement for the people overall who should all be allowed to have herbs in their dwelling forget a little sub battle between the organic side we all good marijuana activists, growers, role models, and ultimate endorsers .. I Don't get caught up in the segregation and labelling vibes that babylon likes us to dwell in, we all have a right to our style when ya gossip you release cortisol and you age yourself one time..
Together we have better army, the best of both styles..
The bottle guys know their stages, science and chem
The bag guys know their plant, fungi, natural pest control and micro bio
With a massive govenrment-sanctioned commercial platform we could change the world with one crop, haha
The Peoples' Haze
By The Organics' Army

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LMAO!!!ya me either man i just find it comical on these boards..i have noticed on all the fourms that in orgnanic sections they always are argueing about this and that.. or my way is better then ur way etcetc..i use chemicals and organic stuff and apply it to meet my needs the best bc i have found perks in both ways of growing..100% agree with u and last nite when i read u was mineing copper i got a good laugh out that

[QUOTE="DonTesla, post: 11325138, member: 851820I Don't get caught up in the segregation and labelling vibes that babylon likes us to dwell in, we all have a right to our style when ya gossip you release cortisol and you age yourself one time..
Together we have better army, the best of both styles..
The bottle guys know their stages, science and chem
The bag guys know their plant, fungi, natural pest control and micro bio
With a massive govenrment-sanctioned commercial platform we could change the world with one crop, haha
The Peoples' Haze
By The Organics' Army[/QUOTE]
I like this post.
especially that part.
There are some damn good growers out there that use JUST chemicals..
I just ain't one of em.
Doesn't mean they don't deserve respect though.

greasemonkeymann said:

[QUOTE="DonTesla, post: 11325138, member: 851820I Don't get caught up in the segregation and labelling vibes that babylon likes us to dwell in, we all have a right to our style when ya gossip you release cortisol and you age yourself one time..
Together we have better army, the best of both styles..
The bottle guys know their stages, science and chem
The bag guys know their plant, fungi, natural pest control and micro bio
With a massive govenrment-sanctioned commercial platform we could change the world with one crop, haha
The Peoples' Haze
By The Organics' Army

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I like this post.
especially that part.
There are some damn good growers out there that use JUST chemicals..
I just ain't one of em.
Doesn't mean they don't deserve respect though.[/QUOTE]
they are some good of both out there..i have also seen a half and half grows that were awesome which is why i switched from 100% chemical to 50.50..i use dyna gro till 3rd week of flower then switch to organic nutes..the fungicides i use are all organic as well and work good..im open minded and i will use whatever works the best no matter if its a 50.50 or 100% of either one..

i havent bought BMO yet still doing research on it but if i do will i need anything extra like earth worm castings,kelp,alfalfa meals to put into the holes i have dug already? im gonna be doing multi strain grows this year but i wanted to do 3 totally organic as im still learning about the liveing soil thing

Kygiacomo said:

i havent bought BMO yet still doing research on it but if i do will i need anything extra like earth worm castings,kelp,alfalfa meals to put into the holes i have dug already? im gonna be doing multi strain grows this year but i wanted to do 3 totally organic as im still learning about the liveing soil thing

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Way to transition smoothly, mon

The 3 staple meals, imo, that an organic grower needs is the neem, kelp, and alfalfa ..

Bone, blood, and feather meal (for longer flowering or wilder sativas) all very optional. I'm moving away from the b & b meals personally.

The only other biggie is the worms, whether in a bin, box, tub or mini-farm, when you make your own they are on another level. Life wise, they are literally slithering with life, with microbe counts outta this world.

We (The Dons) can help you build a living mix, but we don't rely on spikes and layers anymore. We use a couple other tricks now instead.

DonTesla said:

Way to transition smoothly, mon

The 3 staple meals, imo, that an organic grower needs is the neem, kelp, and alfalfa ..

Bone, blood, and feather meal (for longer flowering or wilder sativas) all very optional. I'm moving away from the b & b meals personally.

The only other biggie is the worms, whether in a bin, box, tub or mini-farm, when you make your own they are on another level. Life wise, they are literally slithering with life, with microbe counts outta this world.

We (The Dons) can help you build a living mix, but we don't rely on spikes and layers anymore. We use a couple other tricks now instead.

