SmerkedOut
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I'm honestly thinking forget the R and just go DWC. But why do you think 5?
Best Design for Perpetual Grow?
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nomofatum
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I'm figuring 8 weeks of flower + a bit more because we added veg nutes for first two weeks. To get a harvest every two weeks you need 5 groups. Otherwise I would say screw it and just have one system and harvest/plant as a whole. Just have bigger moms, less but big harvests.
SmerkedOut
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I dunno... I have a lot of thinking to do about the actual growing system. But you definitely think 1 big flower room is better than multiple smaller ones?
nomofatum
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Easier at least. Easier to setup, less equipment, easier to work in. If you use UVB, make sure you use mylar not panda.
Here is what I would do if I were you, ignoring your initial requirements.
Small Veg/Mom space.
One larger grow space, your 40 sqft space.
I would have 3 600w fixtures. I would take clones for the whole batch, put 2 MH bulbs in (1 HPS), run two weeks in veg, switch out so 2 are HPS 1 is MH for flower + UVB. I think that is how you will get the max output for your space over time.
justugh
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the reason i am telling u RDWC for flowering is the PH issue and the amount of feed and water the plants use
it will make the work much easier on u for the plants and to get a great crop ............the fact u are 25 gallons in a 4 bucket system the PH will stay stable alot longer
for u need to Veggie for at least 5 to 6 weeks 1 week for the roots and 4 weeks for the growth of the plant (should get like 5 6 nodes) then u can flower
the mothering plant is only good for 3 clonings ...........so u need to bush her up so u can get how ever many u want
it will make the work much easier on u for the plants and to get a great crop ............the fact u are 25 gallons in a 4 bucket system the PH will stay stable alot longer
for u need to Veggie for at least 5 to 6 weeks 1 week for the roots and 4 weeks for the growth of the plant (should get like 5 6 nodes) then u can flower
the mothering plant is only good for 3 clonings ...........so u need to bush her up so u can get how ever many u want
nomofatum
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I don't think you need RDWC unless you want to use a water chiller. Instead I would pump the contents into a large container to PH or when setting up the system initially. The water will mix on it's own, just slowly. The water in the pipes connecting the buckets gets warm faster than the water in the buckets so it rises into a bucket and is replaced in the line with cooler water. Over time the water will move from one bucket to the next. You won't see much PH difference from one end of a system to the other for very long.
SmerkedOut
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I'm thinking something like this:
(source: http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/index.php?/topic/183217-best-method-of-dwc-aeration/)
and then making maybe 4 or 5 of those. Then I could tie them together into a big RDWC.
(source: http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/index.php?/topic/183217-best-method-of-dwc-aeration/)
and then making maybe 4 or 5 of those. Then I could tie them together into a big RDWC.
SmerkedOut
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yeah that's basically what I'm thinking but with multiple plants per container.
but looking at it it looks like it'll actually use more water that way... damn I just don't know.
justugh
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that will work
u will need 6 totes,,,,,,,,,,,2 inside the system and 1 outside copy it 2 times ( the frist set is for your plants to start flowering the other 2 tubes in there are for your finishing flowers
your veggie tent u have the mother and clone section
this would have u intaken once a month large amount ........the 2 intake u should break even and able to order more goodies for what ever u want to do next
u will need 6 totes,,,,,,,,,,,2 inside the system and 1 outside copy it 2 times ( the frist set is for your plants to start flowering the other 2 tubes in there are for your finishing flowers
your veggie tent u have the mother and clone section
this would have u intaken once a month large amount ........the 2 intake u should break even and able to order more goodies for what ever u want to do next
SmerkedOut
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So let's say 9 big plants in 5 gallon RDWC, you think I could pull ~30oz off those 9 plants? I mean to me that just sounds a little high. Like that's why I was thinking SOG, because you can grow like 64 plants in that same space, and each plant usually yields about 1/2 oz (according to what I've read)
nomofatum
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Sure you could, but you would have to run a fairly long veg to pull that much off 9 of them. I would run 30 of them in your 10x4 space. You should be able to pull over an oz each with no/short veg.
justugh
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no trouble at all u will not need no where near 9 plants for 30 oz 9 plants done in a dwc right u are looking near 5lb maybe 8
your photo plant so u can spend little more time in veggie building up the root mass .........if u can get that near mine that monster displaced 1 and half gallons of water .......if u can get something that is 1/2 gallon or even 3/4 u are looking at over 10 oz per plant when done and dried
my trick was a micro pore air defuser with a a over powered pump pushing 1 gallon of air a min
justugh
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no it has been done for clones i seen it ..........they were trying fogponics
justugh
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it is the flower that will get u with out a RDWC.........i had the time to spend checking on the plant 4/6 times a day near the end to make sure the PH was not too low the thing was sucking up water and food like nothing
plants are all about the root mass ........u get a good one they intake like linebacker
here is the trick my mistake to make a monster fallow the RDWC plan when in veggie in there own buckets exchange it once a week ...combine that with the air stone and pump
flora all in one box .........u will use the whole thing
http://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Flora-Series-Performance/dp/B008UCCCII
plants are all about the root mass ........u get a good one they intake like linebacker
here is the trick my mistake to make a monster fallow the RDWC plan when in veggie in there own buckets exchange it once a week ...combine that with the air stone and pump
flora all in one box .........u will use the whole thing
http://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Flora-Series-Performance/dp/B008UCCCII
SmerkedOut
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Well I was saying 9 buckets because I think I could only fit maybe 18-21 total in that space. So 9 is about half and 1 month is about half the flower period. So I would need to pull 30oz off of 9 plants, or 60oz off of all 18-21 plants.
nomofatum
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Look at different buckets. I'm building a room out now as well. I'm using 24 square buckets in 32 sqft (4x8.) I could fit more if I wanted. I'm keeping a couple of dirt or individual DWC buckets so I can move plants out of the way just inside the door for working space.