And then I put some Hotsause in it!

Raeofsun13

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It's not so easy that they cancel one another completely.

Only that if you use Azos on the up-plant as I do too(which I use along with mycos),
you shouldn't then do the typical capillary building type watering in with root excel until 4-5 days after transplant or at least 2 consecutive waterings after transplant.

My understanding is that by allowing the plants to utilize the Azos (nitrogen fixing microbes) before using another beneficial bacteria based root specific product ie Root excel, you're enabling the plant to benefit from each independently from one another.

As most of us who use H&G root excel use it 3-4wks into flowering, if not longer. So we're constantly inoculating the rhizome with the bennybacs from root excel.

It was also my understanding that if one chose not to use Azos because running H&G was crucial to the nutrient regimen, mykos could easily be and should be used in place of Azos, but to also use a Earth Worm Casting tea as EWC contain nitrogen fixing microbes as well but are not specifically the Azoz specific bacteria Azospirillium brasilense.

So to clarify they can be used in the same grow on the same garden just spread out the timing so you get the most bang for your buck.

I see the most benefit from Azoz when using in a fully amended soil upon transplant then I run the H&G roots hard with many varieties of beneficial microbe teas both earth and animal based...
Holly crap batman, I feel like I was reading a foreign language, although the edible probably didn't help before reading, lol. Ok so, basically use it but spread them out in your watering schedule. Thank you so much for that tip!
 

SahTiva

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Garlic, what are you using to brew your bennies? I'm about to start getting into tea. I have heard mixed things about piranha but its also expensive as shit I'd rather just add the missing one to great
white...
 

Pepe le skunk

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Garlic, what are you using to brew your bennies? I'd rather just add the missing one to great white...
Whats missing from great white? Second bacteria? Does bubbling in water with molasses for a day or two kick start the bacteria? Read something about that.
 

garlictrain

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Hey SahTiva!
I use everything from guanos and earth worm castings to blood/bone/oyster shell meals. As well as neem seed meal, humates, and kelps. I typically don't add any beneficial microbes or fungi in the sense of inoculants to the tea itself as the goal is harvesting and inoculating with microbes from the organic sourced raw nutrient, always using EWC as they contain the building blocks for all healthy soil life. Then when you go to inoculate with mykos or plant success you're feeding a range of beneficial microbes, both bacterial and fungal.

I did a "tea-torial" on my outdoor thread here... about 2/3rds down...

https://www.rollitup.org/outdoor-growing/705973-2013-colorado-outdoor-med-garden-2.html



Also I know great white and piranha are really amazing products, but as an industry insider I know that the whole of beneficial mycorhizal strains are across the board produced by only 2 sources. One being Xtreme gardening the other I believe belonging to hydrofarm, with both sources selling their strains to all other companies who produce beneficial microbe products.

Therefor my own experience has been to use the cheapest inoculant (plant success granular, mykos which was actually a strain specifically selected for fruit producing plants ie cannabis) with a root booster of some kind (root excel, green fuse root, too many to name). Then to get biodiversity among microbes I use many sources of organic fertilizers, not all together and based off plants stage of life. Using the EWC as my base for every tea I ensure I am inoculating first and foremost with the beneficial microbes that are the building blocks of all healthy soil life who then breakdown (eat, shit out) the nutrient making it readily available to the rhizosphere.

Also Raeofsun13 your babies are looking good! I love seeing seedlings started out!

An Dankinmybrain that's a beautiful growing plant, can't wait to see some flow scout flower pics!

Happy Medicating All!
 

Hotsause

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I like the way you think Dank. Heres some pics of SQxTW 1st one is day 8 of flowering ill take more pics tomorrow
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Azhden

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Sorry I haven't been around for an update, but just a quicky for now :mrgreen: .

The 2 FSC I planted are both female :shock: I'm so happy. Different flowering properties for sure, one smells like wonderful sugary cookies, it smells sooo damn good (#2 BTW). #1 is similar in smell but has another wonderful funk to it I can't explain :twisted: .

So is anyone growing out "Flurry" yet? I see plenty of Flo Scouts, maybe next grow I will dedicate to a Flurry run :eyesmoke:
 

Raeofsun13

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No flurry here, just some update photos. we are plugging right along, should be able to sex FSC and Ghost x TW in the next week or so. From left to right - SQxTW, FSC and GhostxTW.
 

Azhden

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Well I decided to take some pics last night of the FSC girls... take the SD card out of my camera, put it into my Card Reader... and windows "detected a problem" and decided to format it... long story short, I recovered every pic and movie... but the ones I took last night...

WTF! is all I have to say. Oh well, try again tonight I guess...

#1 dropped the Funk for some reason and is smelling exactly like her sister (it smells sooooo damn sweeeeet and sugary it makes me drool like no other)
 

Hotsause

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I got in and got a better look at both phenos of SQ x TW one smells like Strawberries the other like Cherries. I am so excited for these ladies Took some better pics also 1st is The Strawberry Pheno
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and the Cherry Pheno I believe they are on about week 2
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