Astral Traveling or Projectory.

phobos915

Member
Hey guys, im not sure if this is in the right area but here goes. I was just wondering if anyone has done this and what did you find out or what happen when you did it. Do not criticize this thread. If you don't have anything good to say then please, keep it to your self. Thanks, Phobos.
 

karri0n

Well-Known Member
Is it something you're working on trying, or something you have experience with? My follow up to that is have you ever done anything along the lines of meditation, trance, self hypnosis? That's where you will need to start. I would try to do it without the help of any chemicals first, including weed. It WILL be much easier if you smoke first, but less controlled, and you won't really learn how to do it without using chemicals as a crutch. Something stronger than weed like a hallucinogen has the same advantage/disadvantage, with the added disadvantage that you might just be tripping thereby ruining a perfectly good vision with a bunch of weird ass shit.

Are you trying to project to another place in the physical world, to be able to see/experience material things? Or are you trying to journey in a spirit world to learn more about your own self and the universe? I don't know that projecting yourself somewhere else within the physical world is even actually possible, and I don't have any experience with it, though people talk about it, and I know studies and experiments have been done regarding "remote viewing" which is a form of it.
 

GoldenGanja13

Well-Known Member
I find the easiest way to start is to get a nice High and start meditating, allowing your mind/spirit to feel light, safe and free to move up and out~
 

karri0n

Well-Known Member
I find the easiest way to start is to get a nice High and start meditating, allowing your mind/spirit to feel light, safe and free to move up and out~

I agree with this too. That will probably work. I just feel like, if you've never done it, you might be expecting the experience to be different than what you will get. Don't expect to be able to float over to your grandmother's house and see what she's doing.
 

plantvision

Active Member
Too each belief there own. But the Universe is very very big and we are very very tiny. Don't see yourself short.
Agreed, never let your mind and spirit not be open to the universe and beyond.

Lucid dreaming is a good excersise to grasp control of your mind.
But it seems that being able to move beyond that requires yourself to allow not trying to control your spirit, but allowing the universe to lead the way.

There is sooooo much we as humans limited to our earthbound form that we do not comprehend.
I do believe we can train our minds to work toward loosening those anchors.
 

iNVESTIGATE

Well-Known Member
But how do we know that we aren't getting astral projection and lucid dreaming mixed up... one and the same.

Controlled DMT trip. Or something.. lol
 

karri0n

Well-Known Member
We have access to the same realms, dimensions, and faculties in dreams as we do when journeying or doing "astral projection"(I really don't like the term, but it has stuck in the collective consciousness so whatever). So, at this level, the difference doesn't really matter. In practice, we know we aren't getting them mixed up by having experience doing both and realizing that they really don't feel the same.

Not to mention that astral projection is generally not done while sleeping. If you are intentionally having lucid dreams by some means other than going to sleep - it's not lucid dreaming. It's meditation, self-guided meditation, or journeying.
 

iNVESTIGATE

Well-Known Member
We have access to the same realms, dimensions, and faculties in dreams as we do when journeying or doing "astral projection"(I really don't like the term, but it has stuck in the collective consciousness so whatever). So, at this level, the difference doesn't really matter. In practice, we know we aren't getting them mixed up by having experience doing both and realizing that they really don't feel the same.

Not to mention that astral projection is generally not done while sleeping. If you are intentionally having lucid dreams by some means other than going to sleep - it's not lucid dreaming. It's meditation, self-guided meditation, or journeying.

Yeahh, thought so.. lol

I've recently been looking into the beginning stages of meditation... mainly, proper and efficient ways of breathing. http://www.abc-of-yoga.com/pranayama/

Intense stuff.. coughed like a bitch at first. hahh and you know them bitches and coughing... lol but yahh eventually after learning the proper techniques i plan to look into deep seeded meditation and the like. Interesting as fuck. And + i can't bag it until I've at least tried it first hand.. lol
 

bobbypyn

Well-Known Member
Karrion, you a remote viewer too? I got the dvd set from maj Ed a long time ago & dialed it in. I don't mes with it anymore cuz it gives me a bad vibe. i picked the lotto numbers once using RV but didn't buy a ticket; i was one number off. Remote Viewing is real. Ingo is a genius and his abilities are proven.

