BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

Twitch

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but if I take shatter (shatter at room temp) and put it in the vac chamber, which is heated to above room temp (its heat is around 100-140f) it will liquify, just like any other oil and then let the vacuum pull on it for a few days, you think it would maybe wax up? very interesting.
the jury is out on that i think, and we are on the cusp of the dabs wave. everything that we are doing is more or less all new territory, and yes i know people have been making bho for awhile but to the extent and quality that all of us here are putting out... we are on the cusp. it seems like every time we all start getting into it and getting it down then high times puts out a magazine with what we are doing.

the last shatter i made was hard at 105 i left it at 105 for about 16 to 20 hours and when i came back i had to turn the heat up just to scrap it off, but yes if i were to heat it up it would goo but i am not sure about muffin that was the longest i have air dried a batch like that and i didnt vacpurge it
 

Guzias1

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Not giving up on this muffin!

Been a mission tonight!

been working at the vacuum for 2 hours now, and I see the muffin finallyyyyy getting to its point! Going for the dry muffin. Holy cow.
 

Confucious

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that's a nice looking consistency . How do you "work" it to achieve that?
So I usually use two to three cans of butane to an ounce depending on the potency of the material being used. As I'm blasting of course keeping either nice hot water under the dish, which I've never checked the temp of my water and I should but I usually just get it hot to the touch not boiling or anything just enough to make the butane extraction boil off more. Anyways after I have blasted I either put in on my heat mat from my clones or keep it on hot water while whipping/stirring it constantly. Now I know some people say not to whip or stir but as someone said earlier in this thread its like being a chef or a candy maker and you whip and stir taffy and hard candies to get it to an certain consistency, so I feel the same about the wax. After I get tired of whipping or until its not bubbling as much I throw it in the freezer to get it more manageable, then pull out and scrape into small dish and let set out with no top on so it can evaporate the butane even further. Usually any where from day two to day three you will have that up there in the pic. Now I have had other consistency where its a little more play dohy and a bright green/yellow tint, this I think was from to much butane in the extraction.
 

debaserrrrr

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Whipping is just introducing oxygen to your product. Oxygen degrades thc, so I don't do it (though I prolly dab it fast enough that it doesn't matter).
 

Confucious

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Yeah I don't think it really matters with the quality of oil I blast. Also I've been making BHO for like 4 years and I'm done with it now. Going back to the roots, bubble bags.
 

650baquet

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Waiting for a video to upload...but here are some pics of my last LCOG tiny bud/trim winterized bho run. 1.3grams from 18...not exactly an exciting yield but i was going for quality not quantity. Decent amount of wax and fats separated.

I smoked with an older feller this last weekend who said he lived in San Diego most of his life and his favorite bud to this day is some good ol' OG Kush...i was like uhhhi happen to have some LCOG on me wanna see what you think?
Loved it :) he was about to go do like 6 hrs on a riding lawn mower so i threw him a nug to pass the time haha.
I was initially out visiting a friend who's about 55 also and he had another friend over so we all had that session together. My friend has 4 super tall super lanky BB's under a 600hps in a MASSIVE reflector! i swear it's like 4ftx5ft...i was like wtf they make em that big???
but his plants could be much better...i'll take pics next time to get some better input but he def need to be topping his plants.

gotta head to work
PEACE!
 

Guzias1

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View attachment 2665891here's also some capsules I make out of my wax, this is really what I've been using it for cuz of my lungs starting to hurt.
you know, you can winterize your bho fairly easy?

doesnt need a vacuum to do so, just your hot water baths, ethanol, freezer, and ya, combos of that stuff :]

So I usually use two to three cans of butane to an ounce depending on the potency of the material being used. As I'm blasting of course keeping either nice hot water under the dish, which I've never checked the temp of my water and I should but I usually just get it hot to the touch not boiling or anything just enough to make the butane extraction boil off more. Anyways after I have blasted I either put in on my heat mat from my clones or keep it on hot water while whipping/stirring it constantly. Now I know some people say not to whip or stir but as someone said earlier in this thread its like being a chef or a candy maker and you whip and stir taffy and hard candies to get it to an certain consistency, so I feel the same about the wax. After I get tired of whipping or until its not bubbling as much I throw it in the freezer to get it more manageable, then pull out and scrape into small dish and let set out with no top on so it can evaporate the butane even further. Usually any where from day two to day three you will have that up there in the pic. Now I have had other consistency where its a little more play dohy and a bright green/yellow tint, this I think was from to much butane in the extraction.


thats a hefty amount of tane! but im sure you are getting pretty much all the resin you can which is a nice thought..

going back to bubble will be nice. you can get plenty of good work out of that as well, you check out Mat Rize thread?