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i got neem meal & oil,karnaja meal and oil already..gotta go tomorrow actually and get 60 lbs of worm castings and 4 bags of happy frog..i got insect frass for chitin,protekt, ful-power,ful-humix and cytoplus and 1 oz of aloe for my neem oil mix plus its got SA in it and that a SAR inducer..to top it off got neptune harvest liq sea weed..im trying to make the bag soil i buy up good and make it last me a few years..that is if none my plots get found this year..thats always a worry when u can only grow guerilla..here is a thread i ran across when doing some research for makeing the plants strong..those 3 meals u state is what ever grower that i have spoke to has said.

http://www.onfrass.com/docs/One sheet_Applications and Benefits.pdf
Methods of inducing Local Acquired Resistance and Induced Systemic Resistance
Induced Resistance

(1) There is a diverse array of signals that stimulate IR.

(2) IR is a sensitization process that primes the plant for
more rapid deployment of defenses.

(3) When integrated into good agricultural practices, IR
can both enhance plant productivity and resistance to
disease.

(4) Has energetic costs


Types of induced resistance

1. Local acquired resistance (LAR)
2. Systemic acquired resistance (SAR)
3. Systemic gene silencing (SGS)
4. Induced systemic resistance (ISR)
5. Systemic wounding response (SWR)

Systemic Acquired Resistance

Controlled by salicylic acid (SA)
Broad resistance
More durable
Relies on the plants endogenous defenses
Classically effective against biotrophic pathogens

Chitosan

Chitosan is a plant defense booster derived through the breaking down of chitin found in shellfish and mullosks.
In general Chitosan can help improve the efficiency of a nutrient or fertilizer.
Chitosan will increase the quantity, size and shelf life of a harvest product. Chitosan is also effective at providing insect and disease control.
The chitosan molecule triggers a defence response within the plant, leading to the formation of physical and chemical barriers against invading pathogens.
Chitosan possesses a high growth stimulating efficacy combined with antifungal and antibacterial activity of systemic character. Chitosan cause no damage to the plant whatsoever.

Chitosan inhibits the reproduction of pathogens. Once applied either via foliar spray or through watering, it provides plant protection against fungal infection by rapid expression of a number of defense responses, including forming structural barriers at sites of attempted fungal attacks.
It also protects against insect attack by activating genes which produce protease inhibitors.
Lastly, chitosan stimulates the plants hormones responsible for root formation,stem growth, fruit formation and development.
In addition to promoting growth and protecting against attacks, using chitosan in a garden can help to improve the beneficial microbial activity of a growing medium.
This increase in microbial activity helps in conversion of nutrients to bio-available form. Chitosan improves the root system, allowing plants to absorb more nutrients from a medium.
We expect
Chitosan to become one of the top plant health and yield products as awareness of its value grows.

Salicylic Acid

The next additive in the this new class of Natural Plant Defenders is Salicylic Acid.
This specific plant molecule has two major functions. In the first it acts as a promoter letting the entire plant know (through the use of intercellular mechanisms) that pathogens are near.
The second way in which Salicylic Acid works is as an activator. It actually heightens the alarm signal a plant experiences. In plants, Salicylic Acid serves the function of ringing the alarm bell when a pathogenic organism begins to invade plant tissues.
A whole web of immunity-enhancing processes unfold after the plants are exposed to Salicylic Acid - when that initial alarm is rung.
A whole range of proteins and enzymes become activated as soon as Salicylic Acid is released and absorbed into plant cells.
Salicylic Acid also promotes DNA-binding proteins that initiate new protein synthesis.

Harpin Protein

The final additive we would like to discuss is the Harpin protein. Harpin, like the other SAR products on this handout,
acts by eliciting a complex natural defense mechanism in plants, analogous to a broad spectrum immune
response in animals. Harpin simultaneously enhances a plant's own growth systems and natural defense mechanisms
to ward off attacks by insects, common diseases and plant stresses.