RV is what let me know I'm a Jedi. now I can do all kinds of neat things...

laugh all you need to, doubters. this shit is real.
 

karri0n

Well-Known Member
Karrion, you a remote viewer too? I got the dvd set from maj Ed a long time ago & dialed it in. I don't mes with it anymore cuz it gives me a bad vibe. i picked the lotto numbers once using RV but didn't buy a ticket; i was one number off. Remote Viewing is real. Ingo is a genius and his abilities are proven.
No, I'm not a remote viewer. I don't know who Ingo is - but I'd be interested in seeing the proof as I have never heard of any conclusive, accepted proof of any form of second sight. I'm not saying that I doubt anyone - just that I've never seen any documented proof that was accepted by any mainstream community.

RV is what let me know I'm a Jedi. now I can do all kinds of neat things...

laugh all you need to, doubters. this shit is real.

:???:
 

bobbypyn

Well-Known Member
would you like me to prove it to you? I'm not being a dick either; i'm dead fucking serious.

if you're open at least to the possibility that it's possible, we can play :)
 

karri0n

Well-Known Member
If you can do it in one post... then sure. I'd rather not see this thread degenerate further into the ridiculous than it already has......

I'd also like a link with some info to this "ingo" person, as well as the proof of his abilities if you can dig it up.

edit: it appears to be Ingo Swann....

"[ingo] Swann is dissatisfied in a role as a passive subject. He feels he must contribute to the preliminary design of the research. According to Russell Targ and Harold Puthoff, there have been "Swann-inspired innovations" that have led to impressive results in parapsychology. Experiments not controlled by Swann have not been very successful. These are rarely mentioned, and if so, only in passing.[4][5]"
 

bobbypyn

Well-Known Member
nevermind. live in doubt & fear of the unknown; all it would have taken was you in front of a mirror with a piece of paper. have it your way. enjoy your journey.
 

karri0n

Well-Known Member
One needs only to look at my earlier posts even in this thread to see how "doubtful" or "fearful of the unknown" I am....

I've personally journeyed to at least three different "underworlds" for lack of a better word, and learned important lessons from all three. I've also seen Asgard. I'm just far more interested in spiritually fulfilling activities than charlatans and parlor tricks.
 

mindphuk

Well-Known Member
Karrion, you a remote viewer too? I got the dvd set from maj Ed a long time ago & dialed it in. I don't mes with it anymore cuz it gives me a bad vibe. i picked the lotto numbers once using RV but didn't buy a ticket; i was one number off. Remote Viewing is real. Ingo is a genius and his abilities are proven.

RV is what let me know I'm a Jedi. now I can do all kinds of neat things...

laugh all you need to, doubters. this shit is real.
You should apply to win the $1 million dollars. http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html
 

jonblaze420

Well-Known Member
The Celestial Sanctum
---------------------

O
O O
O O O
O O O O
O O O O O

The following is the remote viewing technique taught to by British Intelligence and the NSA during my part in Project Mannequin. My Shamanic ancestors perfected the methods of trance ( dreaming while awake ) and I hold these teachings in my genetic memory as do many others out there.

By perfecting the trance state the intelligence community can train people for seemingly superhuman feats such as jumping off high buildings and landing without injury because the subject has been hypnotised into believing he is jumping off a six ladder.

Everything is in the mind and life is a dream!

------------------------------------------------------------
​

'In dreams we do so many things

We set aside the rules we know

and fly above the world so high

in great and shining rings

if only we could always live in dreams

if only we could make of life

what in dreams'


Roy Orbison

'In the real world'

------------------------------------------------------------
​
1) Take a photo of the location you wish to R.V and stare at it for a few seconds until you have the image in your mind's eye. This is known as your 'vector intension'.

