Raeofsun13
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Az - nice on the b vitamin, we are definitely gonna that a whirl. We love stuff like this.
And then I put some Hotsause in it!
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I didn't transplant them in the right "order", so FSC #1 is on the right, #2 is left, and I think that's a C99 I just acquired saying Hello up top 
Azhden
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The vitamin B trick is still missing "Hormones and stimulants" that Superthrive actually has, I found adding some Kelp/Seaweed tea to the mix makes a "True Home Made" version of Superthrive. I should just call it a "Root Stimulant/Transplant Shock" additive, and only call it the Superthrive mix if adding the hormones 
420circuit
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That would be a good thing to post on the Nutrients thread, a formula for Super Thrive. I was using it, a couple $10 bottles, but wasn't able to identify it as helping the plants and after stopping they look the same. But I wasn't using for transplant, just an additive in hydro.The vitamin B trick is still missing "Hormones and stimulants" that Superthrive actually has, I found adding some Kelp/Seaweed tea to the mix makes a "True Home Made" version of Superthrive. I should just call it a "Root Stimulant/Transplant Shock" additive, and only call it the Superthrive mix if adding the hormones
looking like each other more and more every day 
Hotsause
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Looks good Azhden. I was looking at my girls today to see if they are showing sex but i cannot tell yet so I took some close ups. The leafs look identical to the male plant used to seed them super serrated and they both smell like Space Queen when rubbing the stem.
Queen Of Time 1
Queen Of Time 2
QOT 3
Queen Of Time 1
Queen Of Time 2
QOT 3
slowandsteady
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just got a surprise in the mail ordered 2 sep and got it today 6 sept, 4 freaking days to Midwest. Mad props to the crew at BB. So stoked. oh and NO GREEN TAPE!!
Raeofsun13
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Hii, been a little while since we posted an update on our SauseFactory Seeds, so here are some updated shots. All seeds popped, the SQ x TW was the slowest and looks like a runt right now.
#1. SQ x TW - she is a runt and taking her time, still!
#2. Tops shots from left to right is FSC, SQ x TW and then Ghost x TW
#3. FSC, SQ x TW, Ghost x TW
#1 Ghost x TW
#2 FSC
I might have these two pictures mixed up.
Pepe le skunk
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Looking good azhden. Hoping the sauce genetics turn out.
Raeofsun13
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Bump- amazing what 5 days can do and a little tlc. Their tlc was their first nuting, which made me feel like a nervous mom! Obviously they love them some nutes!
Nutes - General Hydro Flora Duo Part A & B, Calimag, Rapid Rooter, Diamond Nectar, Floralicious Plus and Flora Blend. PPM - 441
Nutes - General Hydro Flora Duo Part A & B, Calimag, Rapid Rooter, Diamond Nectar, Floralicious Plus and Flora Blend. PPM - 441
Hotsause
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Nice Rae that Ghost x Tw is taking off nicely. I transplanted 2 Sq x Tw they seem to be females from what i can scope in on. My 1 Cherry Wreck was a male and got the chop Both Star Hoes are looking like males but if they are i will back cross them to Star Dawg for some seeds
Anyway heres the SQ x TW
Anyway heres the SQ x TW
DankInMyBrain
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FloScoutCooks
This is gonna be interesting
Raeofsun13
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Hello just an update on our three seedling from SauseFactory Seeds, they are starting to really grow. From left to right -
1. Space Queen x Timewreck
2. Flo x Girl Scout Cookies
3. Ghost OG x Timewreck
as soon as we have room in our veg tent they will be moved into more spacious pots.
Last feeding the got a round of A root stim, super thrive, Calimag, great white and Azos. After that FSC and GOTW shot up.
garlictrain
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SauceFactory seeds sound amazing. Some very good strains represented here, great job!
Hey Raeofsun13 looking like a healthy start, I am curious what roots stim you use?
If using H&G root excell (what I use), it is counterproductive to run Xtreme Azos (I also use), as H&G roots helps the plant produce hormone A, while Azoz produces hormone B. I learned this after watching a skilled grower dump 2 litres of roots excell ($350-400 in root stim) on 50 lights of soil that had been top dressed quite liberally with Azoz. Yield was fine for 4 plants/k commercial med but after harvest we were pulling the roots recycling our soil and there was hardly any root development!
A correspondence with Xtreme Gardening led to that hot tip...
Hey Raeofsun13 looking like a healthy start, I am curious what roots stim you use?
If using H&G root excell (what I use), it is counterproductive to run Xtreme Azos (I also use), as H&G roots helps the plant produce hormone A, while Azoz produces hormone B. I learned this after watching a skilled grower dump 2 litres of roots excell ($350-400 in root stim) on 50 lights of soil that had been top dressed quite liberally with Azoz. Yield was fine for 4 plants/k commercial med but after harvest we were pulling the roots recycling our soil and there was hardly any root development!
A correspondence with Xtreme Gardening led to that hot tip...
Raeofsun13
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hmm interesting, so we use either GH Rapid Roots or Roots Excelerator. So does that mean they cross each other off, hormone a and b? So when do you use Azos? We typically use it when we pot up sprinkled on the soil where the rootball will sit, Sometimes, I have used it as a top dressing as well.
garlictrain
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It's not so easy that they cancel one another completely.
Only that if you use Azos on the up-plant as I do too(which I use along with mycos),
you shouldn't then do the typical capillary building type watering in with root excel until 4-5 days after transplant or at least 2 consecutive waterings after transplant.
My understanding is that by allowing the plants to utilize the Azos (nitrogen fixing microbes) before using another beneficial bacteria based root specific product ie Root excel, you're enabling the plant to benefit from each independently from one another.
As most of us who use H&G root excel use it 3-4wks into flowering, if not longer. So we're constantly inoculating the rhizome with the bennybacs from root excel.
It was also my understanding that if one chose not to use Azos because running H&G was crucial to the nutrient regimen, mykos could easily be and should be used in place of Azos, but to also use a Earth Worm Casting tea as EWC contain nitrogen fixing microbes as well but are not specifically the Azoz specific bacteria Azospirillium brasilense.
So to clarify they can be used in the same grow on the same garden just spread out the timing so you get the most bang for your buck.
I see the most benefit from Azoz when using in a fully amended soil upon transplant then I run the H&G roots hard with many varieties of beneficial microbe teas both earth and animal based...
Only that if you use Azos on the up-plant as I do too(which I use along with mycos),
you shouldn't then do the typical capillary building type watering in with root excel until 4-5 days after transplant or at least 2 consecutive waterings after transplant.
My understanding is that by allowing the plants to utilize the Azos (nitrogen fixing microbes) before using another beneficial bacteria based root specific product ie Root excel, you're enabling the plant to benefit from each independently from one another.
As most of us who use H&G root excel use it 3-4wks into flowering, if not longer. So we're constantly inoculating the rhizome with the bennybacs from root excel.
It was also my understanding that if one chose not to use Azos because running H&G was crucial to the nutrient regimen, mykos could easily be and should be used in place of Azos, but to also use a Earth Worm Casting tea as EWC contain nitrogen fixing microbes as well but are not specifically the Azoz specific bacteria Azospirillium brasilense.
So to clarify they can be used in the same grow on the same garden just spread out the timing so you get the most bang for your buck.
I see the most benefit from Azoz when using in a fully amended soil upon transplant then I run the H&G roots hard with many varieties of beneficial microbe teas both earth and animal based...
Csufan97
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Thanks man I believe you just save us some money on that tip not to mention some positive bud growth.