BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

stay under 180 i dont let mine get above 150

i just set my dessicator in a large pan with a few inches of boiling water shatters every time

You are telling me horrible things about the vac it pro! I really hope mine can hold a vac..

When I heat up my chamber, my chamber is usually sitting in a hot water batch.. My hot water bath can be between zero -15 degrees warmer than my oil, depending on if my oil is sitting on buffer parchment paper to raise it off desiccator...

My griddle is between 50-100 degrees warmer than oil. .... My griddle has a knob to adjust heat.. The lowest setting I can put it to is about 90F ...


Takes practice man. . I would keep practicing with smaller batches. May waste a lot of time. But will save you lots of money...

I.M.O. Your temps are too hot... Or your vacuum sucks. you should put a ceramic pate that makes your oil run towards the center of your desiccator instead of run to edges..besure plate don't implode!


Andddd I like to test the temp of my oil by letting the system sit for about a while . Then I check by taking oil out of chamber, and read heat ... Its pretty simple... I do it often till I've tuned the temp..

interesting. I will make a fresh batch of oil and re make it... really paying attention to heat. boy is this getting expensive. let me know how your vac it pro hold up. not saying im not happy with the desiccator, but im def not happy with my setup. (pump too small/ chamber too big I think)

1. can you make wax out of any quality material? (not that mine is junk.. just wondering)

2. can you make wax out of any strain?

3. what would be the reason for me not seeing any major muffining? is that because your mason jars are tiny and pull a serious vacuum, whereas my 3 gallon chamber is quite a bit more volume? ive let my pump run for an hour before. no difference. cant get past 26.5 - 27" or so at 2200" 660 meters.

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is that because your mason jars are tiny and pull a serious vacuum, whereas my 3 gallon chamber is quite a bit more volume? ive let my pump run for an hour before. no difference. cant get past 26.5 - 27" or so at 2200" 660 meters.

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i have actually not been able to muffin some material, rarely though.. most of it muffins.. i feel when i dont muffin it enough, thats where i fail..

do smaller runs man, learn. it is really difficult, unless you know what you are doing, or unless you have the same exact material to work with time after time..

IMPORTANT, THIS IS A LEARNING TUTORIAL.. NOT REC EVERY-TIME, -would probably take too much effort..
i would start from scratch, do a 1 tube run, and dont waste time, spray, dry, vacuum (no heat) achieve muffin.. you must achieve muffin. no heat... then melt, (outside of your chamber should be no higher than 135-45 on melt.. just melt shit slow, it will eventually pool up.. once it does, kill heat pad.. turn vacuum to full pump, hopefully you will see shit puff up fast then deflate... get your oil(temp of actual oil in chamber) to 100 degrees F and start full vacuum... vacuum till you see bubbles very very veryyy slowly coming out... then raise temp to 110 degrees F.. full vac.. vac for a longgg time.. id say raise 7 degree F ever 3-5 hours from there. til you get wax... i hope it works for you, and anyone trying.. us who already know how to make it try to speed it up, we all probably have wasted much time learning and failing.. keep trying/tweaking this process till you achieve, then once you do, play it safe.. all foreign material is tricky IMO.. unless is ultra fresh and dank.. those tend to just work...

i think it is possible to make wax out of any material.. the first time i EVER made wax, i was working with extremeleyyyyyy old material.. but it waxed up, fell asleep desiccator got to an extreme heat, vacuum was running all night, wax was bone dry.. .. made me think i was boss.. have failed many times since then.. but! like ive mentioned millions of time son here, each material has a different process..

gonna try a run tonight!

Guzias1 said:

i think it is possible to make wax out of any material.. the first time i EVER made wax, i was working with extremeleyyyyyy old material.. but it waxed up, fell asleep desiccator got to an extreme heat, vacuum was running all night, wax was bone dry.. .. made me think i was boss.. have failed many times since then.. but! like ive mentioned millions of time son here, each material has a different process..

gonna try a run tonight!

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you left it running all night with heat on at the same time

and props to you guzias you always have long post explaining your method

low heat continuous vacuum and time

confucius say "if you wait it will wax"

"props to you guzias you always have long post"

i sort of really dig this stuff.. ... i like to prepare explanations with quality herbs intake before hand :]

BUTTTTTT, i think im gooing up a batch as we speak.. i dunnooo..

working with a bout a 1/2 z..

was able to get it to extreme slow bubbly stage at about 110F

so i bumbed up heat to about 120..

fell asleep..


woke up, still no wax, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.. but had slow bubbles still coming out, also noticed a little moisture on roof of jar, so thats good, extra purged.. .. when i took product out though, i have a nice touchable shatter at room temp.. this is good, still not completely over the edge sticky goo...

i bumped up heat about 5F .. came to work.. soon enough i find out if im making any progress, or made goo..

all at 30HG... my little vac chamber holds a good vac :]


my damn vac it pro should arrive thurs, says fedex.. gonna jb-weld her shut on all fittings, even think i may weld over handle joints as well.. any thing thats not the rubber seal will get JB.. i feel JB weld will be good enough for the process.. im not sure though, could be toxic under 150F heat, will find out.. but no leaks!

i would then bump it up like you are doing slowly

I dont think JB weld is air tight... its tough shit, but I would use something thinner... and then even then it sounds like a bad idea.

I think its just the bottom, and a simple o-ring and re taping the threads and doing everything properly would help. im a tradesman pipefitter and I see a few small things done wrong with my threaded fittings and the way it was built. I imagine if I took the time and re did it. with about 10 cents of teflon tape and 1 cent worth of o-rings it could be air tight. maybe its the silicone seal around the egde, who knows. I doubt it though.