2) Put the photo down and lay down in a comfortable place. Close your eyes and count to 12 slowly. With each out-breath 'feel' yourself sinking deeper and deeper into whatever you are laying on.

3) Now visualise yourself floating up to the ceiling and though the top of the roof. The moment you project out the top of the roof, the picture in your mind's eye reverses like a mirror and you are now looking down on your rooftop.

4) Visualise yourself floating higher and higher into the sky. Your house becomes tiny. After this you can see you’re whole town, then your whole country, then the whole planet as your bio-plasmic body moves out into the outer atmosphere of the planet. How much of your awareness you take with your bio-plasmic/astral body depends on your ability to relax. Do not try to relax. Without trying to sound corny, love and peace is the key to relaxation.

5) Now float away from the planet and see it disappear as you move into space. You will automatically be pulled into the galactic centre through the force of electro-magnetic energy. You see yourself approaching a column of white light and as you enter the column you float peacefully up in a spiral movement and move through a portal at the top of the spiral.

6) You are now in the 5th dimension. This is where you create your 'Celestial Sanctum' which will be your base of operations for all remote viewing you perform. You can visualise this as sitting in a luxury mansion, cosy cottage or any other building. It does not have to even be a building. The world of the Shaman is not limited.

7) See yourself sitting on a bed or chair in one of the rooms then get up, walk down the stairs, out of the front door. In your driveway you will find your favourite car or any other vehicle you choose. This is where your Shamanic R.V journey really begins.

8) You drive through various roads and scenery of your choice until you arrive at a beach. Here you get out the car and walk along the beach. It is a beautiful day and you feel very happy.

9) You come across your 'spirit guide' who is sitting at a table on the beach. This could be a Buddha, Jesus Christ, Merlin, a Shamanic Power Animal or whoever. Just know that God sits at the top of creation and he, she, it is alive and loving.

10) You ask your spirit guide ( he/she who guides your spirit ) to help you in your RV session and ask it be done for the highest good. You can also have in-depth conversations with him/her at this point as you are vibrating on a much higher electro-magnetic frequency.

11) You then walk away from the table and walk further along the beach. Here you come across an elevator. You push the button that says 'open' and the elevator door opens in front of you. You get in and push 'ground floor'. As the elevator descends you see large red lights travel past you in the elevator. The elevator has an open roof the red lights are in the elevator shaft. They are numbered and as you descend lower you look up and count them

10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1

When you reach 1 the doors open and walk into purple coloured room.

11) The room can be visualised as you see fit. You can also create other rooms for other purposes. This purple room is your RV room. There is a large screen at the far end. See your original vector intension on the screen. If it is a military base then walk through the screen into the base. From here you move around the same way you do in the Celestial Sanctum. Go wherever you want. You are infinite.
If at any time you feel in danger, project yourself instantly back into the purple room. When you have finished the Rv session, come back into your physical body by travelling back the way you came in reverse. Do not just coe back into your physical body from the purple. This is important as your guides will downstep your frequencies on the way back.
 

karri0n

Well-Known Member
The Celestial Sanctum
---------------------

O
O O
O O O
O O O O
O O O O O

The following is the remote viewing technique taught to by British Intelligence and the NSA during my part in Project Mannequin. My Shamanic ancestors perfected the methods of trance ( dreaming while awake ) and I hold these teachings in my genetic memory as do many others out there.

By perfecting the trance state the intelligence community can train people for seemingly superhuman feats such as jumping off high buildings and landing without injury because the subject has been hypnotised into believing he is jumping off a six ladder.

Everything is in the mind and life is a dream!

------------------------------------------------------------
​

'In dreams we do so many things

We set aside the rules we know

and fly above the world so high

in great and shining rings

if only we could always live in dreams

if only we could make of life

what in dreams'


Roy Orbison

'In the real world'

------------------------------------------------------------
​
1) Take a photo of the location you wish to R.V and stare at it for a few seconds until you have the image in your mind's eye. This is known as your 'vector intension'.

