Apache AT600 led vs 1000w HPS Blue Dream Grow
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Greengenes707
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Not totally bound since they don't wrap around the outside...but the whole pot is solid roots and is drinking more than it can hold.
They will be fine this run...but next time I will have things dialed and pots size is part of it. Also 4/light instead of 6now.
I don't ever transplant in flower...plus 6 10gals won't fit in the test area.
They will be fine this run...but next time I will have things dialed and pots size is part of it. Also 4/light instead of 6now.
I don't ever transplant in flower...plus 6 10gals won't fit in the test area.
Free4all
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Gotcha. Yeah I know all about that root ball. I've jumped all the way up to 15 gallon fabric pots because of that, sometimes only putting 10 gallons worth of coco and just folding down the sides. 5 gallon won't do it, unless you put them on automated watering which I tried one time but didn't like the feel of. I like the interaction too much. Watering time is my alone time away from everything and everyone. Kinda like meditation.
I did use another trick when I first encountered that problem and it does help a little. I wrapped small plastic trash bags around the outside of the pots to slow the evaporation down. It did help, but the roots will grow through the pot and down the side if you do that. Didn't seem to hurt though.
I did use another trick when I first encountered that problem and it does help a little. I wrapped small plastic trash bags around the outside of the pots to slow the evaporation down. It did help, but the roots will grow through the pot and down the side if you do that. Didn't seem to hurt though.
joe macclennan
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putting plastic bags around fabric pots kinda defeats the purpose of using fabric pots does it not?
Greengenes707
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It does defeats the purpose of the air prune, but would help with less surface area exposed to air for evaporation. What is developed already would be little feeder roots...then if it was now covered, larger taps would start to appear/form.
Cool idea but like I said they will be fine. I will just water/feed more. It's not optimal, but will work. This round was more about the comparison being even as possible...and that is being achieved. After this there will not be any testing per say, at least things like separation, and maximizing will be the goal. Bigger pots are apart of getting it dialed.
natro.hydro
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So which side is more root bound, sorry if you mentioned it... stoners tend to forget..
Greengenes707
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Both are the same. No difference that is noticeable.
What got me thinking and talking about this is that the last week or so of watering...it has sat on the top for a little then soaked down...as where for a while it was soaking right down because of the coco...well now the roots are so dense it holds the water up.
Free4all
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Yeah it kinda does but if your trying to fix having to water twice a day by hand it helps. I think learning about pot size with fabric pots when you hand water is something every coco grower that uses fabric pots probably goes through. Bigger pots, less frequent watering.
Greengenes707
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Everyone needs to chill. I said things were fine.
I'm watering/feeding every other day...maybe once a day since they were thirsty when I came back from my trip...so they drank the first watering then stored the next.
I don't have a problem with it really...just that I will change somethings NEXT round.
I'm watering/feeding every other day...maybe once a day since they were thirsty when I came back from my trip...so they drank the first watering then stored the next.
I don't have a problem with it really...just that I will change somethings NEXT round.
Greengenes707
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Your tripping...it's $1999...haha...but seriously with the code it's 1999. Yes it's expensive.
Chronikool
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You should really do this...and that.....hehehehehe...oh the ease of the internet...
skunkd0c
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That was my fear, it was real
I guess its a bit like when they compare sports cars on topgear great entertainment and practical advice for millionaires
it would be nice to see this expensive led run against an ebay Chinese model
maybe that could be the next episode
peace
kmog33
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I'm actually debating on buying a vipar with the same output as my ti smartlamp and there's $1000 difference in price and I'll definitely do a comparison journal when I pick it up. Probably a couple months though. Have to finish all my current stuff.
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Greengenes707
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I won't use lights that are worse on paper and in reality...even to prove a point. I don't just grow to play around with lights(that's debatable)...I need to produce a certain amount as well. I am into led's that are trying to replace a 1K hps...anything else isn't my goal. If it doesn't really have that potential...I will just use the 1K. Apaches are the only lights I feel that can do it, so I use them. I pay $0.35/kwh, so it comes back quicker than most.
I have been offered lights by a few led companies...none have passed my cut to even accept free lights...and none have ever made me regret that decision. If someone out there is using cheaper or chinese lights and killing it/me then I would be interested. But I haven't seen anything close to 1K from something on the cheaper side.
I have been offered lights by a few led companies...none have passed my cut to even accept free lights...and none have ever made me regret that decision. If someone out there is using cheaper or chinese lights and killing it/me then I would be interested. But I haven't seen anything close to 1K from something on the cheaper side.
kmog33
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I'm all 600s I've always preferred twice as many 600s than 1000s an I've used both in different scenarios. The only time I feel 1000s make sense is large scale. Like commercial, but if you're growing personals or just pound or 2, 600 are a better bet when you match wattage they pull more than thousands. So that's what I'm going for replacement wise.
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foreverflyhi
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Homie! Get them free lights and pass on this way! Haha
Greengenes707
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Day 33. The first 3 pics are HPS(white balanced), the next 4 are LED.
And a video too...
And a video too...
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puffenuff
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Happy Sunday bro. Great update. Both sides look awesome. Huge difference in temps but that was expected. That blackberry nug looked delicious and nice bong. Digging the ash catcher, always a pain to suck ash through and muck up the water. So you're planning on 3 at 600's for the next run?