1. is there a right and wrong side of parchment paper to be using? my god that stuff pisses me off. my oil is always stuck to it, even putting it in the freezer doesnt help (especially the oil ive touched... seems to mash it into the paper). and it could be just my freezer is fucked up, or im retarded, (the dish was cold though)... but after having my oil sit in the freezer for 24 hours, it still wasnt cold and solid and shattery. it was super sticky and hard to work with. why?

lolll. i dunno man, can you send me a picture of your parchment paper brand? is it made in mexico?

well heres tonights journey. 10 grams of weed. 1 gram bubble hash powderized. 1 gram kief from the grinder. 12 grams total. 2 cans of butane. 3.2 grams of very nice oil out.

I believe the reason for your major major muffining at the beginning is because is it barely purged when you first put it in. mine is usually very very purged, except this time. I tried something different. usually I over purge if anything. and my water, boiling (230f) is way too hot. so ive been getting my oil way too hot my whole life. ive been monitoring this oil closely ad the closest its hit is around 115-120 max.

heres some pics.




very underpurged:




yum:





skin forming






the starting glob. 3.2 grams:




vac it pro seal slowly dying... not cool. could be because I ran it way too hot the first few times.





omg almost got it to wax kinda. got so excited.. knew it was too good to be true. it slowly went away, especially when I de vacced to test the temperature.




turned into this when cooled: (couple chunks.. I know )




also. this whole de vacing thing to test the temp is really a hassle. so theres 2 ways... just check temp of the griddle and minus approx 10 degrees from that or so.

OR, I was thinking if you could get a probe type thermometer that goes from 0-200f that you could stick UNDER the parchment paper/oil but inside of the desiccator... and mount the temp gauge right below where the vac gauge is, but inside of the chamber.

i tried the probe thing it is hard to read and not accurate, but ur doing good it will go to that shatter state then it eventually turns to wax
what are you using for filtering it? i ask just because it looks like there are weed in it

try this as soon as you get it depressurized pull up the wax paper and take the temp of the bottom of the wax paper and try to line up what temp that is reading compared to the temp of your griddle. that's how i learned mine was a 10 degree diff

is it sitting in a bowl inside the chamber?

so, im just hoping away! i think these are the slowww bubbles am looking for.. water temp is 128ish... oil is about 123 ish...

i took it out and test touched it, its really starting to turn into a rock. slow as shittt, but what evs.. its how it goes..

http://youtu.be/Wx9wVJolS5k

almost looks like you had it going vacpurge! that oil is good, its hard to imagine, but that eventually waxes up :]

keep up the small runs, your getting there..

Twitch. said:

i tried the probe thing it is hard to read and not accurate, but ur doing good it will go to that shatter state then it eventually turns to wax
what are you using for filtering it? i ask just because it looks like there are weed in it

try this as soon as you get it depressurized pull up the wax paper and take the temp of the bottom of the wax paper and try to line up what temp that is reading compared to the temp of your griddle. that's how i learned mine was a 10 degree diff

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yes its in a bowl in the chamber with parchment inside the bowl and taped down so nothing moves and I dont lose any oil. lots of heat transfer going on though.

I will try the temp thing, thats a good idea.

I use 2 coffee filters in the end of my honey bee extractor. im not too sure where the chunks come from. I will clean my bowl better next time and put in new filters.


my oil is tiny, slow, thick bubbles coming up right now. I left it overnight but I guess the plate wasnt quite hot enough (better safe than sorry) so it wasnt really liquid. with that being said, I dont think I lose ANY vacuum over night. maybe .5" at the most but I think that could be from the butane letting off something in the chamber which takes away from the vacuum.

I am just going to keep it around 120F and keep pulling on it and see what happens.

is the griddle at 120 or the oil?

"also. this whole de vacing thing to test the temp is really a hassle. so theres 2 ways... just check temp of the griddle and minus approx 10 degrees from that or so."
mannnn, you gots to know the temps! my oil temps can fluctuate very easily.. you know, i gots my ghetto setup with the mason jar dunked in a hot bath, leaving the top of my mason jar exposed to my room temp.. my room temp fluctuates 10-15 deg, this makes my oil temps fluctuate, and i hate that! my heating source sucks, its hard to judge the oils temp compared to my outer temps.. sometimes my oil is up to 15F cooler than my water, sometimes its 2F warmer than my water, fluctuations that big stankkkk... SO, i hate taking my oil out, but i do, and the main reason i take my oil out multiple times, is just to test the heat (laser on oil or bottom of parchment instantly) , its that important to me to know (i think the bubbles speak more than the heat though) while i have the oil out, i always work the oil towards the center of parchment, keeps things neat..


"I use 2 coffee filters in the end of my honey bee extractor. im not too sure where the chunks come from. I will clean my bowl better next time and put in new filters."

mang, 10+ filters :]

if im using primo buds, in my 7 gram BBAB turkey baster, maybe 4 filters :]

so on my current journey, im not sure what will come out, at the moment, I have this.. call it what you may, its very very shiny, its tough as shitttttt, and super super stretchy.. tiny bit of stickiness.. hand workable though :] this finished off with the oil being 125F..

i tore a chunk off, put back in the vacuum, and tuned up temps about 5-10F .. im here at work now, gonna see if that does anything, if it doesnt, im happy i stopped while i was ahead :]

thats a good idea to pull a lil piece off then stick it back in and then jack up the temps

yeah that is a very good idea.

what I dont understand is why youre leaving it at that stage? thought you wanted wax every time?

even with my 60$ griddle, the temps seem to be different all over the dish. maybe it just my temp gun, but its very hard to get them super super accurate I find.

The Oil, she is an evil mistress, full of wonder and confusion.