2) Put the photo down and lay down in a comfortable place. Close your eyes and count to 12 slowly. With each out-breath 'feel' yourself sinking deeper and deeper into whatever you are laying on.

3) Now visualise yourself floating up to the ceiling and though the top of the roof. The moment you project out the top of the roof, the picture in your mind's eye reverses like a mirror and you are now looking down on your rooftop.

4) Visualise yourself floating higher and higher into the sky. Your house becomes tiny. After this you can see you’re whole town, then your whole country, then the whole planet as your bio-plasmic body moves out into the outer atmosphere of the planet. How much of your awareness you take with your bio-plasmic/astral body depends on your ability to relax. Do not try to relax. Without trying to sound corny, love and peace is the key to relaxation.

5) Now float away from the planet and see it disappear as you move into space. You will automatically be pulled into the galactic centre through the force of electro-magnetic energy. You see yourself approaching a column of white light and as you enter the column you float peacefully up in a spiral movement and move through a portal at the top of the spiral.

6) You are now in the 5th dimension. This is where you create your 'Celestial Sanctum' which will be your base of operations for all remote viewing you perform. You can visualise this as sitting in a luxury mansion, cosy cottage or any other building. It does not have to even be a building. The world of the Shaman is not limited.

7) See yourself sitting on a bed or chair in one of the rooms then get up, walk down the stairs, out of the front door. In your driveway you will find your favourite car or any other vehicle you choose. This is where your Shamanic R.V journey really begins.

8) You drive through various roads and scenery of your choice until you arrive at a beach. Here you get out the car and walk along the beach. It is a beautiful day and you feel very happy.

9) You come across your 'spirit guide' who is sitting at a table on the beach. This could be a Buddha, Jesus Christ, Merlin, a Shamanic Power Animal or whoever. Just know that God sits at the top of creation and he, she, it is alive and loving.

10) You ask your spirit guide ( he/she who guides your spirit ) to help you in your RV session and ask it be done for the highest good. You can also have in-depth conversations with him/her at this point as you are vibrating on a much higher electro-magnetic frequency.

11) You then walk away from the table and walk further along the beach. Here you come across an elevator. You push the button that says 'open' and the elevator door opens in front of you. You get in and push 'ground floor'. As the elevator descends you see large red lights travel past you in the elevator. The elevator has an open roof the red lights are in the elevator shaft. They are numbered and as you descend lower you look up and count them

10
9
8
7
6
5
4
3
2
1

When you reach 1 the doors open and walk into purple coloured room.

11) The room can be visualised as you see fit. You can also create other rooms for other purposes. This purple room is your RV room. There is a large screen at the far end. See your original vector intension on the screen. If it is a military base then walk through the screen into the base. From here you move around the same way you do in the Celestial Sanctum. Go wherever you want. You are infinite.
If at any time you feel in danger, project yourself instantly back into the purple room. When you have finished the Rv session, come back into your physical body by travelling back the way you came in reverse. Do not just coe back into your physical body from the purple. This is important as your guides will downstep your frequencies on the way back.

A decent guided meditation - but I actually like the buzz that lasts sometimes up to a couple hours when you "snap" back into consciousness rather than taking all the steps back.

Just like MP said - for all its proven efficacy, there sure are a lack of claimants for the one million dollar prize - not to mention multiple lottery winners. What I know is that I'm considerably more experienced in trance work than the average person(and even many people who do have experience with it), and I've tried it - and not been successful at producing much accurate information about a physical place.
 

mindphuk

Well-Known Member
Just like MP said - for all its proven efficacy, there sure are a lack of claimants for the one million dollar prize - not to mention multiple lottery winners.
First, how can you win the lottery? Are you supposed to be able to see the future?

As for the $1 million prize, I would hope its mostly because people that are adapt at RV just haven't heard of the prize. I hope that bobbypyn or jonblaze420 will apply for the prize and maybe toss me 10% for telling them about it. ;)
 
Top