Unlike Salicylic Acid or Chitosan, Harpin uses a protein for its main mode of action. It can be safely used in a
synergistic way with both Salicylic Acid and Chitosan. Harpin is a naturally occurring bacterial protein present in a
number of species of plant pathogenic bacteria. The first harpin protein was isolated from the bacterium Erwinia
amylovora. To sum up Harpin’s benefits: Along with its plant inducing immune system response, Harpin accelerates
plant development. It increases root and shoot biomass, early flowering, early fruit set, early fruit maturation, and
increases fruit number.

B1 Thiamine

Strengthens plant immune systems so they better stand up to disease and stress.
B1 activates Systemic Acquired Resistance (SAR)

Silicon

Silicon induces the SAR response and enables suberization (cork development in cell walls).

Using Chitosan and Salicylic Acid Together

Compared to Salicylic Acid, Chitosan is slower and less effective at inducing plant cell immunity; in combination
with a well formulated Salicylic Acid solution, chitosan has compounded effects as Salicylic Acid amplifies the
“alarm” triggered by the chitosan. The most powerful products always use both of these ingredients.

I live in a apartment, and don't have the space to have a compost pile or worm bin. I love the BMO line, makes sweet phat buds, and doesn't dent my wallet hard. Love their SPT, use it in all my soil mixes. For ease of use I rate it a 10. 1/2 oz to a gallon of water, stir, and water in. Too simple and I like simple. They say once you try it you'll tell others to buy it, or something like that, and here I am saying " yep it's good stuff ".
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http://stores.ebay.com/Blue-Mountain-Organics

I purchased some of the BMO and have a general question.

The bottles say to mix a half an ounce to one gallon of water.

However there is also a feeding schedule on the BMO website which has you mixing much more than half an ounce to a gallon of water:
http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/tts/bmoFC.html

Is it better to use the half ounce per gallon as listed on the bottles, or use the feeding schedule in the link above (which has you giving much more than half an ounce)?

Thanks!!!

Is anybody out there still using BMO nutes? What soil combinations is everyone using withit ? I use 2 to 1 promix to FFOF , should I add EWC to that mix or coco coir? Anyone adding other nutes besides Bmo during a grow?

Anybody

Haha no soil mix now. And sure everything sounds great what you got. Maybe get BioBizz Heaven and Great White myco too you'd be rockin then. BE SURE to Actually spray the Foliar though. And honestly I'd say you can Just use BMO

I was wondering about BMO myself I used it for one grow of autos years back. This year I looked to see what people opinions were, couldn't find that much info. I am pretty damn impressed. With the stuff! These were grown with a local company soil and nothing but BMO nutes.
First strain is a unknown but is awesome
Second is a Blue Dream was 5 weeks in to flower
and third was a Pure afghan x Himalayan Kush that didnt live u to its full potential because I re potted it two weeks into flower
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jtak said:

I was wondering about BMO myself I used it for one grow of autos years back. This year I looked to see what people opinions were, couldn't find that much info. I am pretty damn impressed. With the stuff! These were grown with a local company soil and nothing but BMO nutes.
First strain is a unknown but is awesome
Second is a Blue Dream was 5 weeks in to flower
and third was a Pure afghan x Himalayan Kush that didnt live u to its full potential because I re potted it two weeks into flower
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Just their nutes nothing else?

jimmy311 said:

Just their nutes nothing else?

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Yes 100% BMO nutes I was either using Ocean forest soil or Oregon's only #4 cant remember

jtak said:

I was wondering about BMO myself I used it for one grow of autos years back. This year I looked to see what people opinions were, couldn't find that much info. I am pretty damn impressed. With the stuff! These were grown with a local company soil and nothing but BMO nutes.
First strain is a unknown but is awesome
Second is a Blue Dream was 5 weeks in to flower
and third was a Pure afghan x Himalayan Kush that didnt live u to its full potential because I re potted it two weeks into flower
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Looks fucking great! See I kept telling everyone but no one listens they just put me on ignore like that greaser

shannonball said:

the tonic is just one thing we use along with the grow it green and flower power.

Yes, we know it starts with the soil. and i never said it didn't, now did i? what's your fucking problem dude? i was just sharing what we use in our grows. you come in and start a bunch of shit about it.

I have no stake in this company. we're very good at it and have no complaints from anyone who try's our bud.

i'm ending this go no-where conversation.

Yes, that is me in the avatar whether you believe me or not i could care less.

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Sexy ass Avatar if I say so myself!