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Waiting for a video to upload...but here are some pics of my last LCOG tiny bud/trim winterized bho run. 1.3grams from 18...not exactly an exciting yield but i was going for quality not quantity. Decent amount of wax and fats separated.

I smoked with an older feller this last weekend who said he lived in San Diego most of his life and his favorite bud to this day is some good ol' OG Kush...i was like uhhhi happen to have some LCOG on me wanna see what you think?
Loved it :) he was about to go do like 6 hrs on a riding lawn mower so i threw him a nug to pass the time haha.
I was initially out visiting a friend who's about 55 also and he had another friend over so we all had that session together. My friend has 4 super tall super lanky BB's under a 600hps in a MASSIVE reflector! i swear it's like 4ftx5ft...i was like wtf they make em that big???
but his plants could be much better...i'll take pics next time to get some better input but he def need to be topping his plants.

gotta head to work
PEACE!

yo! speaking of so cal and OG..

you may like this little story.. the farmer ive been working with has two favorite strains he grows. SFV OG, and the xj-13..
http://www.medicaljane.com/review/sfv-og-make-it-strain-8-6/

your buddy in san diego has probably had some gooood types of og down there.. and for him to like your LCOG< must mean a lot!

and i as well saw a room recently, 3-1000 watters, tall massive plants, all lengthy and what not.. ... I did not dare ask the grower why he does that.. but my theory is A) the buds will eventually fill in. Or B) he likes tall plants, that are easy to get in and work with?
 

Guzias1

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Oooo. The sfv og story.

Well. I really have a fuzzy memory of it all. But this guy been growing 15 years, he really loves the strains he is working with. Reallyyy prides the og. Says he was around when they created it.

My details suck, but . They were breading for a strong pheno. And many different seeds were grown, cloned, and all and all they picked this one og, and since then, its been clone only for her. .. This guys buds are some of the best I've ever smoked. Easily top shelf stuff in clubs. .

I've collected 3 different flowers from three different growers so far that im making my favorites.
First was is my" Purple Kush"
2nd is my "Burgundy"
3rd is now my "xj13"

gonna part with my scb .
got an afgoo I've never flowered before, we'll she how she goes, so far she is a weird plant in veg
Got some seeds that are almost ready for flower, scared as shit with these... Almost dont want to flower them, but it's 8 plants worth!

Can't wait yo clear out my unwanted plants, so I can focus on the good ones.

Im reallyyyyyyyyy happy with the progression of my magical garden :)
 

650baquet

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Oooo. The sfv og story.

Well. I really have a fuzzy memory of it all. But this guy been growing 15 years, he really loves the strains he is working with. Reallyyy prides the og. Says he was around when they created it.

My details suck, but . They were breading for a strong pheno. And many different seeds were grown, cloned, and all and all they picked this one og, and since then, its been clone only for her. .. This guys buds are some of the best I've ever smoked. Easily top shelf stuff in clubs. .

I've collected 3 different flowers from three different growers so far that im making my favorites.
First was is my" Purple Kush"
2nd is my "Burgundy"
3rd is now my "xj13"

gonna part with my scb .
got an afgoo I've never flowered before, we'll she how she goes, so far she is a weird plant in veg
Got some seeds that are almost ready for flower, scared as shit with these... Almost dont want to flower them, but it's 8 plants worth!

Can't wait yo clear out my unwanted plants, so I can focus on the good ones.

Im reallyyyyyyyyy happy with the progression of my magical garden :)
Sounds awesome dude.

That guy i went to visit last weekend who was growing the plants had some Blueberry and AK47 seeds, i snagged 4 and 5 respectively.
I also have 2 CherryBomb seeds to germ...can't wait to germ them all!!!

I'm think i'm going to be pretty happy with my grow room here soon. Just gotta buy some more PandaPlastic and rearrange some lights. I'm going to wait to post a video of my room til all that's done and cleaned up.

[video=youtube_share;zbnihWEU1N4]http://youtu.be/zbnihWEU1N4[/video]
Maybe i'll make some edibles with that darker oil. My sisters wedding is coming up and i'd love to hook my brother-in-law up with an edible that'll knock him out...he's been going to law school and is ready to shut his brain off for the summer haha!

I'm just thinking about the method i want to use...any suggestions??
 

650baquet

Active Member
Holy crap...looks cool but could be yielding much more. but ya maybe they will fill out with health sized nugs even down low.

I'm pretty happy about impressing people with my LCOG. Especially some of the older guys who lived in Cali for most their lives.
 

