Another Beheading

NoDrama

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why are we the worlds babysitter?
Well you see, we have this unwritten rule and special "agreement" with other nations. They just have to swear to use the dollar for all their international trade and let us build a military base there, in exchange we protect them.

It's always about money.
 

NoDrama

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Another example of false pretense and the necessity for America's M-I-C to create enemies if it can't just support them directly.
It was so much easier during the Cold War.
I agree, back then we had just one main bad guy to put all of our resources to use against. The USSR.

Today we have Putin, Russia, China, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, ISIS, Islam and all the neighbors if you listen to the news it seems
 

heckler73

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I agree, back then we had just one main bad guy to put all of our resources to use against. The USSR.

Today we have Putin, Russia, China, Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt, ISIS, Islam and all the neighbors if you listen to the news it seems
That is also a good point. Not to be morose or dark, but the economics surrounding such different environments will also have profoundly different effects.
For example, in the Cold War the MIC could use Input-Output Models ala Leontief to efficiently assign capital due to its veritable monopoly in scope.


But with all these lateral deviations, the whole process becomes mired in a confusing competition for those resources. That is, instead of being able to reduce the operations into a simpler, intra-sectoral matrix in a relatively homogeneous "market", it now has to manage an inter-sectoral matrix (matrices?) due to the different fronts of conflict. That's one way for mountains to be made into mole hills.

Then again, what's the goal? To generate business?
And what's their business? And who are the chief stock-holders? (rhetorical questions, no response expected)
 

Dr Kynes

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People who lack an understanding of history are bound to repeat it, case in point, this idiots rant;



..what ever happened to the Romans anyway..?
1) the romans abandoned the republican ideals of their forefathers, thanks to the populist demagoguery of the brothers gracci (the first limousine liberals) and the plebs voted themselves the right to pick another man's pocket to ensure "social justice" and reduce "income disparity" net result: anarchy, which leads to the rise of an empire run by strongman dictator which eventually collapses
Lefty Thought: fucking shit up since 179 BC



WWI... This is exactly what we did.. Result? WW2..
2) ww2 was the direct result of punitive reparations treaties laid on the belligerents, in conjunction with total disinterest in the belligerents rearming themselves in violation of said treaties. the lack of "nationbuilding" had nothing to do with it, nor was wartime looting the problem. germany was still germany, italy was still italy, moslems were still moslems, and the failure to finish the job led to ww2



How can the solution to a problem be "do it twice!"? The fuck kind of solution is that? A goddamn inefficient one that costs tens of millions of lives.

3 ) youre a moron. rome beat carthage once, and figured that settled it. carthage came back, and acted a fool again, and rome demolished the city, leaving no stone standing, put every man to the sword, sowed the feilds with salt, and nobody heard from carthage again for ~700 years.

How about we figure out a solution that doesn't cost tens of millions of lives in the process?

4) you havent been able to come up with such a dreamy solution, and as a SUPRA GENIUS, you are clearly the one who has the inside track, how can lowly mortals such as we solve these problems when even a god like yourself fails to do so? /sarcasm
tens of millions of lives? are you claiming isis and iraq are gonna create ww3 with their antics??



Totally not racist.. Perhaps beyond the sandlandians "incompetence and stupidity" lies the same fortitude as colonial American patriots to be the sole bearer of their own goddamn land? Perhaps..
5 )the evidence speaks for itself: islam has contributed nearly nothing to art, and absolutely nothing to science, technology, agriculture, literature, the human condition, architecture, peace, or any other measure of social advancement. they hyave invented cool shit like bomb vests, rocket attacks on neighborhoods, human sheilds, using the wiling dupes in the international press to blame their own evil on Dem Jews, and fabricating a mythological history out of lies and deceptions to try and lay claim to israel, but thats about it.

You're terribly confused or willfully ignorant (probably this) about what "nation building" means.
6)yeah, sure. i dont know what "nationbuilding" means, and you would explain it to me, but it would be "Outside my realm of understanding" because youre just that smart...


No. The only real way to "create anything that can last in sandland" is to stop meddling in middle eastern affairs and stop supporting Israel when they commit terrorist atrocities like the invasion of Gaza (2014)
9) yeah cuz sandland builds so much on their own, why, if left to their own devices they might rebuild any of the wonders of civilization that they previously destroyed, like the library at alexandria, for example... you still cant figure it out, your "religion of peace" buddies dont want peace, they want to destroy everything that doesnt tie directly into islam, EVERYTHING
anything which is not specifically authorized in the koran is forbidden, anything which contradicts the koran is the work of satan, and anything that differes from the koran in the slightest way is a tool to deceive you and lead you down the false path to apostasy. (also, "invasion of gaza" ha ha ha ha ha ha ha yeah, cuz it was a capricious and unprovoked action against innocent gazans, by those vicious evil jews...)



Western society is built on Christian doctrine, it is just as crazy as Middle Eastern doctrine whether you accept it or not. Because our centuries crazies don't commit terrorism (because they'd never get away with it and keep the numbers up) like they did in the past doesn't make it more palatable. Your bullshit is just as crazy as their bullshit, only less violent at the moment.

10) ORLY????
the greeks and the romans were christians? really? REALLY?
the celts were christians?
the vikings were christians
the bretons too?
the picts?
the gauls?

you better call the history book publishers and fill em in on this shit.


Christians, Jews, Muslims, all equally as crazy and all equally as dangerous to the prosperity of mankind.
demonstrably false, clearly retarded, and patently absurd.
 

Dr Kynes

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I used to buy this line of thinking. Personally I'd like to see ALL American troops pulled out of the mid east, military bases closed, monetary/weapon support ended to all mid east nations (Israel included) and let the sandlandians figure this shit out themselves.