Guzias1

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Maybe i'll make some edibles with that darker oil. My sisters wedding is coming up and i'd love to hook my brother-in-law up with an edible that'll knock him out...he's been going to law school and is ready to shut his brain off for the summer haha!

I'm just thinking about the method i want to use...any suggestions??

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa man! thats one of my fav things to do with oil. is that all the oil you have? have any other randoms laying around?


ive been so caught up in other things, but i want to make some really soon here.

i would make something that requires a fair amount of butter or COCONUT OIL..

i heat my oil/butter in a sauce pan to 150-160F. then stir in my hash oils,

here are my runs and reviews, all were batches of cookies that required 1 stick of butter.

first batch 5grams oil of gold older buds, stirred into butter for 5 minutes, very fun tolerable high.

next batch 12 grams oil, stirred into budder 7 minutes. super potent drunk like high :dunce:

last batch, 17 grams, stirred in 15 minutes, very melow, strong couch lock high. i took a good fall around this time, and had a pretty roughed up foot, after making this batch, i was able to eat these at a correct dosage, and not feel the sharp pain in the foot..

here i am today, still feeling bits of pain in the foot though, which makes it a bit more difficult for me to run on it.. YOU INSPIRE ME! im going to make some of the more drunk-trippy like meds this next time around, see how running is on that :]

what kind of edibles do you plan on making?
 

Guzias1

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Sounds awesome dude.

That guy i went to visit last weekend who was growing the plants had some Blueberry and AK47 seeds, i snagged 4 and 5 respectively.
I also have 2 CherryBomb seeds to germ...can't wait to germ them all!!!

I'm think i'm going to be pretty happy with my grow room here soon. Just gotta buy some more PandaPlastic and rearrange some lights. I'm going to wait to post a video of my room til all that's done and cleaned up.

[video=youtube_share;zbnihWEU1N4]http://youtu.be/zbnihWEU1N4[/video]
Maybe i'll make some edibles with that darker oil. My sisters wedding is coming up and i'd love to hook my brother-in-law up with an edible that'll knock him out...he's been going to law school and is ready to shut his brain off for the summer haha!

I'm just thinking about the method i want to use...any suggestions??

a bit baked ?????? :bigjoint:

dude, thats how my place looks, full of oils on papers :]
thats why i need to make edibles as well.

i hate goo! thin low heat purges do magical things.



my latest run. been pretty fun :leaf:


oil reached temps of 100F max, i got tired of waiting, so i lined vac chamber with parchment, poured oil over parch, rinsed dish with a little everclear, and poured into chamber.. finished off boil in chamber, never going about 100F. .... I FEEL YOU CAN PROBABLY PUSH THE TEMPS HIGHER ON THE BOIL OFF, MAYBE PUSHING 110-120F)



Vacuum process initiated...


took over 3 hours to get this POS, was going for solid muffin, but settled for foamy mushy ball, would stick if i held too long :[ .. i feel i need to boil off the ethanol better next time before this step, but be sure not to fuck up my oil with too much heat as well..

set the muffin to 120F and 29HG over night, came back to her today, and was



flipped the patty, and set the heat to 129F, hope ti stay there over night, i also rasied vac to full vac, started to see waxy chunks form within hour, so i left it..

hoping i come back to goodness tomorrow! next batch awaits!
 

Guzias1

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what media are you using, for gardening?
I use an approx mixture of the following in my medium.


4 parts perlite
2 parts fox farms ocean forest
2 parts worm casting
3 parts coco fiber
few scoops of mykos.




that seems to work pretty well for most my babies through veg. can do straight water for most without feeding.


im finally out of my ffof though! its some hot stuff, thus all the other stuff i add.


i got some vermifire, gonna be dilluting that pretty good initially as well. heard thats also hot , but reallyyyy good.


on top of that, i also got gifted 2 bags of Santa Cruc Hygro

I'm going to try out the sc hygro straight up, i think it should be good to start off my babies without any amending...

you gardening over there twitch? what you got setup? :]
 

Guzias1

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sooooooooooooooo. how many o yall have tried smoking the filtered plant waxes?!?!??!?!

welllll, out of curiosity of how it tasted, felt, etc. i tried a nice dab of real wax today! :]

i had quite a big amount of wax build up in a filter today, so i scooped some ont some parch, purged in vac for about 30- min, 140F, (small amount)

ended up with a clear matter..

soo, grabbed the dab tool, and a skillet, and bam! got a tasty dab, buttt, you can totally feel sooo much plant wax coating your lungs! i compared the finished winterized product to it, and ya.. hands down you can tell..

was a fun experiment, been really wondering the difference.

got 16.5 gram return on about 145g of some xj13 (close trimmings)

enjoy :]

Pure XJ13
 
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