Do I think they're capable of doing so? HELL NO! But that's kinda the point. The consolation prize to them figuring shit out, is them slaughtering one another. My give-a-fuck meter is broken.

As long as the riff-raff isn't brought to our shores, why should we get involved? You can't reason with people that believe 72 sky-virgins is the reward for death by jihad.
everybody talks about the 72 virgins, but what about the 18 smooth young boys with skin like silk and eyes like black pearls?

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schuylaar

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everybody talks about the 72 virgins, but what about the 18 smooth young boys with skin like silk and eyes like black pearls?

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lullllerz..it's NOT like that..your feces typically isn't stored down that far..if it was you'd need to shit 24/7.

no one has anal if they need to take a shit..it would be uncomfortable.

thank god you men have me to set the record straight.

:wall:
 

schuylaar

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also regarding foley..he's in VERY good condition if you've noticed..his physique muscular..he converted this was a scam.

who wants to place a 10-pack on it?
 

NLXSK1

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also regarding foley..he's in VERY good condition if you've noticed..his physique muscular..he converted this was a scam.

who wants to place a 10-pack on it?
The experts say the tape is real. I am going to take their word for it.
 

earnest_voice

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also regarding foley..he's in VERY good condition if you've noticed..his physique muscular..he converted this was a scam.

who wants to place a 10-pack on it?
He might have been Stockholmed or this might be a bluff.

I know US intelligence has confirmed the authenticity of the tape but they also confirmed the authenticity of some of Bin Ladens video recordings that were obvious forgeries...
 

schuylaar

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He might have been Stockholmed or this might be a bluff.

I know US intelligence has confirmed the authenticity of the tape but they also confirmed the authenticity of some of Bin Ladens video recordings that were obvious forgeries...
exactly..

wasn't there something about not believing the US Government all the time?
 

Dr Kynes

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lullllerz..it's NOT like that..your feces typically isn't stored down that far..if it was you'd need to shit 24/7.

no one has anal if they need to take a shit..it would be uncomfortable.

thank god you men have me to set the record straight.

:wall:
thats only true if the "catcher" is a willing partner, and the pitcher gives a rats ass about their comfort, or consent.

i strongly doubt suicide bombers will allow their Bottoms to prepare themselves for being Topped
 

earnest_voice

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exactly..

wasn't there something about not believing the US Government all the time?
This may be one of those times.

DOD announced they green lit an operation to recover Foley in early July. Soldiers got on site to find zero hostages. They said they sent Americas best.

http://www.defense.gov/Releases/Release.aspx?ReleaseID=16895

Pentagon Press Secretary Rear Adm. Kirby provided the following statement:

The United States attempted a rescue operation recently to free a number of American hostages held in Syria by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL). This operation involved air and ground components and was focused on a particular captor network within ISIL. Unfortunately, the mission was not successful because the hostages were not present at the targeted location.

As we have said repeatedly, the United States government is committed to the safety and well-being of its citizens, particularly those suffering in captivity. In this case, we put the best of the United States military in harms' way to try and bring our citizens home.

The United States government uses the full breadth of our military, intelligence and diplomatic capabilities to bring people home whenever we can. The United States will not tolerate the abduction of our people, and will work tirelessly to secure the safety of our citizens and to hold their captors accountable
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It seems kinda strange to announce a failed rescue mission, WHILE, the hostage takers still have western hostages including Yanks.

DOD never announced the failed missions that were launched to find Bin Laden or Bergdahl (and according to DOD there were many which resulted in loss of American life) until AFTER a SUCCESSFUL outcome - Bin Laden dead, Bergdahl traded.

You look at how tight lipped they've been about Benghazi, even though 2 Marines were awarded the Navy Cross.

It just seems strange this info is coming straight from DOD vs the White House, it's usually the later seeking cheap headlines.
 

st0wandgrow

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I don't believe them ever.

I'm right there with ya. What a sad fucking state of affairs.

So George W sucked. Obama sucks. Go back as far as you want. Sucked. The entire Senate/House sucks. Why is this? Are there no well intentioned folks left to run for office? Is it impossible to be a good, honest person and be a politician? Do good people go to Washington only to find that the global power brokers actually run the show and they either play along or else?

I'm absolutely mystified as to how we can trot lying asshole after lying asshole out there.... and there not even be the odd decent person in the mix.
 

kelly4

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I'm right there with ya. What a sad fucking state of affairs.

So George W sucked. Obama sucks. Go back as far as you want. Sucked. The entire Senate/House sucks. Why is this? Are there no well intentioned folks left to run for office? Is it impossible to be a good, honest person and be a politician? Do good people go to Washington only to find that the global power brokers actually run the show and they either play along or else?

I'm absolutely mystified as to how we can trot lying asshole after lying asshole out there.... and there not even be the odd decent person in the mix.
For starters, anyone running for any political office on any level should not be allowed to own stock.
 

NLXSK1

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For starters, anyone running for any political office on any level should not be allowed to own stock.
It wouldnt matter. Obama wrote a book. A supporter can buy 100,000 copies. There are always ways around laws against corruption.

You have to remove the power and give it back to the people for the lure of corruption to be diminished.
 

kelly4

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It wouldnt matter. Obama wrote a book. A supporter can buy 100,000 copies. There are always ways around laws against corruption.

You have to remove the power and give it back to the people for the lure of corruption to be diminished.
It would keep people from drafting legislation that's only being written for personal gain.
 

fr3d12

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It wouldnt matter. Obama wrote a book. A supporter can buy 100,000 copies. There are always ways around laws against corruption.

You have to remove the power and give it back to the people for the lure of corruption to be diminished.
Corruption will always flourish where there's no accountability, I can only speak of the politicians here but that's the way it is.
They develop selective amnesia and their huge pensions are left intact when they resign.
 
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